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- September 13, 2010 at 6:57 am#216213BakerParticipant
Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2010,04:08) all an image is a reflection or a simillar view of the real thing,
Pierre
A beast/government, imitating another, is the image of “that” beast/government.Georg
December 28, 2010 at 6:15 am#230288Ed JParticipantQuote (mikeangel @ Dec. 27 2010,23:23) Mark- Isn't it funny how Paul said in Romans how this would come about?
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Peace-Mark
Hi Mark,Isn't that what people are doing in regards to Jesus: 'thinking' there will be a flesh return(and always soon)?
Isaiah 5:18-21 Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope:
That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work, that we may see it: and let the counsel of the Holy
One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it! Woe unto them that call evil good, and good
evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! (Click Here)Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)December 28, 2010 at 8:17 am#230295kerwinParticipantTo all,
Jesus is the exact image of the invisiable God.
The Anti-Christ is the image of Satan, aka the Beast.
December 28, 2010 at 7:01 pm#230319terrariccaParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2010,01:17) To all, Jesus is the exact image of the invisiable God.
The Anti-Christ is the image of Satan, aka the Beast.
Kerwinif it is the exact image then it is the reality ,non??
Pierre
December 28, 2010 at 7:19 pm#230320terrariccaParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2010,01:17) To all, Jesus is the exact image of the invisiable God.
The Anti-Christ is the image of Satan, aka the Beast.
Kerwindo you understand what you writing??
Pierre
December 28, 2010 at 8:13 pm#230325BakerParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Dec. 28 2010,18:17) To all, Jesus is the exact image of the invisiable God.
The Anti-Christ is the image of Satan, aka the Beast.
kerwinYou are correct on your first statement; God is spirit, and so is Jesus.
Satan is not “”the beast””, look up Dan. 7:17, if you want to know what a “BEAST” is.
Show me the scripture that says, Antichrist is the image of Satan?
Antichrist is the image of the beast, that beast was Rome.Georg
December 28, 2010 at 8:58 pm#230328terrariccaParticipantQuote (Baker @ Dec. 29 2010,13:13) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 28 2010,18:17) To all, Jesus is the exact image of the invisiable God.
The Anti-Christ is the image of Satan, aka the Beast.
kerwinYou are correct on your first statement; God is spirit, and so is Jesus.
Satan is not “”the beast””, look up Dan. 7:17, if you want to know what a “BEAST” is.
Show me the scripture that says, Antichrist is the image of Satan?
Antichrist is the image of the beast, that beast was Rome.Georg
Georgyou right providing that ,that is what kerwin meant.with exact
imagePierre
December 29, 2010 at 12:07 am#230348Ed JParticipantHi Everyone,
Man created his own image after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Gen:5:3: And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in
his own likeness, 'after his image'; and called his name Seth:When Christ came (in the flesh), we see man once again man “in God's image”!
Col:1:15: Who is “the image of the invisible God“, the firstborn of every creature:God's promise is that we will be transformed back into “God's image”!
1Cor:15:49: And as we have borne 'the image of the earthy',
we shall also bear “the image of the heavenly“.Don't worship 'the image' of the beast!
The image of the beast 'is a flesh return'! (Rev.12:15)Romans 1:22-25 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into 'an image made like to corruptible man',
and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and “worshiped”(117) and served the creature(Jesus)
more than the Creator (117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) ), who is blessed for ever. Amen.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 29, 2010 at 9:17 am#230378kerwinParticipantPierre and Georg,
The exact image could be a statue that looks exactly like the original. It is usually not used to refer to the original but very well could refer to a representative of the original.
God walks according to the spirit of righteousness and Jesus also walks according to the spirit of righteousness and so is the image of God.
Satan walks according to the spirit of wickedness and the Anti- Christ also walks according to the spirit of wickedness and so is the image of Satan.
Psalms 57:4 speaks of the wicked being called beasts. Satan as the father of the wicked would thus be the beast. Revelations 11:7 speaks of a Beast from the Abyss and Revelations 13:11 speaks of a beast coming out of the earth. Neither, either or both could be Satan. Revelations 13 1 speaks of another beast that comes from the sea and that one does not appear to be Satan though it is obviously given power by Satan.
Daniel 7:17 speaks of four kings that are called beasts. The fourth beast also is referred to as a kingdom in Daniel 7:19.
The false prophet is a religious organization or alliance of the same.
I am convinced Babylon the Whore is a consumer country that for a time has authority over the beast that comes out of the sea but the beast and its allies will turn on her and destroy her at the appointed time. This will cause duress to the merchants who profit from her appetites as well as to others who benefited from her activities.
There is much that I do not know or understand on this subject or about the prophecy of the end times.
December 29, 2010 at 9:55 am#230386Ed JParticipantHi Kerwin,
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Flesh worship is the 'image of the beast'!
People fail to connect all the dots properly!Heb.13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
John 6:15 When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take
him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.Psalm 29:10 [The LORD JEHOVAH=151] sitteth upon the flood; yea, the LORD sitteth King for ever.
