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Quote You think that siding with the atheist is reasonable when he calls the God we both believe in imaginary. you think stuart to be lost, i do not.
bd, it seems your culture is afraid of women, tis most the reason why you treat them as you do.
if you are of no sin, then throw the first stone.truly you need to read song of solomon. for if you are awaiting some beautiful woman during your afterlife, then how can you proceed to tell me how a women should be treated here and now, if anyone is imagining anything it is you.
1Co 7:4 the wife over her own body hath not authority, but the husband; and, in like manner also, the husband over his own body hath not authority, but the wife.
Eph 5:28 so ought the husbands to love their own wives as their own bodies: he who is loving his own wife–himself he doth love;
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 19 2010,15:16) You think that siding with the atheist is reasonable when he calls the God we both believe in imaginary.
Interesting comment even though it is not directed at me.I should clear this up for you.
If an athiest says that 1 + 1 =2, then agreeing with his statement is not saying that you are siding with atheism.
Surely we should be no respecter of men and side with the truth no matter who utters it.
Otherwise we become guilty of bias.Quote (princess of the king @ Jan. 19 2010,16:18) Eph 5:28 so ought the husbands to love their own wives as their own bodies: he who is loving his own wife–himself he doth love;
Maybe BD only loves himself half as much?Quote (t8 @ Jan. 19 2010,15:43) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2010,18:13) God forbids you to have sex with a woman during her menstrual cycle in the Holy Bible and guess what go through the whole list and then maybe you will understand that STU is speaking about your LORD GOD.
BD, I think you will find that there is a difference between being unclean (unhygienic) and sick/sin.It is also unclean to not wash your hands before a meal. It is good advice. Ask any doctor. It is not sick to eat with unclean hands, but it can lead to sickness.
Also, I saw this documentary once where this Muslim said to the host of this travel show that one prayer in Mecca is worth 100 000 prayers elsewhere, although I think other cities magnified prayers too, but not to the same degree. Then I read above, what Stu posted and it says:
# Women have rights that are similar to men, but men are “a degree above them.” 2:228
# A woman is worth one-half a man. 2:282This I could agree with this: A prayer from your heart is worth many more times than a prayer from your head.
Putting a number on things like “a man is worth twice that of a woman”, or “a prayer here is magnified 100000 times in this physical location are not the words of God, but man. This is really silly BD. You Should be able to see through such doctrines. You have no excuse for believing this, (if indeed you do).
BD, do you believe all those quotes from Stu?
First of all they are being quoted out of Context which is easy to do.This is the whole verse
2:282 O ye who believe! When ye contract a debt for a fixed term, record it in writing. Let a scribe record it in writing between you in (terms of) equity. No scribe should refuse to write as Allah hath taught him, so let him write, and let him who incurreth the debt dictate, and let him observe his duty to Allah his Lord, and diminish naught thereof. But if he who oweth the debt is of low understanding, or weak, or unable himself to dictate, then let the guardian of his interests dictate in (terms of) equity. And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not (at hand) then a man and two women, of such as ye approve as witnesses, so that if the one erreth (through forgetfulness) the other will remember. And the witnesses must not refuse when they are summoned. Be not averse to writing down (the contract) whether it be small or great, with (record of) the term thereof. That is more equitable in the sight of Allah and more sure for testimony, and the best way of avoiding doubt between you; save only in the case when it is actual merchandise which ye transfer among yourselves from hand to hand. In that case it is no sin for you if ye write it not. And have witnesses when ye sell one to another, and let no harm be done to scribe or witness. If ye do (harm to them) lo! it is a sin in you. Observe your duty to Allah. Allah is teaching you. And Allah is knower of all things.
Now, of course the Bible backs this postion up. It is even said in the Bible that a woman should not speak at all in church so if the man is the head then they are the head brother. To deny anything in the Quran you will find yourself denying the Bible
The other verse was also taken out of context
2:228 Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart, three (monthly) courses. And it is not lawful for them that they should conceal that which Allah hath created in their wombs if they are believers in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands would do better to take them back in that case if they desire a reconciliation. And they (women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them. Allah is Mighty, Wise.
