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Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2013,08:13) Hi Ed It appears that you are preaching another Jesus.
It appears that you are lacking understanding of Jesus.Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2013,08:13) The message of Christ is so simple, why complicate it?
Hi Journey42,So just wait and do nothing is your message?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ Feb. 06 2013,08:52) Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2013,03:13) Hi Ed Quote ὀπτάνομαι (optanomai): signifies an earnest but more continued inspection (θεωρέω) θεωρέω (theaomai):
behold, consider, look on
From a derivative of theaomai (perhaps by addition of horao); to be a spectator of,
i.e. Discern, (literally, figuratively (experience) or intensively (acknowledge)) –
– behold, consider, look on, perceive, see. Compare optanomai.What is all this jargon? Do I have to read back 20 posts to see what you are talking about?
Quote Not “see physically”, but to understand and experience “Spiritually”.
Oh is this what it means?
could you tell me what you mean by “”THE WORLD”””
JN 14:19 “ After a little while the world will no longer see Me,
but you will see Me; because I live, you will live also.
Hi Pierre, Good post!“See” clearly means “perceive” in John 14:19; do you agree Journey42?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2013,10:55) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,05:31) Hi Wakeup, A progression away from sin:
1John illustrates a progression away from sin. Starting at 1John 1:8:
“If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves”…
Sinners practice sin!Progressing to 1John 3:9: “Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; For his seed
remainith in him: and he cannot sin (AS A USUAL PRACTICE), because he is borne of God.”
Practice of sin diminishes!Finishing in 1John 5:18: “We know that whosoever is borne of God SINNETH NOT;
But he that is begotten of God keepeth (GUARDS) himself,
and that wicked one (Satan) toucheth him not.
All sinning STOPS; fulfilling Matt. 5:44! (Eph.4:13)God bless
Ed J
EDJ.A progression from sinning means,from doing many sins to one or two sins a week,in your case it would be one or two sins a day.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,So, have you stopped sinning yet then? …or just cut back a little?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,14:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2013,10:55) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,05:31) Hi Wakeup, A progression away from sin:
1John illustrates a progression away from sin. Starting at 1John 1:8:
“If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves”…
Sinners practice sin!Progressing to 1John 3:9: “Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; For his seed
remainith in him: and he cannot sin (AS A USUAL PRACTICE), because he is borne of God.”
Practice of sin diminishes!Finishing in 1John 5:18: “We know that whosoever is borne of God SINNETH NOT;
But he that is begotten of God keepeth (GUARDS) himself,
and that wicked one (Satan) toucheth him not.
All sinning STOPS; fulfilling Matt. 5:44! (Eph.4:13)God bless
Ed J
EDJ.A progression from sinning means,from doing many sins to one or two sins a week,in your case it would be one or two sins a day.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,So, have you stopped sinning yet then? …or just cut back a little?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.I restrain my self from sinning.
But I can sin. I am not immune,no one is.
Only he that is born of God CAN NOT sin.The begotten of God restrain himself from sin.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2013,21:08)
EDJ.I restrain my self from sinning.
But I can sin. I am not immune,no one is.
Only he that is born of God CAN NOT sin.The begotten of God restrain himself from sin.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup.
1st John 3:7-10.
The person who practices righteousness is righteous, just as the Messiah is righteous. The person who practices sin belongs to the evil one, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason that the Son of God was revealed was to destroy what the devil has been doing. No one who has been BORN FROM GOD practices sin, because God’s seed abides in him. Indeed, he cannot go on sinning, because he has been BORN FROM GOD. This is how God’s children and the devil’s children are distinguished. No person who fails to practice righteousness and to love his brother is from God.
Do you see that?
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2013,19:08) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,14:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2013,10:55) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,05:31) Hi Wakeup, A progression away from sin:
1John illustrates a progression away from sin. Starting at 1John 1:8:
“If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves”…
Sinners practice sin!Progressing to 1John 3:9: “Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; For his seed
remainith in him: and he cannot sin (AS A USUAL PRACTICE), because he is borne of God.”
Practice of sin diminishes!Finishing in 1John 5:18: “We know that whosoever is borne of God SINNETH NOT;
But he that is begotten of God keepeth (GUARDS) himself,
and that wicked one (Satan) toucheth him not.