Psalm 10:16 [The LORD JEHOVAH=151] is King for ever and ever: the heathen are perished out of his land.Romans 1:22-25 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into 'an image made like to corruptible man',
and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and “worshiped”(117) and served the creature(Jesus)
more than the Creator (117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) ), who is blessed for ever. Amen.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 29, 2010 at 3:09 pm#230406terrariccaParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2010,02:17) Pierre and Georg, The exact image could be a statue that looks exactly like the original. It is usually not used to refer to the original but very well could refer to a representative of the original.
God walks according to the spirit of righteousness and Jesus also walks according to the spirit of righteousness and so is the image of God.
Satan walks according to the spirit of wickedness and the Anti- Christ also walks according to the spirit of wickedness and so is the image of Satan.
Psalms 57:4 speaks of the wicked being called beasts. Satan as the father of the wicked would thus be the beast. Revelations 11:7 speaks of a Beast from the Abyss and Revelations 13:11 speaks of a beast coming out of the earth. Neither, either or both could be Satan. Revelations 13 1 speaks of another beast that comes from the sea and that one does not appear to be Satan though it is obviously given power by Satan.
Daniel 7:17 speaks of four kings that are called beasts. The fourth beast also is referred to as a kingdom in Daniel 7:19.
The false prophet is a religious organization or alliance of the same.
I am convinced Babylon the Whore is a consumer country that for a time has authority over the beast that comes out of the sea but the beast and its allies will turn on her and destroy her at the appointed time. This will cause duress to the merchants who profit from her appetites as well as to others who benefited from her activities.
There is much that I do not know or understand on this subject or about the prophecy of the end times.
kerwinthe image can then also be different like;oooo and —- being the image of oooo,
a true image would be ;oooo and oooo
right ??
there are four ,this is right if the image reflects the will of the one who communicate the reality or want to cover the image .Pierre
December 29, 2010 at 7:38 pm#230429BakerParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,10:07) Hi Everyone, Man created his own image after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Gen:5:3: And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in
his own likeness, 'after his image'; and called his name Seth:When Christ came (in the flesh), we see man once again man “in God's image”!
Col:1:15: Who is “the image of the invisible God“, the firstborn of every creature:God's promise is that we will be transformed back into “God's image”!
1Cor:15:49: And as we have borne 'the image of the earthy',
we shall also bear “the image of the heavenly“.Don't worship 'the image' of the beast!
The image of the beast 'is a flesh return'! (Rev.12:15)Romans 1:22-25 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into 'an image made like to corruptible man',
and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and “worshiped”(117) and served the creature(Jesus)
more than the Creator (117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) ), who is blessed for ever. Amen.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdLet me make one think clear, you are NOT my brother in Christ, because what you teach is of the DEVIL.
We all know that Satan used scripture too, against Jesus.
God created Adam first, after that we procreated.
Where do you read that man will be “transformed back” into God's image?
You speak of “image of the beast” and have no clue what you're talking about, do you?
How many times have I said it, and how many times have I proven it, YOU ARE A FAKE.
Georg
December 29, 2010 at 8:04 pm#230432Ed JParticipantQuote (Baker @ Dec. 30 2010,05:38) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,10:07) Hi Everyone, Man created his own image after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Gen:5:3: And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in
his own likeness, 'after his image'; and called his name Seth:When Christ came (in the flesh), we see man once again man “in God's image”!
Col:1:15: Who is “the image of the invisible God“, the firstborn of every creature:God's promise is that we will be transformed back into “God's image”!
1Cor:15:49: And as we have borne 'the image of the earthy',
we shall also bear “the image of the heavenly“.Don't worship 'the image' of the beast!
The image of the beast 'is a flesh return'! (Rev.12:15)Romans 1:22-25 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into 'an image made like to corruptible man',
and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and “worshiped”(117) and served the creature(Jesus)
more than the Creator (117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) ), who is blessed for ever. Amen.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdLet me make one think clear, you are NOT my brother in Christ, because what you teach is of the DEVIL.
We all know that Satan used scripture too, against Jesus.
God created Adam first, after that we procreated.
Where do you read that man will be “transformed back” into God's image?
You speak of “image of the beast” and have no clue what you're talking about, do you?
How many times have I said it, and how many times have I proven it, YOU ARE A FAKE.
Georg
Hi Georg,John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you(Ed J), The servant is not greater than his lord.
If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you(Ed J); if they have kept my saying,
they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my (יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă)
name's sake, because they know not him(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) that sent me.1Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves
likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
2Tm.3:12: Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
Rom.8:17: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;
if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)December 29, 2010 at 8:10 pm#230434terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2010,13:04) Quote (Baker @ Dec. 30 2010,05:38) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,10:07) Hi Everyone, Man created his own image after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Gen:5:3: And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in
his own likeness, 'after his image'; and called his name Seth:When Christ came (in the flesh), we see man once again man “in God's image”!