Now is Man the head of woman or not Brother? The Bible says the same thing.
The menstrual cycle is not just unclean it is also uncomfortable to a woman most of the time should a man not be merciful to his wife in kindness and love her while her body cleanses itself.
The Bible says about menstruation:
And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even.
Leviticus 15:18-202:222 They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say: It is an illness, so let women alone at such times and go not in unto them till they are cleansed. And when they have purified themselves, then go in unto them as Allah hath enjoined upon you. Truly Allah loveth those who turn unto Him, and loveth those who have a care for cleanness.
Now to say it is an illness it to mean it is uncomfortable to them, Women get cramps, some get bad headaches, they will often tell you that they don't feel well. Many men ignorant of this get angry and disrespectful because they don't understand the change of mood and the tiredness.
The Bible and the Quran agree on this, Now when the children of Israel were in a less hygenic environment so it was best for them to sleep apart from their husbands during this time, Those in the Quran were in a better environment and people today are in a better environment but still mestrual cycles are the same and men should not violate God's law. Menstrual cycles are for cleansing, having sex at that time is unlawful and plain nasty. Unclean indeed.
And finally regarding Prayer, the Quran says:
We see the turning of thy face (for guidance to the heavens: now Shall We turn thee to a Qibla that shall please thee. Turn then Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque: Wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction. The people of the Book know well that that is the truth from their Lord. Nor is Allah unmindful of what they do.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #144)The Jews for instance pray towards Jerusalem but ALLAH makes it clear:
To Allah belong the east and the West: Whithersoever ye turn, there is the presence of Allah. For Allah is all-Pervading, all-Knowing.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #115)Brother keep in mind that an Atheist does not believe in God no when they have that disease they do not believe in any evidence of God.
and wha I mean is literal thay have a DIS-EASE with GOD or any evidence of God.
Quote (princess of the king @ Jan. 19 2010,16:18) Quote You think that siding with the atheist is reasonable when he calls the God we both believe in imaginary. you think stuart to be lost, i do not.
bd, it seems your culture is afraid of women, tis most the reason why you treat them as you do.
if you are of no sin, then throw the first stone.truly you need to read song of solomon. for if you are awaiting some beautiful woman during your afterlife, then how can you proceed to tell me how a women should be treated here and now, if anyone is imagining anything it is you.
1Co 7:4 the wife over her own body hath not authority, but the husband; and, in like manner also, the husband over his own body hath not authority, but the wife.
Eph 5:28 so ought the husbands to love their own wives as their own bodies: he who is loving his own wife–himself he doth love;
First of all STU is lost if he is not then why talk to him about God at all? I'm sure he feels there are better things to talk about to him, you only imagine God, So is STU now more real than God?PoK,
Who said we should not love our wives of course we must love our wives that are a gift and mercy from God. Is the Man head of the woman or not? The Bible says he is
The Believers, men and women, are protectors one of another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil: they observe regular prayers, practise regular charity, and obey Allah and His Messenger. On them will Allah pour His mercy: for Allah is Exalted in power, Wise.
( سورة التوبة , At-Taubah, Chapter #9, Verse #71for those who make false claims against women:
And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors;-
( سورة النور , An-Noor, Chapter #24, Verse #4)Those who slander chaste women, indiscreet but believing, are cursed in this life and in the Hereafter: for them is a grievous Penalty,-
( سورة النور , An-Noor, Chapter #24, Verse #23)Are there any such verses in the Bible specific to protecting women from false charges. the truth is:
people! be careful of (your duty to) your Lord, Who created you from a single being and created its mate of the same (kind) and spread from these two, many men and women; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah, by Whom you demand one of another (your rights), and (to) the ties of relationship; surely Allah ever watches over you.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #1)The Bible is in agreement, there is no need to agree with an unbeliever to comfort him, he must be told the truth that he will face the same Lord that you and I will face. But if you comfort him will you really do so in derogation of your LORD?
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 19 2010,18:32) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 19 2010,15:16) You think that siding with the atheist is reasonable when he calls the God we both believe in imaginary.
Interesting comment even though it is not directed at me.I should clear this up for you.
