The koran on women

[bodhitharta]

Quote (theodorej @ July 10 2010,22:22)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 10 2010,04:02) Quote (theodorej @ July 10 2010,01:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 05 2010,13:55) Quote (Stu @ July 05 2010,08:49) If that is not evidence of someone trying to run a cult then I don't know what is. Stuart What is a cult? Greetings B….Just as we are struggling with the meaning what IS…IS….so goes the debate of what constitutes a cult.I would think that most our modern day religions would fit the definition…We must not forget that religion is not of God but a creation of man…The majority of todays so called religions are based on Ideology more so than devine inspiration… So a cult is simply a culture of practicing a certain ideology whether divinely unspired or philosophically deduced from religion. The point is the word “cult” is a loaded word in general society and STU once again misunderstood that he is often the victim of preconceived notions Greetings B …..We are all victims of preconceived notions and most times  based on bad education….There was a time when we thought the earth was flat and that sun revolved around the earth….Cultist focus on a leader and do not question or attempt to qualify any infomation or teachings of that leader they exihibit blind faith…

I respectfully disagree as it would depend if that is the culture of the group, for instance if it is a group of libertarians the culture may be one of individual rights with no one being a top leader. surely likewise those who practice anarchy have no one in control.

[theodorej]

Greetings B….The anachist by definition is one who is bent on destruction through violence and vandalism….this is their Ideology(their Ideals,their Goals)….The Ideology that is embraced by the group is the common thread that constitutes a leader and most anachists have leaders that choose anonimity because of the nature of their goals which is foster anacrhy…( the destruction of a civilized society or the over throw of a government or ruling body)

[bodhitharta]

Quote (theodorej @ July 11 2010,01:24)

Greetings B….The anachist by definition is one who is bent on destruction through violence and vandalism….this is their Ideology(their Ideals,their Goals)….The Ideology that is embraced by the group is the common thread that constitutes a leader and most anachists have leaders that choose anonimity because of the nature of their goals which is foster anacrhy…( the destruction of a civilized society or the over throw of a government or ruling body)

Agreed and that is my whole point it is their culture and on the other hand Quakers have a different culture. When we use the word “cult” today it is loaded with a presumption of evil and that is a false view of the true meaning of the word.

[bodhitharta]

The first disciples practiced what we would call today “Communism” because it was their Culture.

And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
Acts 2:43-45

And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
Acts 4:31-33

Today in America “Communism” is a loaded word that conjures up all sorts of evil images but the fact is it can be a very beautiful word as well.

[theodorej]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2010,02:16)

The first disciples practiced what we would call today “Communism” because it was their Culture. And all that believed were together, and had all things common; Acts 2:43-45 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. Acts 4:31-33 Today in America “Communism” is a loaded word that conjures up all sorts of evil images but the fact is it can be a very beautiful word as well.

Greetings B…..When the Acts of the Apostles are read and quoted we must realize that the majority of the apostles were jews who rejected their culture and saw fit to follow the teachings of Jesus….It was the interlectual vandals of the council at Nicea(anarchists)that have sown the deceit and confusion we live with today…..

[theodorej]

Greetings B….Communism is a cult philosophy that is not in keeping with God or his law….A country such as America has forgotten the blessings that have been bestowed upon her….Gods plan is for every body to prosper and he said that the poor will always be with us,this suggests that those who are blessed should share…We are embracing a form of communism because we are lazy and want the government to supply our every need….and at the same time rejecting God and his statutes….

[bodhitharta]

Quote (theodorej @ July 11 2010,02:50)

Greetings B….Communism is a cult philosophy that is not in keeping with God or his law….A country such as America has forgotten the blessings that have been bestowed upon her….Gods plan is for every body to prosper and he said that the poor will always be with us,this suggests that those who are blessed should share…We are embracing a form of communism because we are lazy and want the government to supply our every need….and at the same time rejecting God and his statutes….

Communism is what the disciples practiced if you get over the loaded word it simply means COMMUNITY.

They yook it very seriously even to the point of some dying such as those who tried to hold back their land and dropped dead for doing so

[theodorej]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2010,05:37)

Quote (theodorej @ July 11 2010,02:50) Greetings B….Communism is a cult philosophy that is not in keeping with God or his law….A country such as America has forgotten the blessings that have been bestowed upon her….Gods plan is for every body to prosper and he said that the poor will always be with us,this suggests that those who are blessed should share…We are embracing a form of communism because we are lazy and want the government to supply our every need….and at the same time rejecting God and his statutes…. Communism is what the disciples practiced if you get over the loaded word it simply means COMMUNITY. They yook it very seriously even to the point of some dying such as those who tried to hold back their land and dropped dead for doing so

