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Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,23:02) It seems that Nick is in the position to do this but he wants to instigate dissention versus harmony and seldom addresses what is really addressed and side-tracks others. Until you get a moderator that will back up his comments with verses and a logical purpose it is just someone mouthing off, trying to piss people off.
Which is possibly his purpose, no? Devil's advocate.
Unfortunately, we take the bait and respond. (Jude 12)
I completely disagree with this, I can see what the problem is and it's not Nick.Quote (shimmer @ July 28 2010,07:08) Why is their no Woman here ? Who wants them gone and Why– Only One remains….
Hi Shimmer,I think that JustAskin, Arnold (Irene) and LightenUp (Kathi) are women, no?
My welcome,
Quote It sounds like you have been around for a while reading our posts on here. It also sounds like you don't like it here. I was wondering why you joined? Maranatha's welcome..
Quote She only comes here when she needs something…not because she wants to teach us something. Should I find more ? Because there is more
Is this what Scripture says about welcoming strangers ?
Quote (davidbfun @ July 26 2010,23:54) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2010,15:29) Hi ED,
Yes the apostasy has occurred so he can come back any time.
Will he find faith on the earth?
Or deception?
Hi Nick,Apparently it will be hard for him to find faith on the earth or he wouldn't have asked the question, no?
Ed brought up a good verse in Mk 3:24 about a kingdom divided can't stand.
If you look at heaven.net and see us as a kingdom, wouldn't you say that we are divided?
Welcome if I have not done so! If you take all the Churches of the world and say that they are divided, you are right. However the Church that Jesus is the body of, is a Spiritual Church not made from ma's hands. And they will meet Christ in a the air. To do that we have to be a Spirit Being….. There are two types of those. The elect and those that stand in front of the Throne. Those are a multitude it says in Rev.7:9. I am not sure how they will rule as. I do know that the elect will be Kings. While Christ is the head of those kings. Rev. 19:16 KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
I also believe that there are some here on H.N. who will fit that image….But the image of the Beast, is like Christ a false Christ and a Government that he rules….Georg my Husband knows so much more then I do, and I listen to Him a lot….. Irene
P.S. please always look at who sign's it, since we use the same users name….Quote (shimmer @ July 27 2010,23:08) Why is their no Woman here ? Who wants them gone and Why– Only One remains….
Welcome Shimmer! Yes, i am a woman, an old woman 72. Also Kathi who users name is lighten up….much younger….if you look at our signatures you will see who made the post…..IreneQuote (Ed J @ June 26 2010,12:12) This important information needs it's own thread. Hi Everybody,
Rev.13:15 And he (Antichrist) had power to give life unto the image of the (Adam) beast,
that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as
would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.Understanding this image ( Click Here) <– Third and Last Post (And Click Here)
In Rev.13:15 the false prophet causes those who don't worship this image of Adam should be killed. HOW ?
By claiming a futuristic (false) flesh return of Jesus; whoever does not worship this image is killed! (John 16:1-3)Jesus returned at Pentecost (Click Here)
We need to fully understand the difference between the image of Adam and Christ!
1Cor.15:49: And as we have borne the image of the earthy(Like Seth), (Rev. 13:15)
we shall also bear the image of the heavenly(Same as Christ!). (2Corinthians 4:3-4)God bless
Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Eccl.9:12-16)
PS> Please read through ALL the references to understand this 'antichrist' DECEPTION!
Tell me Ed, where in the Bible do you read of a beast for the first time?
I will tell you, because you just come up with an excuse.Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, (sea of nation) diverse one from another.
And what does the Bible say these beasts are?
Dan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth (earth meaning, from all the people).
Rev. 13:15 refers to the beast of verse 1, the Roman beast.
You are right in one thing; the image is Antichrist. Adam has nothing to do with anything here.Georg
Quote (Arnold @ July 28 2010,06:52) Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2010,12:12) This important information needs it's own thread. Hi Everybody,
Rev.13:15 And he (The False Prophet) had power to give life unto the image of the (Adam) beast,
that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as
would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.Understanding this image ( Click Here) <– Third and Last Post (And Click Here)
In Rev.13:15 the false prophet causes those who don't worship this image of Adam should be killed. HOW ?
By claiming a futuristic (false) flesh return of Jesus; whoever does not worship this image is killed! (John 16:1-3)Jesus returned at Pentecost (Click Here)
We need to fully understand the difference between the image of Adam and Christ!
