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Hi BD,
Son of David according to the flesh and son of God according to the Spirit of Holiness.
Rom1.You offer a false prophet as a substitute?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 29 2010,12:46) Hi BD,
Son of David according to the flesh and son of God according to the Spirit of Holiness.
Rom1.You offer a false prophet as a substitute?
Actually, I didn't offer a substitute.I didn't ever say that someone should choose, I said that Muhammad also accepts Jesus as Christ so how can Muhammad be a false prophet whne the scriptures clearly say that a person who accepts that Jesus is Christ is born of God, right?
Hi BD,
Accepting the existance of the Lord as a minion who got things wrong is not relevant.
The Holy one of God is not less than your false prophet.Hi BD,
Prophets are proven by the fulfillment of their prophecies not their pious words.
What has proven to be true from your leader's predictions?Hi BD,
You offer a supreme religion.
Clearly there is some boasting of superiority over all others here.
Yet your religion is late, your leader unpredicted and his words only dead and waffly.
Why are you convinced?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 29 2010,12:59) Hi BD,
Accepting the existance of the Lord as a minion who got things wrong is not relevant.
The Holy one of God is not less than your false prophet.
Are those your thoughts because they're not mineQuote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 29 2010,13:01) Hi BD,
Prophets are proven by the fulfillment of their prophecies not their pious words.
What has proven to be true from your leader's predictions?
From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #14)You can't be more clear than that and that was before the protestant reformation and now there are 29,000 denominations.
But also a prophet is not simply a futurist a prophet gives the revelation of God to the People, Moses delivered the Guidance of God not a collection of future events the word Prophet comes from the word PROFESS and it generally means to Go Tell.
Jesus did not even tell much about the future and instead said
And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Acts 1:6-8Now, you were saying…
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 29 2010,13:10) Hi BD,
God was revealed in Jesus Christ. Did you miss the opportunity to know Him?
Yes he was and no I didn'tQuote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 29 2010,13:33) Hi BD,
But you chose another master and now slag the one fully blessed in God's Spirit?
How is that? You mean loving Christ a person should not accept any other knowledge? If so, why take guidance from Paul? Why do you think Jesus even had disciples?Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2010,19:00) Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 29 2010,11:40) I wonder why plagiarism is not against the rules here…
I thought I had put the link but why are you pretending that you haven't cut and pasted,? Use your sense!
I always supply links back to the source.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 29 2010,13:47) hi BD,
Christ was in Paul but not in your leader.He was making his own path.
So Christ told Paul that nothing good was in him?For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Romans 7:17-19are you saying here in now that Christ was in Paul and Paul could do no good?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,12:43) Jesus is also the son of David, yes or no?
Luke 20:41-44: And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son?
And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou on my right hand,Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2010,16:06) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,12:43) Jesus is also the son of David, yes or no?
Luke 20:41-44: And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son?
And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou on my right hand,Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?
Yes, how then is he his son?Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,16:11) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2010,16:06) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,12:43) Jesus is also the son of David, yes or no?
Luke 20:41-44: And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son?
And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou on my right hand,Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?
Yes, how then is he his son?
John 3:16: For God([יהוה האלהים](JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm)
so loved the world, that HE GAVE HIS “ONLY” BEGOTTEN SON([יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă),
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him
is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already,
because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world,
and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2010,04:44) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,16:11) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2010,16:06) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2010,12:43) Jesus is also the son of David, yes or no?
Luke 20:41-44: And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son?
And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou on my right hand,Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?
Yes, how then is he his son?
John 3:16: For God([יהוה האלהים](JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm)
so loved the world, that HE GAVE HIS “ONLY” BEGOTTEN SON([יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă),
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him
is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already,
because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world,
and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
That doesn't answer the question,Why is Jesus called the son of David?