If an athiest says that 1 + 1 =2, then agreeing with his statement is not saying that you are siding with atheism.
Surely we should be no respecter of men and side with the truth no matter who utters it.
Otherwise we become guilty of bias.
Which is more true 1+1=2 or God is Real?My point here is when an Atheist is discussing God he has already commited to 1+1 doesn't equal 2 in reference to God.
Now why would I side in a discussion on mathematics with someone who does not have the most basic understanding, it could even be harmful to them. So, that first understanding has to be what is worked on.
If I truly care about conveying the message God wants us to convey what good would it be if I gave STU the whole world? Understand?
But STU has read or reads the Bible and when he doesn't agree with it he comes here or somewhere else and plainly states “your God is Brutal, He is evil, He is sexist, He is a child killer, He hates homosexuals, He is a monster, He is Imaginary and if he wasn't I find Him unworthy of Worship”
And the responses he generally gets is, “No STU God is not like that at all, he didn't kill children, he didn't command stoning or that was in the Old Testament, or some other statement that denies the very validty and integrity of your belief, “don't worry STU God there is no Hell”
When you don't speak the truth to confort someone you may believe that you are slowly converting them but it could be the other way around, they are really softening you up to sin.
Did the serpent say to eve don't believe in God? No, He simply softened her up to Sin and she acted on her own.
You guys love STU so much you cast him out and enforced his belief that he is an unbeliever then generally left him there to catch any conversation that would come by and when anyone felt like slumming they would go and talk to him. The funny thing is when I first came to the site STU was one of the first people I approached but when I started posting in the other sections I thought STU wouldn't post those places by choice I didn't know he could not post in what you now call the “Believers section”
I wish I had known that because I could have spoken more to him over the months, but who is really showing him love here anyway? All the members should be posting madly to convey the message of God but they are not but I am not ashamed of the Gospel of God, I'm not trying to make him comfortable in his denial of God but you guys apologize way too much
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 19 2010,15:43) BD, I think you will find that there is a difference between being unclean (unhygienic) and sick/sin.
And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.
Leviticus 20:17-19This particular word you use as sickness, actually means:
A) faint,
B) weak
C) unwell
D) menstruousI think given the context it is pretty obvious which one.
Sickness is synonymous with illness, disease, injury, etc.
Also, back in King James's day, words had different meanings. You have to watch out for that.
The word “awful” use to mean awe inspiring. Awe + full.
Artificial meant Artful.Some things just got more negative over time.
And just to prove my point, the word “sick” to usually younger folk can mean something good or cool. So in this case it is becoming more positive.
Reminds me of that scripture that says “woe to those who say good is evil and evil is good”. It is the nature of man to twist words to his desired meaning I suppose.
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 20 2010,20:08) This particular word you use as sickness, actually means: A) faint,
B) weak
C) unwell
D) menstruousI think given the context it is pretty obvious which one.
Sickness is synonymous with illness, disease, injury, etc.
Also, back in King James's day, words had different meanings. You have to watch out for that.
The word “awful” use to mean awe inspiring. Awe + full.
Artificial meant Artful.Some things just got more negative over time.
And just to prove my point, the word “sick” to usually younger folk can mean something good or cool. So in this case it is becoming more positive.
Reminds me of that scripture that says “woe to those who say good is evil and evil is good”. It is the nature of man to twist words to his desired meaning I suppose.
Isn't that what I previously said?Why is it when I show you the scriptures of the Bible you seem to relax meanings and intent, when you have just critisized the Quran for the very same thing?
Don't try to protect your statements T8, protect the truth.
The Quran and The Bible agree 100% on menstruation and everything else I wrote to you.
We must never be deceptive in these matters if the Bible says God is a God of War you cannot just dismiss it and then point to the Quran and say “look it says Allah supports war” isn't that insincere?
The Bible says God hates homosexuality and The Quran says that it is an abomination you cannot just say that that is just the Quran.
God “hates” T8, Good is not the same as Evil
Zechariah 8:17 (King James Version)
17And let none of you imagine evil in your hearts against his neighbour; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the LORD.