1Cor.15:49: And as we have borne the image of the earthy(Like Seth), (Rev. 13:15)
we shall also bear the image of the heavenly(Same as Christ!). (2Corinthians 4:3-4)God bless
Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Eccl.9:12-16)
PS> Please read through ALL the references to understand this 'antichrist' DECEPTION!
1) Tell me Ed, where in the Bible do you read of a beast for the first time?
I will tell you, because you just come up with an excuse.Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, (sea of nation) diverse one from another.
And what does the Bible say these beasts are?
Dan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth (earth meaning, from all the people).
2) Rev. 13:15 refers to the beast of verse 1, the Roman beast.
3) You are right in one thing; the image is Antichrist. Adam has nothing to do with anything here.Georg
Hi Georg,
1) Gen.1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind,
cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.2) 'The antichrist' beast is indeed listed in Rev.13:1
and the name of blasphemy is 'i am'! (Click Here)3) The image of a false flesh return is indeed 'antichrist'! (John 6:63)
Quote (Arnold @ July 28 2010,02:39) Quote (shimmer @ July 27 2010,23:08) Why is their no Woman here ? Who wants them gone and Why– Only One remains….
Welcome Shimmer! Yes, i am a woman, an old woman 72. Also Kathi who users name is lighten up….much younger….if you look at our signatures you will see who made the post…..Irene
Thank you for the welcome Irene.Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2010,07:32) Quote (Arnold @ July 28 2010,06:52) Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2010,12:12) This important information needs it's own thread. Hi Everybody,
Rev.13:15 And he (The False Prophet) had power to give life unto the image of the (Adam) beast,
that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as
would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.Understanding this image ( Click Here) <– Third and Last Post (And Click Here)
In Rev.13:15 the false prophet causes those who don't worship this image of Adam should be killed. HOW ?
By claiming a futuristic (false) flesh return of Jesus; whoever does not worship this image is killed! (John 16:1-3)Jesus returned at Pentecost (Click Here)
We need to fully understand the difference between the image of Adam and Christ!
1Cor.15:49: And as we have borne the image of the earthy(Like Seth), (Rev. 13:15)
we shall also bear the image of the heavenly(Same as Christ!). (2Corinthians 4:3-4)God bless
Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Eccl.9:12-16)
PS> Please read through ALL the references to understand this 'antichrist' DECEPTION!
1) Tell me Ed, where in the Bible do you read of a beast for the first time?
I will tell you, because you just come up with an excuse.Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, (sea of nation) diverse one from another.
And what does the Bible say these beasts are?
Dan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth (earth meaning, from all the people).
2) Rev. 13:15 refers to the beast of verse 1, the Roman beast.
3) You are right in one thing; the image is Antichrist. Adam has nothing to do with anything here.Georg
Hi Georg,
1) Gen.1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind,
cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.2) 'The antichrist' beast is indeed listed in Rev.13:1
and the name of blasphemy is 'i am'! (Click Here)3) The image of a false flesh return is indeed 'antichrist'! (John 6:63)
Which one are you, Ed, Edd, or Eddy?You have no clue as to what you're talking about, do you?
How do you connect the beasts of the earth in Gen. 1:24, with the four beasts in Dan. 7:3, which symbolize kingdoms/empires?
You know, I'm coming back to you because you humor me. There was a guy on here some time ago who had some crazy ideas; I think you got him beat.
“The image of a false flesh”, what in the world is that?
How do you make a name out of “I AM”??
Rev. 13:1 symbolizes the Roman beast/empire. The fact that it is made up of the three previous beasts/empires (Dan. 7:4-6), shows that it was as bad as those three put together (compare with Dan. 7:7); there is no Antichrist in that scripture at all. (you need to give your dies a rest, and pay attention to what the Bible says). (you should also put away your paint brush, I think it splatters your glasses).WHAT IS IT THAT YOU HAVE AGAINST THE TRUTH?
Quote (shimmer @ July 27 2010,22:09) Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,23:02) It seems that Nick is in the position to do this but he wants to instigate dissention versus harmony and seldom addresses what is really addressed and side-tracks others. Until you get a moderator that will back up his comments with verses and a logical purpose it is just someone mouthing off, trying to piss people off.
Which is possibly his purpose, no? Devil's advocate.
Unfortunately, we take the bait and respond. (Jude 12)
I completely disagree with this, I can see what the problem is and it's not Nick.
You don't know Nick!!Quote (Arnold @ July 29 2010,20:39) (1)Which one are you, Ed, Edd, or Eddy? (2)You have no clue as to what you're talking about, do you?
How do you connect the beasts of the earth in Gen. 1:24, with the four beasts in Dan. 7:3, which symbolize kingdoms/empires?
