The Lamb of God

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 13 2007,23:19)

Hi not3, You too want to make Jesus a combination god/man? He is a MAN. Simple.

My brother, it is not that simple. Nothing about Jesus was simple.

Peter said that Jesus was the man from Nazareth. Peter also said that Jesus was the Son of the Living God. Peter believed that Jesus had come from God. These are not my words but paraphrased scripture, as we both know.

Do you think that Peter believed Jesus was simply a Man?

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Yes.
His origins are entirely another matter.

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,07:40)

Hi not3, Yes. His origins are entirely another matter.

So you say. I do not believe you can know someone without knowing where they have come from.

But here we have agreed to disagree.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Peter recognised who Jesus was by the Spirit at work in him and that is why Jesus was so excited. Peter was the first stone ready to be placed alongside the foundation stone in the new building of God. He realised this because he now had eyes of the Spirit. The Son of God , who had been with God and was spoken of in Ps 2 and Prov 30 etc, had come from heaven as the promised Messiah.

But this same enlightened stone still called Jesus a MAN in Acts 3.

[Not3in1]

Hmmmm

A preexistent son who had “come from heaven” as such, cannot be merely a MAN.

I believe that both of our theories are flawed to some degree.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Scripture says he is a man and we should not argue with scripture.
Acts 2[not3]
22Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,08:08)

Hi not3, Scripture says he is a man and we should not argue with scripture. Acts 2[not3] 22Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Scripture also tells us that Jesus was “conceived” by the Holy Spirit.

We should not change what scripture says to suit our personal theologies.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Do you think conception by the Spoirit did not produce a normal man?
You have been trying to conserve the true meaning of conception and now you blow it away.

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,11:48)

Hi not3, Do you think conception by the Spoirit did not produce a normal man? You have been trying to conserve the true meaning of conception and now you blow it away.

Nick, seriously, do you believe that a “true” conception involving GOD ALMIGHTY would “produce” a mere man?

You say that you believe in a true conception, but if you did you would have to agree that Jesus cannot be a mere man; it is an impossibility!

Man/Women = Man

God/Women = Divine Man

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
My opinion is irrelevant.
Scripture repeatedly calls Jesus a man.

1Tim 2
“5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
We should believe Scripture

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,15:51)

Hi not3, My opinion is irrelevant. Scripture repeatedly calls Jesus a man. 1Tim 2 “5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; We should believe Scripture

I, for one, enjoy your opinion. Opinions help shape what scripture teaches us (along with God's spirit who teaches us all things).

Scripture calls Jesus a man because he was/is a man. He was male; had skin, hair, eyes, two arms and legs – you get the idea – a real human being!

However, he was also the only human being who could call GOD ALMIGHTY his Daddy.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Hmmm

Lk3
'38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”

Deut 14
“1Ye are the children of the LORD your God: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead. “

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,16:28)

Hi not3, Hmmm Lk3 '38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.” Deut 14 “1Ye are the children of the LORD your God: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead. “

Yes, we are the children of God. We will be adopted. Paul tells us that this is our hope – our adoption into the family.

Jesus does not need to be adopted. Why?

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Adam was truly a son of God, but had no DIVINITY.
The sonship of Jesus goes back to the beginning.

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,16:34)

Hi not3, Adam was truly a son of God, but had no DIVINITY. The sonship of Jesus goes back to the beginning.

Adam was created.

Jesus was BORN of incoruptable SEED.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Do you not mean conceived?

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2007,19:38)

Hi not3, Do you not mean conceived?

Of course one has to be conceived before they are born. I just figured that some things could be implied between you and I – considering our lengthly intercourse on this topic.

[Not3in1]

Is there a difference between Adam and Jesus' relationship to God?

I think so.

Adam will be adopted (along with us).
Jesus already belongs.

What do you think this means? What does it imply?

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Do you think that all men naturally have a spiritual relationship with their father?

[Not3in1]

Please answer my questions and I'll answer yours.

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