Colonel DONALD ROCKWELL (American)
Why did I accept Islam? For a long time I had been greatly impressed by Islam's clear logic and
formal simplicity, by the magnetizing attraction felt towards its mosques, by the great solemnity
and deep affection with which the adherents of that religion had devoted themselves to their
faith, by the profound respect and pure sincerity in which Muslims all over the world had been
prostrating themselves simultaneously five times daily. However, all these things were short of
causing me to become a Muslim. Only after a thoroughgoing analysis of the Islamic religion,
which resulted in my exploring a myriad of beautiful and useful aspects in it, did I become a
Muslim. A solemn and, at the same time, sentimental, attachment to life, [which was
Muhammad's 'alaihis-salam' personal approach]; a mutually consultative method in doing daily
chores; a habitually soft behavior flavored with mercy and compassion in social lives,
indiscriminately; charity for the poor; property rights, which women had been given for the first
time; all these things, which were only a few of the many other revolutions that could only be
evaluated as 'the most tremendous', and how aphoristical and concise a language it is through
which Muhammad 'alaihis-salam' expresses these concepts! By cautioning, “Place your trust in
Allahu ta'ala; yet do not forget to tie your camel!”, Muhammad 'alaihis-salam' conveys also that
Allahu ta'ala commands His born slaves to put their trust in Him only after taking all sorts of
necessary precautions. Then, contrary to Europeans' assertions, the Islamic religion is not a
religion for those idlers who expect everything from Allahu ta'ala without doing anything for
their part. The Islamic religion commands everybody first to do their best and only then to put
their trust in Allahu ta'ala.
The justice which Islam rendered to people of other religions was one of its aspects which had
had a great impact on me. Muhammad 'alaihis-salam' commands Muslims to be benign towards
Christians and Jews. Qur'an al- karim acknowledges the prophethoods of the other prophets as
well, beginning with Adam 'alaihis-salam' and including Musa and Isa 'alaihim-as-salam'. This is
an exalted sense of faith and a great model of justice, which other religions do not possess. While
the believers of other religions are casting inconceivable aspersions on Islam, Muslims are
answering them favorably.
One of the most beautiful aspects of Islam is that it has completely purified itself of idols.
Whereas pictures, icons and signs are still being worshiped in Christianity, things of this nature
do not exist in Islam. This is an indication of how pure and unstained a religion Islam is.
The facts stated and taught by Muhammad 'alaihis-salam', the Messenger of Allahu ta'ala, have
reached our time without any interpolation. And the Qur'an al-karim, which is the Word of
Allah, has been preserved in its pristine purity, exactly as it was revealed, without losing
anything from the limpidity it had in the time of Muhammad 'alaihis-salam'. The fabricated
superstitions and legends with which Christians have defiled the religion of Isa 'alaihis-salam' are
not the case with Islam.
Of the determinants that motivated me to become a Muslim, the last one was the fortitude and
the will power that I observed in Islam. Islam induced an overall cleanliness, not only spiritually,
but also physically. Examples of the features that make up this superior nature are not to
overload the stomach when eating, to fast for one month every year, to be moderate in every
respect, to be neither extravagant nor parsimonious in spending money, etc. In an exquisite style,
facts that would guide humanity not only temporarily but also ever after were being inculcated
into individuals. I visited almost all of the Muslim countries. I saw in person how all the
Muslims in Istanbul, in Damascus, in Cairo, in Algeria, in Morocco, and in the other Muslim
cities observed all these rules and thereby led a peaceful life. They did not need ornaments,pictures, icons, candles, music, or other trivialities of the same sort to initiate themselves into the
life-style leading to the sympathy of Allahu ta'ala. The sense of awareness of the fact that they
were the born slaves of Allahu ta'ala and their acts of supplication before Him afforded them the
greatest source of spiritual peace, happiness and flavor.
The qualities of freedom and equity inherent in the Islamic religion have always magnetized me
towards it. Among Muslims, a person occupying the highest rank position and the poorest
member of the society are equal before Allahu ta'ala, and they are merely two individuals in the
general recognition of fraternity. Muslims perform their acts of worship side by side in mosques.
There are not any special places allotted for the leadership.
