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  • #216213
    Baker
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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2010,04:08)
    all

    an image is a reflection or a simillar view of the real thing,

    Pierre


    A beast/government, imitating another, is the image of “that” beast/government.

    Georg

    #230288
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 27 2010,23:23)
    Mark-

    Isn't it funny how Paul said in Romans how this would come about?

    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    Peace-Mark


    Hi Mark,

    Isn't that what people are doing in regards to Jesus: 'thinking' there will be a flesh return(and always soon)?
    Isaiah 5:18-21 Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope:
    That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work, that we may see it: and let the counsel of the Holy
    One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it!
    Woe unto them that call evil good, and good
    evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

    Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! (Click Here)

    Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

    #230295
    kerwin
    Participant

    To all,

    Jesus is the exact image of the invisiable God.

    The Anti-Christ is the image of Satan, aka the Beast.

    #230319
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2010,01:17)
    To all,

    Jesus is the exact image of the invisiable God.

    The Anti-Christ is the image of Satan, aka the Beast.


    Kerwin

    if it is the exact image then it is the reality ,non??

    Pierre

    #230320
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2010,01:17)
    To all,

    Jesus is the exact image of the invisiable God.

    The Anti-Christ is the image of Satan, aka the Beast.


    Kerwin

    do you understand what you writing??

    Pierre

    #230325
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 28 2010,18:17)
    To all,

    Jesus is the exact image of the invisiable God.

    The Anti-Christ is the image of Satan, aka the Beast.


    kerwin

    You are correct on your first statement; God is spirit, and so is Jesus.

    Satan is not “”the beast””, look up Dan. 7:17, if you want to know what a “BEAST” is.
    Show me the scripture that says, Antichrist is the image of Satan?
    Antichrist is the image of the beast, that beast was Rome.

    Georg

    #230328
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Baker @ Dec. 29 2010,13:13)

    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 28 2010,18:17)
    To all,

    Jesus is the exact image of the invisiable God.

    The Anti-Christ is the image of Satan, aka the Beast.


    kerwin

    You are correct on your first statement; God is spirit, and so is Jesus.

    Satan is not “”the beast””, look up Dan. 7:17, if you want to know what a “BEAST” is.
    Show me the scripture that says, Antichrist is the image of Satan?
    Antichrist is the image of the beast, that beast was Rome.

    Georg


    Georg

    you right providing that ,that is what kerwin meant.with exact
    image

    Pierre

    #230348
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Everyone,

    Man created his own image after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
    Gen:5:3: And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in
    his own likeness,
    'after his image'; and called his name Seth:

    When Christ came (in the flesh), we see man once again man “in God's image”!
    Col:1:15: Who is
    the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    God's promise is that we will be transformed back into “God's image”!
    1Cor:15:49: And as we have borne 'the image of the earthy',
    we shall also bearthe image of the heavenly
    .

    Don't worship 'the image' of the beast!
    The image of the beast 'is a flesh return'!
    (Rev.12:15)

    Romans 1:22-25 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
    And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into 'an image made like to corruptible man',
    and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to
    uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:

    Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and “worshiped”(117) and served the creature(Jesus)
    more than the Creator (117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) ), who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #230378
    kerwin
    Participant

    Pierre and Georg,

    The exact image could be a statue that looks exactly like the original. It is usually not used to refer to the original but very well could refer to a representative of the original.

    God walks according to the spirit of righteousness and Jesus also walks according to the spirit of righteousness and so is the image of God.

    Satan walks according to the spirit of wickedness and the Anti- Christ also walks according to the spirit of wickedness and so is the image of Satan.

    Psalms 57:4 speaks of the wicked being called beasts. Satan as the father of the wicked would thus be the beast. Revelations 11:7 speaks of a Beast from the Abyss and Revelations 13:11 speaks of a beast coming out of the earth. Neither, either or both could be Satan. Revelations 13 1 speaks of another beast that comes from the sea and that one does not appear to be Satan though it is obviously given power by Satan.

    Daniel 7:17 speaks of four kings that are called beasts. The fourth beast also is referred to as a kingdom in Daniel 7:19.

    The false prophet is a religious organization or alliance of the same.

    I am convinced Babylon the Whore is a consumer country that for a time has authority over the beast that comes out of the sea but the beast and its allies will turn on her and destroy her at the appointed time. This will cause duress to the merchants who profit from her appetites as well as to others who benefited from her activities.

    There is much that I do not know or understand on this subject or about the prophecy of the end times.

    #230386
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Kerwin,

    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    Flesh worship is the 'image of the beast'!
    People fail to connect all the dots properly!

    Heb.13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
    John 6:15 When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take
    him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.