41:34 The good deed and the evil deed are not alike. Repel the evil deed with one which is better, then lo! he, between whom and thee there was enmity (will become) as though he was a bosom friend.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 19 2010,22:04) # A woman is worth one-half a man. 2:282 Keep this in mind.
Quote First of all they are being quoted out of Context which is easy to do. This is the whole verse
2:282 O ye who believe! When ye contract a debt for a fixed term, record it in writing. Let a scribe record it in writing between you in (terms of) equity. No scribe should refuse to write as Allah hath taught him, so let him write, and let him who incurreth the debt dictate, and let him observe his duty to Allah his Lord, and diminish naught thereof. But if he who oweth the debt is of low understanding, or weak, or unable himself to dictate, then let the guardian of his interests dictate in (terms of) equity. And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not (at hand) then a man and two women, of such as ye approve as witnesses, so that if the one erreth (through forgetfulness) the other will remember. And the witnesses must not refuse when they are summoned. Be not averse to writing down (the contract) whether it be small or great, with (record of) the term thereof. That is more equitable in the sight of Allah and more sure for testimony, and the best way of avoiding doubt between you; save only in the case when it is actual merchandise which ye transfer among yourselves from hand to hand. In that case it is no sin for you if ye write it not. And have witnesses when ye sell one to another, and let no harm be done to scribe or witness. If ye do (harm to them) lo! it is a sin in you. Observe your duty to Allah. Allah is teaching you. And Allah is knower of all things.
Stu supplied a statement that a woman is worth half of a man. According to the verse you provided, that is indeed the case. It says that if two men are not available, then there can be one man and two women. So the plain fact is that, according to this verse, it takes two women to equal one man. A little algebra2W = M
W = M/2
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 20 2010,10:01) Quote (princess of the king @ Jan. 19 2010,16:18) Eph 5:28 so ought the husbands to love their own wives as their own bodies: he who is loving his own wife–himself he doth love;
Maybe BD only loves himself half as much?
good question t8.Quote 2:222 They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say: It is an illness, so let women alone at such times and go not in unto them till they are cleansed. And when they have purified themselves, then go in unto them as Allah hath enjoined upon you. Truly Allah loveth those who turn unto Him, and loveth those who have a care for cleanness. the cycle of a women is natural (in most) how can you consider it an illness/sickness.
Quote And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.
Leviticus 20:17-19would you not think that you would know this if she were your wife, a wife would not hide this from her husband, or is this just a universal statement of any women you lay with? not just your wife.
so pre martial relations are allowed in your belief, for man has his needs and they must be meet?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 19 2010,15:16) Quote What is the penalty for adultery in the bible? something about throwing the first stone who have not sinned.
Quote Isn't it true that in the Bible it says a woman should not even speak in church? praise and worship is speaking, no one takes my joy.
Quote In the Bible it says that a man can have as much sex with his wife as he wants, isn't that right? as can the wife.
Quote Jesus said if a woman is unfaithful her Husband may put her away, is this right? as can the wife
Quote You think that siding with the atheist is reasonable when he calls the God we both believe in imaginary. don't try to place me under condemnation, bd.
Quote In The Bible it says that the Man is the Head of the woman, isn't that right? yes, man is the head of women, a true wife is the neck.
Quote There was a time where God commanded stoning for many offenses in the Bible you however, have not come out of this time. have you?
Quote The Bible is in agreement, there is no need to agree with an unbeliever to comfort him, he must be told the truth that he will face the same Lord that you and I will face. But if you comfort him will you really do so in derogation of your LORD? comfort stuart, i would love to wrap my arms around him and let him know how much he is really loved, that his is no accident, that he did not evolve from an animal, he is the head and not the tail.
Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 20 2010,22:21) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 19 2010,22:04) # A woman is worth one-half a man. 2:282 Keep this in mind.