All sinning STOPS; fulfilling Matt. 5:44! (Eph.4:13)God bless
Ed J
EDJ.A progression from sinning means,from doing many sins to one or two sins a week,in your case it would be one or two sins a day.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,So, have you stopped sinning yet then? …or just cut back a little?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.I restrain my self from sinning.
But I can sin. I am not immune,no one is.
Only he that is born of God CAN NOT sin.The begotten of God restrain himself from sin.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Well it's about time that you become “born of God” then!
“Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is “born of God”:
and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that
is begotten of him. 2 By this we know that we love the children
of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.” (1John 5:1-2)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (2besee @ Feb. 06 2013,20:00) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2013,21:08)
EDJ.I restrain my self from sinning.
But I can sin. I am not immune,no one is.
Only he that is born of God CAN NOT sin.The begotten of God restrain himself from sin.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup.
1st John 3:7-10.
The person who practices righteousness is righteous, just as the Messiah is righteous. The person who practices sin belongs to the evil one, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason that the Son of God was revealed was to destroy what the devil has been doing. No one who has been BORN FROM GOD practices sin, because God’s seed abides in him. Indeed, he cannot go on sinning, because he has been BORN FROM GOD. This is how God’s children and the devil’s children are distinguished. No person who fails to practice righteousness and to love his brother is from God.
Do you see that?
2Besee.Analyse the words CAN NOT.
Do you realy believe that you CAN NOT sin?1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2013,23:06) Quote (2besee @ Feb. 06 2013,20:00) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2013,21:08)
EDJ.I restrain my self from sinning.
But I can sin. I am not immune,no one is.
Only he that is born of God CAN NOT sin.The begotten of God restrain himself from sin.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup.
1st John 3:7-10.
The person who practices righteousness is righteous, just as the Messiah is righteous. The person who practices sin belongs to the evil one, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason that the Son of God was revealed was to destroy what the devil has been doing. No one who has been BORN FROM GOD practices sin, because God’s seed abides in him. Indeed, he cannot go on sinning, because he has been BORN FROM GOD. This is how God’s children and the devil’s children are distinguished. No person who fails to practice righteousness and to love his brother is from God.
Do you see that?
2Besee.Analyse the words CAN NOT.
Do you realy believe that you CAN NOT sin?1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, you're taking that verse “out of context”.A progression away from sin:
1John illustrates a progression away from sin. Starting at 1John 1:8:
“If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves”…
Sinners practice sin!Progressing to 1John 3:9: “Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; For his seed
remainith in him: and he cannot sin (AS A USUAL PRACTICE), because he is borne of God.”
Practice of sin diminishes!Finishing in 1John 5:18: “We know that whosoever is borne of God SINNETH NOT;
But he that is begotten of God keepeth (GUARDS) himself,
and that wicked one (Satan) toucheth him not.
All sinning STOPS; fulfilling Matt. 5:44! (Eph.4:13)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,14:37) Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 05 2013,23:25) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,23:16) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 05 2013,22:36) EdJ. Where does it say Jesus returned in spirit?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father
will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)“Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice:
and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.
A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come:
but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the
anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. And ye now therefore have sorrow:
but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.” (John 16:20-22)“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death,
till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matt 16:28)“So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him
shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28)God bless
Ed J
EdChrist will be coming back physically.
Hi Journey42,Please explain the Scripture I gave then; OK?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ok which verse would you like me to explain? There's a few here.Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,14:40) Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2013,08:13) Hi Ed It appears that you are preaching another Jesus.
It appears that you are lacking understanding of Jesus.
To you maybe Ed.Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,22:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2013,19:08) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,14:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2013,10:55) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,05:31) Hi Wakeup, A progression away from sin:
1John illustrates a progression away from sin. Starting at 1John 1:8:
“If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves”…
Sinners practice sin!Progressing to 1John 3:9: “Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; For his seed
remainith in him: and he cannot sin (AS A USUAL PRACTICE), because he is borne of God.”
Practice of sin diminishes!Finishing in 1John 5:18: “We know that whosoever is borne of God SINNETH NOT;
But he that is begotten of God keepeth (GUARDS) himself,
and that wicked one (Satan) toucheth him not.
All sinning STOPS; fulfilling Matt. 5:44! (Eph.4:13)God bless
Ed J
EDJ.A progression from sinning means,from doing many sins to one or two sins a week,in your case it would be one or two sins a day.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,So, have you stopped sinning yet then? …or just cut back a little?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.I restrain my self from sinning.
But I can sin. I am not immune,no one is.