    Psalm 29:10 [The LORD JEHOVAH=151] sitteth upon the flood; yea, the LORD sitteth King for ever.
    Psalm 10:16 [The LORD JEHOVAH=151] is King for ever and ever: the heathen are perished out of his land.

    Romans 1:22-25 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
    And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into 'an image made like to corruptible man',
    and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to
    uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:

    Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and “worshiped”(117) and served the creature(Jesus)
    more than the Creator (117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) ), who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #230406
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2010,02:17)
    Pierre and Georg,

    The exact image could be a statue that looks exactly like the original.  It is usually not used to refer to the original but very well could refer to a representative of the original.  

    God walks according to the spirit of righteousness and Jesus also walks according to the spirit of righteousness and so is the image of God.  

    Satan walks according to the spirit of wickedness and the Anti- Christ also walks according to the spirit of wickedness and so is the image of Satan.

    Psalms 57:4 speaks of the wicked being called beasts.   Satan as the father of the wicked would thus be the beast.    Revelations 11:7 speaks of a Beast from the Abyss and Revelations 13:11 speaks of a beast coming out of the earth. Neither, either or both could be Satan.    Revelations 13 1 speaks of another beast that comes from the sea and that one does not appear to be Satan though it is obviously given power by Satan.  

    Daniel 7:17 speaks of four kings that are called beasts.  The fourth beast also is referred to as a kingdom in Daniel 7:19.

    The false prophet is a religious organization or alliance of the same.

    I am convinced Babylon the Whore is a consumer country that for a time has authority over the beast that comes out of the sea but the beast and its allies will turn on her and destroy her at the appointed time.  This will cause duress to the merchants who profit from her appetites as well as to others who benefited from her activities.

    There is much that I do not know or understand on this subject or about the prophecy of the end times.


    kerwin

    the image can then also be different like;oooo and —- being the image of oooo,
    a true image would be ;oooo and oooo
    right ??
    there are four ,this is right if the image reflects the will of the one who communicate the reality or want to cover the image .

    Pierre

    #230429
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,10:07)
    Hi Everyone,

    Man created his own image after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
    Gen:5:3: And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in
    his own likeness,
    'after his image'; and called his name Seth:

    When Christ came (in the flesh), we see man once again man “in God's image”!
    Col:1:15: Who is
    the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    God's promise is that we will be transformed back into “God's image”!
    1Cor:15:49: And as we have borne 'the image of the earthy',
    we shall also bearthe image of the heavenly
    .

    Don't worship 'the image' of the beast!
    The image of the beast 'is a flesh return'!
    (Rev.12:15)

    Romans 1:22-25 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
    And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into 'an image made like to corruptible man',
    and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to
    uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:

    Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and “worshiped”(117) and served the creature(Jesus)
    more than the Creator (117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) ), who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed

    Let me make one think clear, you are NOT my brother in Christ, because what you teach is of the DEVIL.

    We all know that Satan used scripture too, against Jesus.

    God created Adam first, after that we procreated.

    Where do you read that man will be “transformed back” into God's image?

    You speak of “image of the beast” and have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

    How many times have I said it, and how many times have I proven it, YOU ARE A FAKE.

    Georg

    #230432
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Baker @ Dec. 30 2010,05:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,10:07)
    Hi Everyone,

    Man created his own image after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
    Gen:5:3: And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in
    his own likeness,
    'after his image'; and called his name Seth:

    When Christ came (in the flesh), we see man once again man “in God's image”!
    Col:1:15: Who is
    the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    God's promise is that we will be transformed back into “God's image”!
    1Cor:15:49: And as we have borne 'the image of the earthy',
    we shall also bearthe image of the heavenly
    .

    Don't worship 'the image' of the beast!
    The image of the beast 'is a flesh return'!
    (Rev.12:15)

    Romans 1:22-25 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
    And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into 'an image made like to corruptible man',
    and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to
    uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:

    Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and “worshiped”(117) and served the creature(Jesus)
    more than the Creator (117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) ), who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed

    Let me make one think clear, you are NOT my brother in Christ, because what you teach is of the DEVIL.

    We all know that Satan used scripture too, against Jesus.

    God created Adam first, after that we procreated.

    Where do you read that man will be “transformed back” into God's image?

    You speak of “image of the beast” and have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

    How many times have I said it, and how many times have I proven it, YOU ARE A FAKE.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you(Ed J), The servant is not greater than his lord.
    If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you(Ed J); if they have kept my saying,
    they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my (יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă)
    name's sake, because they know not him(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) that sent me.

    1Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves
    likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
    2Tm.3:12: Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
    Rom.8:17: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;
    if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

    Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

    #230434
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2010,13:04)

    Quote (Baker @ Dec. 30 2010,05:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,10:07)
    Hi Everyone,

    Man created his own image after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
    Gen:5:3: And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in
    his own likeness,
    'after his image'; and called his name Seth:

    When Christ came (in the flesh), we see man once again man “in God's image”!
    Col:1:15: Who is
    the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    God's promise is that we will be transformed back into “God's image”!
    1Cor:15:49: And as we have borne 'the image of the earthy',
    we shall also bearthe image of the heavenly
    .