Quote First of all they are being quoted out of Context which is easy to do. This is the whole verse
2:282 O ye who believe! When ye contract a debt for a fixed term, record it in writing. Let a scribe record it in writing between you in (terms of) equity. No scribe should refuse to write as Allah hath taught him, so let him write, and let him who incurreth the debt dictate, and let him observe his duty to Allah his Lord, and diminish naught thereof. But if he who oweth the debt is of low understanding, or weak, or unable himself to dictate, then let the guardian of his interests dictate in (terms of) equity. And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not (at hand) then a man and two women, of such as ye approve as witnesses, so that if the one erreth (through forgetfulness) the other will remember. And the witnesses must not refuse when they are summoned. Be not averse to writing down (the contract) whether it be small or great, with (record of) the term thereof. That is more equitable in the sight of Allah and more sure for testimony, and the best way of avoiding doubt between you; save only in the case when it is actual merchandise which ye transfer among yourselves from hand to hand. In that case it is no sin for you if ye write it not. And have witnesses when ye sell one to another, and let no harm be done to scribe or witness. If ye do (harm to them) lo! it is a sin in you. Observe your duty to Allah. Allah is teaching you. And Allah is knower of all things.
Stu supplied a statement that a woman is worth half of a man. According to the verse you provided, that is indeed the case. It says that if two men are not available, then there can be one man and two women. So the plain fact is that, according to this verse, it takes two women to equal one man. A little algebra2W = M
W = M/2
Actually STU and yourself used the term “Worth” and put a value on it.There could be other reasons why 2 woman would be needed absent another man. For instance a women has children and has many other things to do where she might not remember as well. So two women could certainly help each other remember more.
A man who is a business person would certainly remember business details better.
We know that especially in those days where everything was done by hand the women of that time was much more busy with her children and family, while the man was much more involved in trading and heavier tasks.
So I ask you if you were going over an important contract and there need to be at least more than one witness to make it valid would you have two people who were well versed in contracts or if two were not available would you take one well versed and another not as understanding in these matters or would you rather have one who fully understands and two who can help each other understand fully as well?
Quote (princess of the king @ Jan. 21 2010,03:01) Quote 2:222 They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say: It is an illness, so let women alone at such times and go not in unto them till they are cleansed. And when they have purified themselves, then go in unto them as Allah hath enjoined upon you. Truly Allah loveth those who turn unto Him, and loveth those who have a care for cleanness. the cycle of a women is natural (in most) how can you consider it an illness/sickness.
Quote And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.
Leviticus 20:17-19would you not think that you would know this if she were your wife, a wife would not hide this from her husband, or is this just a universal statement of any women you lay with? not just your wife.
so pre martial relations are allowed in your belief, for man has his needs and they must be meet?
Most women I know don't feel very comfortable around the time of their period, Bloating, pressure, water retention, cramps and blood loss making some very tired, hormone changes and if you don't have pads or tampons and live in the desert it could really be messy.That doesn't sound like fun. I love and respect women and during the time of their period they are also extra sensitive so I don't ignore them when they report the symptoms above I act with love and compassion.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 20 2010,15:07) Actually STU and yourself used the term “Worth” and put a value on it. There could be other reasons why 2 woman would be needed absent another man. For instance a women has children and has many other things to do where she might not remember as well. So two women could certainly help each other remember more.
A man who is a business person would certainly remember business details better.
We know that especially in those days where everything was done by hand the women of that time was much more busy with her children and family, while the man was much more involved in trading and heavier tasks.
So I ask you if you were going over an important contract and there need to be at least more than one witness to make it valid would you have two people who were well versed in contracts or if two were not available would you take one well versed and another not as understanding in these matters or would you rather have one who fully understands and two who can help each other understand fully as well?
That has got to be the lamest apologetics I have seen in some time now.A woman might have children so she can't remember as much? What in the world?
Face it: the Koran is basically saying that the testimony of one man is more reliable than one woman, so you must have two woman instead. It is basically saying either women are scheming or just stupid. Whatever the case, it holds a man to be superior to a woman.
Pretty common of the male-centered Abrahamic faiths.
Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 21 2010,12:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 20 2010,15:07) Actually STU and yourself used the term “Worth” and put a value on it. There could be other reasons why 2 woman would be needed absent another man. For instance a women has children and has many other things to do where she might not remember as well. So two women could certainly help each other remember more.