Only he that is born of God CAN NOT sin.The begotten of God restrain himself from sin.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Well it's about time that you become “born of God” then!
“Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is “born of God”:
and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that
is begotten of him. 2 By this we know that we love the children
of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.” (1John 5:1-2)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDj.Just put away all your fancy stuff.
To all the born again spirits.
NO ONE IS GOOD, BUT THE FATHER ONLY.So stop walking around as if you are floating in the air,
and hide those wings in your pockets.I can say it with confidence,because I believe what God says,and it clicked with me. Two of the same spirits in agreement.
And he says:
Isaiah 32:9 Rise up, ye women that are at ease; hear my voice, ye careless daughters; give ear unto my speech. ALL THE BORN AGAIN COMES OUT OF THESE DAUGHTERS.
Isaiah 32:10 Many days and years shall ye be troubled, ye careless women: for the vintage shall fail, the gathering shall not come. ALL BORN AGAIN WILL BE TROUBLED. (ITS JUST GOD SPEAKING,WHAT DOES HE KNOW).
NOW IF THE SPIRIT IN YOU IS NOT THE SAME WITH THE SPIRIT OF THESE WORDS. IT WILL MEAN NOTHING TO YOU. THEY ARE JUST WORDS OF NO MEANING.
wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,14:44) Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2013,08:13) The message of Christ is so simple, why complicate it?
Hi Journey42,So just wait and do nothing is your message?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Yep, just sit on heaven net all day and tell everyone off. That will get us there.Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2013,23:59) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,14:44) Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2013,08:13) The message of Christ is so simple, why complicate it?
Hi Journey42,So just wait and do nothing is your message?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Yep, just sit on heaven net all day and tell everyone off. That will get us there.
Is there anyone here that we can have a serious conversation with?Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2013,23:58) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,14:40) Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2013,08:13) Hi Ed It appears that you are preaching another Jesus.
It appears that you are lacking understanding of Jesus.
To you maybe Ed.
Hi Georgie,Why don't come and join us on another bash Ed thread:
(we will keep our thread clean – for serious discourse)https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….10;st=0
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2013,23:59)
EdConsidering you have been studying the scriptures for 40 odd years, one would think that by me explaining those scriptures to you that I would be insulting your intelligence.
But as it happens to turn out, knowing that you are an intelligent man, leaves me thinking that you have a different spirit in you that is toying with us. I love you Ed, but it is very sad.Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2013,23:56) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,14:37) Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 05 2013,23:25) Ed Christ will be coming back physically.
Hi Journey42,Please explain the Scripture I gave then; OK?
God bless
Ed J
Ok which verse would you like me to explain? There's a few here.
Hi Georgie,These Scriptures (John 14:23, John 16:20-22, Matt 16:28, Heb 9:28) indicate that Jesus returned (in spirit form)
on “Pentecost”. Since you say otherwise, please let me hear your 'spin' as to what you believe they mean; OK?“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father
will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)“Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice:
and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.
A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come:
but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the
anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. And ye now therefore have sorrow:
but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.” (John 16:20-22)“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death,
till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matt 16:28)“So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him
shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ Feb. 07 2013,00:10) Ed Considering you have been studying the scriptures for 40 odd years, one would think that by me explaining those scriptures to you that I would be insulting your intelligence.
But as it happens to turn out, knowing that you are an intelligent man, leaves me thinking that you have a different spirit in you that is toying with us. I love you Ed, but it is very sad.
Georgie,Would you miss me if I was gone from H-net?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Journey.
After all those scriptures you and I have posted; have you noticed something strange in the raction of the crowd? NO reaction.
Those srcriptures dont seem to connect with any of them. All of those scriptures have not found the right person with the same wavelength.
They are in an other wavelength.
Its all Gods anyway.wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 07 2013,00:09) Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2013,23:58) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,14:40) Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 06 2013,08:13) Hi Ed It appears that you are preaching another Jesus.
It appears that you are lacking understanding of Jesus.
To you maybe Ed.
Hi Georgie,Why don't come and join us on another bash Ed thread:
(we will keep our thread clean – for serious discourse)https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….10;st=0
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi EdNo thanks. I'm not jumping on the band wagon. I might look like a brown nose!
I just had a little read over there, and you are getting all upset. This is close to your heart Ed, and we know that. If you really believe what you say then speak and answer with confidence like you always do. Don't get offended, it's a debate. We have to test all things to see if they stand or fall as you are introducing something different here.
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