    Don't worship 'the image' of the beast!
    The image of the beast 'is a flesh return'!
    (Rev.12:15)

    Romans 1:22-25 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
    And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into 'an image made like to corruptible man',
    and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to
    uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:

    Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and “worshiped”(117) and served the creature(Jesus)
    more than the Creator (117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) ), who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed

    Let me make one think clear, you are NOT my brother in Christ, because what you teach is of the DEVIL.

    We all know that Satan used scripture too, against Jesus.

    God created Adam first, after that we procreated.

    Where do you read that man will be “transformed back” into God's image?

    You speak of “image of the beast” and have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

    How many times have I said it, and how many times have I proven it, YOU ARE A FAKE.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you(Ed J), The servant is not greater than his lord.
    If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you(Ed J); if they have kept my saying,
    they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my (יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă)
    name's sake, because they know not him(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) that sent me.

    1Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves
    likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
    2Tm.3:12: Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
    Rom.8:17: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;
    if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

    Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)


    EDJ

    self inflicted injuries are not part of those ,persecutions,

    it is time you wake up

    Pierre

    #230446
    kerwin
    Participant

    Pierre,

    I could state a 6 inch statue is the exact representation of the Eiffel Tower and be correct because the difference in size would be considered irrelevant for the comparison.

    #230449
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2010,15:06)
    Pierre,

    I could state a 6 inch statue is the exact representation of the Eiffel Tower and be correct because the difference in size would be considered irrelevant for the comparison.


    kerwin

    yes this is true,but if it was the size that was needed to be the image,then you would have misrepresented ,right ?

    and that is what i try to say ,an image is the reflection of what the person want to forecast with it,

    so if you would see a similar picture exact same size of original
    but the four sides are flat,in this case the image would be related to the size rather than the exact copy in a reduce size.

    Pierre

    #230507
    kerwin
    Participant

    Pierre,

    I agree that that what the speaker wants to forecast about an image is what is important when understanding their communications. The question is what God meant to forecast when he speaks of the image of the beast. The same when he speaks of man being created in the image of the invisible God and Jesus being the exact image of God.

    #230514
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2010,19:20)
    Pierre,

    I agree that that what the speaker wants to forecast about an image is what is important when understanding their communications.   The question is what God meant to forecast when he speaks of the image of the beast.  The same when he speaks of man being created in the image of the invisible God and Jesus being the exact image of God.


    Hi Kerwin,

    I see your like the Bereans.

    Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica,
    in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and
    searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #230538
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2010,06:04)

    Quote (Baker @ Dec. 30 2010,05:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,10:07)
    Hi Everyone,

    Man created his own image after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
    Gen:5:3: And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in
    his own likeness,
    'after his image'; and called his name Seth:

    When Christ came (in the flesh), we see man once again man “in God's image”!
    Col:1:15: Who is
    the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    God's promise is that we will be transformed back into “God's image”!
    1Cor:15:49: And as we have borne 'the image of the earthy',
    we shall also bearthe image of the heavenly
    .

    Don't worship 'the image' of the beast!
    The image of the beast 'is a flesh return'!
    (Rev.12:15)

    Romans 1:22-25 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
    And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into 'an image made like to corruptible man',
    and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to
    uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:

    Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and “worshiped”(117) and served the creature(Jesus)
    more than the Creator (117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) ), who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed

    Let me make one think clear, you are NOT my brother in Christ, because what you teach is of the DEVIL.

    We all know that Satan used scripture too, against Jesus.

    God created Adam first, after that we procreated.

    Where do you read that man will be “transformed back” into God's image?

    You speak of “image of the beast” and have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

    How many times have I said it, and how many times have I proven it, YOU ARE A FAKE.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you(Ed J), The servant is not greater than his lord.
    If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you(Ed J); if they have kept my saying,
    they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my (יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă)
    name's sake, because they know not him(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) that sent me.

    1Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves
    likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
    2Tm.3:12: Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
    Rom.8:17: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;
    if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

    Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)


    AS ALWAYS, YOU WIGGLED, AND WIESELD YOUR SELF OUT OF THIS ONE TOO; NO SURPRISE.

    Georg

    #230541
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 31 2010,02:20)
    Pierre,

    I agree that that what the speaker wants to forecast about an image is what is important when understanding their communications.   The question is what God meant to forecast when he speaks of the image of the beast.  The same when he speaks of man being created in the image of the invisible God and Jesus being the exact image of God.


    Kerwin

    ok ,i can see we can agree now

    pierre

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