A man who is a business person would certainly remember business details better.
We know that especially in those days where everything was done by hand the women of that time was much more busy with her children and family, while the man was much more involved in trading and heavier tasks.
So I ask you if you were going over an important contract and there need to be at least more than one witness to make it valid would you have two people who were well versed in contracts or if two were not available would you take one well versed and another not as understanding in these matters or would you rather have one who fully understands and two who can help each other understand fully as well?
That has got to be the lamest apologetics I have seen in some time now.A woman might have children so she can't remember as much? What in the world?
Face it: the Koran is basically saying that the testimony of one man is more reliable than one woman, so you must have two woman instead. It is basically saying either women are scheming or just stupid. Whatever the case, it holds a man to be superior to a woman.
Pretty common of the male-centered Abrahamic faiths.
A women puts it this way:Ladies, we have it a bit tougher than men in one respect in public speaking. We are more likely to forget what we were saying or where we are in our presentations because we are women. This is not a slight; this is reality. As multi-taskers, we have so much more on our minds than men that often, especially once we are solidly in the middle years of our lives, we lose our train of thought while delivering a presentation.
In having this ability to multi-task, we women sacrifice in the memory department. Yes, I am generalizing but it is true in most cases. Men have this uncanny ability to focus on one thing at a time (which is probably why they don't listen as well as we would like). If their minds are on a different topic, then trying to explain to them what is on your mind can prove fruitless. Were we like men in that respect, very little would be accomplished in the home and/or at work.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-Wo….2760596
It is you that seem to be thinking negative about women. A positive trait can not be suitable in some cases.
Multitasking Hurts Learning
Distractions Alter the Brain's Learning Processes
By Miranda Hitti
WebMD Health NewsReviewed by Louise Chang, MDJuly 26, 2006 — Multitasking may make you more productive, but it also makes it harder for your brain to learn, according to a new study.Researchers found people had a harder time learning new things when their brains were distracted by something else, like talking or listening to music.
“When distractions force you to pay less attention to what you are doing, you don't learn as well as if you had paid full attention,” says researcher Russell Poldrack, PhD, and UCLA associate professor of psychology, in a news release. “Even if you learn while multitasking, that learning is less flexible and more specialized so you cannot retrieve the information as easily.”
Women suffer from memory loss after childbirth
February 5, 2008 by Deborah RobinsonIf you want to compete in a man’s world, you better not have a baby. The Science Faculty of the University of New South Wales says they can prove women experience significant deficits in memory for a year or more after childbirth. Apparently this memory deficit significantly impairs the ability of mothers to perform complex and multiple tasks. Not only is this research just another example of the scientific community’s obsession with studying female reproduction and it’s link to all things wrong with the world, it could be potentially damaging to the status of women in the workplace.
“The memory deficits many women experience during and after pregnancy are pretty much like the modest deficits you’d find when comparing healthy 20-year-olds with healthy 60-year-olds,” says Dr Julie Henry, a psychology researcher at the University of New South Wales, who conducted the study with Associate Professor Peter Rendell, of the Australian Catholic University.
In the first investigation of its kind, the researchers conducted a meta-analysis of the results of 14 different research studies around the world since 1990 where the memory performances of more than 1,000 pregnant women, mothers and healthy non-pregnant females had been compared. They found that pregnant women are significantly impaired on some, but not all, measures of memory and that they experience most difficulty with tasks that rely on “executive cognitive control” that is, memory tasks where novelty or significant effort is involved.
“Regular, well-practised memory tasks – such as remembering phone numbers of friends and family members – are unlikely to be affected,” says Associate Professor Rendell. “It’s a different story, though, when you have to remember new phone numbers, people’s names or hold in mind several different pieces of information, such as when multi-tasking .” There you have it folks, all the employers who have fired or demoted a woman after she had a baby can now say ’I told you so’.
Researchers say the results indicate that the impairment — dubbed “baby brain” – is still evident a year after childbirth. Since none of the studies has extended beyond that time, it is not known how long the deficit continues. Hmmm. Does this mean we can assume that childbirth is responsible for women’s inability to compete with men in the workplace?
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