Greetings B….. COM (community) U (individual) Nism (belief system) people living in community with one belief ..and that belief is that there are no individual rights only those delegated by the powers to be ( the State )….The state declares that religion is an enemy in principle because it aspouses a higher authority….The state insures its existance by taking the fruits of the productive and distributing them to the none productive…eventually no one is productive…communism is a recipe for totalatarian control and by virtue of its bankrupt philosophy it fosters anarchy..
Carl Marx was an embittered old Jew suffering from siphyless who was to lazy to take advantage of an industrial revolution that was centered in England at the time…

[bodhitharta]

Quote (theodorej @ July 12 2010,01:22)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2010,05:37) Quote (theodorej @ July 11 2010,02:50) Greetings B….Communism is a cult philosophy that is not in keeping with God or his law….A country such as America has forgotten the blessings that have been bestowed upon her….Gods plan is for every body to prosper and he said that the poor will always be with us,this suggests that those who are blessed should share…We are embracing a form of communism because we are lazy and want the government to supply our every need….and at the same time rejecting God and his statutes…. Communism is what the disciples practiced if you get over the loaded word it simply means COMMUNITY. They yook it very seriously even to the point of some dying such as those who tried to hold back their land and dropped dead for doing so Greetings B….. COM (community) U (individual) Nism (belief system) people living in community with one belief ..and that belief is that there are no individual rights only those delegated by the powers to be ( the State )….The state declares that religion is an enemy in principle because it aspouses a higher authority….The state insures its existance by taking the fruits of the productive and distributing them to the none productive…eventually no one is productive…communism is a recipe for totalatarian control and by virtue of its bankrupt philosophy it fosters anarchy.. Carl Marx was an embittered old Jew suffering from siphyless who was to lazy to take advantage of an industrial revolution that was centered in England at the time…

Once again the word “Communism” is loaded but the fact is it need not be centered on the state as with the disciples it was centered on God

[theodorej]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2010,02:36)

Quote (theodorej @ July 12 2010,01:22) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2010,05:37) Quote (theodorej @ July 11 2010,02:50) Greetings B….Communism is a cult philosophy that is not in keeping with God or his law….A country such as America has forgotten the blessings that have been bestowed upon her….Gods plan is for every body to prosper and he said that the poor will always be with us,this suggests that those who are blessed should share…We are embracing a form of communism because we are lazy and want the government to supply our every need….and at the same time rejecting God and his statutes…. Communism is what the disciples practiced if you get over the loaded word it simply means COMMUNITY. They yook it very seriously even to the point of some dying such as those who tried to hold back their land and dropped dead for doing so Greetings B….. COM (community) U (individual) Nism (belief system) people living in community with one belief ..and that belief is that there are no individual rights only those delegated by the powers to be ( the State )….The state declares that religion is an enemy in principle because it aspouses a higher authority….The state insures its existance by taking the fruits of the productive and distributing them to the none productive…eventually no one is productive…communism is a recipe for totalatarian control and by virtue of its bankrupt philosophy it fosters anarchy.. Carl Marx was an embittered old Jew suffering from siphyless who was to lazy to take advantage of an industrial revolution that was centered in England at the time… Once again the word “Communism” is loaded but the fact is it need not be centered on the state as with the disciples it was centered on God

Greetings B….I understand your point and in principle you are correct, with one significant aspect being..The apostles were not garnering power through confiscatory authority and redistributing as they saw fit….They were seeking God and were in community with people of the same mind…

[bodhitharta]

Quote (theodorej @ July 12 2010,23:08)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2010,02:36) Quote (theodorej @ July 12 2010,01:22) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2010,05:37) Quote (theodorej @ July 11 2010,02:50) Greetings B….Communism is a cult philosophy that is not in keeping with God or his law….A country such as America has forgotten the blessings that have been bestowed upon her….Gods plan is for every body to prosper and he said that the poor will always be with us,this suggests that those who are blessed should share…We are embracing a form of communism because we are lazy and want the government to supply our every need….and at the same time rejecting God and his statutes…. Communism is what the disciples practiced if you get over the loaded word it simply means COMMUNITY. They yook it very seriously even to the point of some dying such as those who tried to hold back their land and dropped dead for doing so Greetings B….. COM (community) U (individual) Nism (belief system) people living in community with one belief ..and that belief is that there are no individual rights only those delegated by the powers to be ( the State )….The state declares that religion is an enemy in principle because it aspouses a higher authority….The state insures its existance by taking the fruits of the productive and distributing them to the none productive…eventually no one is productive…communism is a recipe for totalatarian control and by virtue of its bankrupt philosophy it fosters anarchy.. Carl Marx was an embittered old Jew suffering from siphyless who was to lazy to take advantage of an industrial revolution that was centered in England at the time… Once again the word “Communism” is loaded but the fact is it need not be centered on the state as with the disciples it was centered on God Greetings B….I understand your point and in principle you are correct, with one significant aspect being..The apostles were not garnering power through confiscatory authority and redistributing as they saw fit….They were seeking God and were in community with people of the same mind…

Exactly and that was the initial intent of “Communism” but we totally agree on both points. Communism as practiced today is in no way based on true Godly Community principles

[Author]

Posts