Col:1:15: Who is “the image of the invisible God“, the firstborn of every creature:God's promise is that we will be transformed back into “God's image”!
1Cor:15:49: And as we have borne 'the image of the earthy',
we shall also bear “the image of the heavenly“.Don't worship 'the image' of the beast!
The image of the beast 'is a flesh return'! (Rev.12:15)Romans 1:22-25 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into 'an image made like to corruptible man',
and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and “worshiped”(117) and served the creature(Jesus)
more than the Creator (117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) ), who is blessed for ever. Amen.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdLet me make one think clear, you are NOT my brother in Christ, because what you teach is of the DEVIL.
We all know that Satan used scripture too, against Jesus.
God created Adam first, after that we procreated.
Where do you read that man will be “transformed back” into God's image?
You speak of “image of the beast” and have no clue what you're talking about, do you?
How many times have I said it, and how many times have I proven it, YOU ARE A FAKE.
Georg
Hi Georg,John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you(Ed J), The servant is not greater than his lord.
If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you(Ed J); if they have kept my saying,
they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my (יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă)
name's sake, because they know not him(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) that sent me.1Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves
likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
2Tm.3:12: Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
Rom.8:17: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;
if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)
EDJself inflicted injuries are not part of those ,persecutions,
it is time you wake up
Pierre
December 29, 2010 at 10:06 pm#230446kerwinParticipantPierre,
I could state a 6 inch statue is the exact representation of the Eiffel Tower and be correct because the difference in size would be considered irrelevant for the comparison.
December 29, 2010 at 10:49 pm#230449terrariccaParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2010,15:06) Pierre, I could state a 6 inch statue is the exact representation of the Eiffel Tower and be correct because the difference in size would be considered irrelevant for the comparison.
kerwinyes this is true,but if it was the size that was needed to be the image,then you would have misrepresented ,right ?
and that is what i try to say ,an image is the reflection of what the person want to forecast with it,
so if you would see a similar picture exact same size of original
but the four sides are flat,in this case the image would be related to the size rather than the exact copy in a reduce size.Pierre
December 30, 2010 at 9:20 am#230507kerwinParticipantPierre,
I agree that that what the speaker wants to forecast about an image is what is important when understanding their communications. The question is what God meant to forecast when he speaks of the image of the beast. The same when he speaks of man being created in the image of the invisible God and Jesus being the exact image of God.
December 30, 2010 at 10:32 am#230514Ed JParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2010,19:20) Pierre, I agree that that what the speaker wants to forecast about an image is what is important when understanding their communications. The question is what God meant to forecast when he speaks of the image of the beast. The same when he speaks of man being created in the image of the invisible God and Jesus being the exact image of God.
Hi Kerwin,I see your like the Bereans.
Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica,
in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and
searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 30, 2010 at 5:16 pm#230538BakerParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2010,06:04) Quote (Baker @ Dec. 30 2010,05:38) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,10:07) Hi Everyone, Man created his own image after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Gen:5:3: And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in
his own likeness, 'after his image'; and called his name Seth:When Christ came (in the flesh), we see man once again man “in God's image”!
Col:1:15: Who is “the image of the invisible God“, the firstborn of every creature:God's promise is that we will be transformed back into “God's image”!
1Cor:15:49: And as we have borne 'the image of the earthy',
we shall also bear “the image of the heavenly“.Don't worship 'the image' of the beast!
The image of the beast 'is a flesh return'! (Rev.12:15)Romans 1:22-25 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into 'an image made like to corruptible man',
and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and “worshiped”(117) and served the creature(Jesus)
more than the Creator (117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) ), who is blessed for ever. Amen.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdLet me make one think clear, you are NOT my brother in Christ, because what you teach is of the DEVIL.
We all know that Satan used scripture too, against Jesus.
God created Adam first, after that we procreated.
Where do you read that man will be “transformed back” into God's image?
You speak of “image of the beast” and have no clue what you're talking about, do you?
How many times have I said it, and how many times have I proven it, YOU ARE A FAKE.
Georg
Hi Georg,John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you(Ed J), The servant is not greater than his lord.
If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you(Ed J); if they have kept my saying,
they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my (יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă)
name's sake, because they know not him(יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) that sent me.1Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves
likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
2Tm.3:12: Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
Rom.8:17: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;
if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)
AS ALWAYS, YOU WIGGLED, AND WIESELD YOUR SELF OUT OF THIS ONE TOO; NO SURPRISE.Georg
December 30, 2010 at 6:03 pm#230541terrariccaParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Dec. 31 2010,02:20) Pierre, I agree that that what the speaker wants to forecast about an image is what is important when understanding their communications. The question is what God meant to forecast when he speaks of the image of the beast. The same when he speaks of man being created in the image of the invisible God and Jesus being the exact image of God.
Kerwinok ,i can see we can agree now
pierre
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