Muslims hold the belief that there is not a third person to act as an intermediary between Allahu
ta'ala and His born slave. The Islamic acts of worship are performed between Allahu ta'ala and
the slave. They do not appeal to men of religion for the forgiveness of their wrongdoings. Every
Muslim is the only person responsible for his personal behavior.
The mutual fraternity among Muslims has always been helpful in my personal life. This
fraternity was one of the factors whereby I was charmed towards Islam. I know that, wherever I
go, a Muslim brother of mine will help me and sympathize with me. All Muslims the world over,
of different races, colors and political views as they may be, are brothers and they look on it as
an obligation to help one another.
These are the causes for my becoming a Muslim. I wonder if it could be possible to conceive of
causes more beautiful or more exalted than these?Mrs. CECILLA CANNOLY [Rashida](Austrian)
Why did I become a Muslim?
Let me tell you sincerely that I became a Muslim without even noticing it myself. For, at a very
young age I had already completely lost my confidence in Christianity and had begun to feel
apathy towards the Christian religion. I was curious about many religious facts. I was disinclined
to believe blindly the creed they were trying to teach me. Why were there three gods? Why had
we all come to this world sinful, and why did we have to expiate it? Why could we invoke
Allahu ta'ala only through a priest? And what were the meanings of all these various signs that
we were being shown and the miracles that we were being told? Whenever I asked these
questions to the teaching priests, they would become angry and answer, “You cannot inquire
about the inner natures of the church's teachings. They are secret. All you have to do is to believe
them.” And this was another thing that I would never understand. How could one believe
something whose essence one did not know? However, in those days I did not dare divulge these
thoughts of mine. I am sure that many of today's so-called Christians are of the same opinion as I
was; they do not believe most of the religious teachings imposed on them, yet they are afraid to
disclose it.
The older I became the farther away did I feel from Christianity, finally breaking away from the
church once and for all and beginning to wonder whether there was a religion that taught “to
worship one single God.” My entire conscience and heart told me that there was only one God.
Then, when I looked around, the events showed me how meaningless the unintelligible miracles
that priests had been trying to teach us, and the absurd stories of saints they had been telling us,
were. Didn't everything on the earth, human beings, beasts, forests, mountains, seas, trees,
flowers indicate that a great Creator had created them? Wasn't a newly born baby a miracle in
itself? On the other hand, the church was striving to indoctrinate the people with the preposterous
belief that every newly born baby was a wretched, sinful creature. No, this was impossible, a lie.
Every newly born child was an innocent slave, a creature of Allahu ta'ala. It was a miracle, and I
believed only in Allah and in the miracles He created.
Nothing in the world was inherently sinful, dirty, or ugly. I was of this opinion, when one day
my daughter came home with a book written about Islam. My daughter and I sat together and
read the book with great attention. O my Allah, the book said exactly as I had been thinking.
Islam announced that there is one Allah and informed that people are born as innocent creatures.
Until that time I had been entirely ignorant of Islam. In schools Islam was an object of derision.
We had been taught that that religion was false and absurd and infused one with sloth, and that
Muslims would go to Hell. Upon reading the book, I was plunged into thoughts. To acquire moredetailed information about Islam, I visited Muslims living in my town. The Muslims I found
opened my eyes. The answers they gave to my questions were so logical that I began to believe
that Islam was not a concocted religion as our priests had been asserting, but a true religion of
Allahu ta'ala. My daughter and I read many other books written about Islam, were fully
convinced as to its sublimeness and veracity, and eventually embraced Islam, both of us. I
adopted the name 'Rashida', and my daughter chose 'Mahmuda' as her new name.
As for the second question that you ask me: “What aspect of Islam do you like best?” Here is my
answer:
What I like best about Islam is the nature of its prayers. In Christianity prayers are said in order
to ask for worldly blessings such as wealth, position and honor from Allahu ta'ala through Isa
'alaihis-salam'. Muslims, in contrast, express their gratitude to Allahu ta'ala and they know that
as long as they abide by their religion and obey the commandments of Allahu ta'ala, Allahu ta'ala
will give them whatever they need without them asking for it.
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