You know, I'm coming back to you because you humor me. (3)There was a guy on here some time ago who had some crazy ideas; I think you got him beat.
(4)”The image of a false flesh”, what in the world is that?
(5)How do you make a name out of “I AM”??
Rev. 13:1 symbolizes the Roman beast/empire. The fact that it is made up of the three previous beasts/empires (Dan. 7:4-6), shows that it was as bad as those three put together (compare with Dan. 7:7); there is no Antichrist in that scripture at all. (you need to give your dies a rest, and pay attention to what the Bible says). ((6)you should also put away your paint brush, I think it splatters your glasses).WHAT IS IT THAT YOU HAVE AGAINST THE TRUTH?
Hi Georg,1) (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
2) You mean Georg has no clue as to what Ed J is talking about.
3) Who, meaning what name did they go by here?
4) (Revelation 13:15 / John 6:63 / 1 John 4:3)
An “image“ of a flesh return, which is false.
5) The 'title' of Lucifer is the great 'i am'.
6) Acts5:29…We ought to obey God rather than men.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Daniel 11:18 / Isaiah 27:4-5)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 29 2010,21:25) Quote (Arnold @ July 29 2010,20:39) (1)Which one are you, Ed, Edd, or Eddy? (2)You have no clue as to what you're talking about, do you?
How do you connect the beasts of the earth in Gen. 1:24, with the four beasts in Dan. 7:3, which symbolize kingdoms/empires?
You know, I'm coming back to you because you humor me. (3)There was a guy on here some time ago who had some crazy ideas; I think you got him beat.
(4)”The image of a false flesh”, what in the world is that?
(5)How do you make a name out of “I AM”??
Rev. 13:1 symbolizes the Roman beast/empire. The fact that it is made up of the three previous beasts/empires (Dan. 7:4-6), shows that it was as bad as those three put together (compare with Dan. 7:7); there is no Antichrist in that scripture at all. (you need to give your dies a rest, and pay attention to what the Bible says). ((6)you should also put away your paint brush, I think it splatters your glasses).WHAT IS IT THAT YOU HAVE AGAINST THE TRUTH?
Hi Georg,1) (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
2) You mean Georg has no clue as to what Ed J is talking about.
3) Who, meaning what name did they go by here?
4) (Revelation 13:15 / John 6:63 / 1 John 4:3)
An “image“ of a flesh return, which is false.
5) The 'title' of Lucifer is the great 'i am'.
6) Acts5:29…We ought to obey God rather than men.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Daniel 11:18 / Isaiah 27:4-5)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
2) You mean Georg has no clue as to what Ed J is talking about.
You are absolutely correct.3) Who, meaning what name did they go by here?
Texas.(4)”The image of a false flesh”, what in the world is that?
Your answer was,
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
AND
Jhn 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
AND
1Jo 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
These three scriptures you gave as an answer to my question, since I am not as smart as you are, would you mind explaining them to me in plain English how they connect?5) The 'title' of Lucifer is the great 'i am'.
Where in the Bible do you read that? this is what my Bible says.
Exd 3:6 Moreover he said, “I am” the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.
Exd 3:8 And “I am” come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians,…
Exd 3:14 And God said unto Moses, “I AM THAT I AM”: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, “I AM” hath sent me unto you.
IF YOU SAY THAT “I AM” IS Lucifer's title, THEN YOU ARE A BLASPHEMER.You failed to coment on this all together.
Rev. 13:1 symbolizes the Roman beast/empire. The fact that it is made up of the three previous beasts/empires (Dan. 7:4-6), shows that it was as bad as those three put together (compare with Dan. 7:7); there is no Antichrist in that scripture at all.I said it before, and I say it again, YOU ARE A FAKE!! Understanding you have NONE.
Hi Georg,
Do you want me to answer your questions or No? (Matt.7:7 / 2Tm.2:13)
Quote (Ed J @ July 30 2010,14:29) Hi Georg, Do you want me to answer your questions or No? (Matt.7:7 / 2Tm.2:13)
Why do you bother to ask? you never do!Instead you put up scripture (like now for instant) that have nothing to do with the subject.
And I bet you don't know either why you quoted them, do you?It appears as though it didn't bother you that I called you a blasphemer, no surprise, it wouldn't bother Satan either.
Quote (Arnold @ July 30 2010,21:32) Ed J It appears as though it didn't bother you that I called you a blasphemer, no surprise, it wouldn't bother Satan either.
Hi Georg,John 15:18-20 If the world(as in Georg) hate you, ye know that it hated me(יהשוע) before it hated you(Ed J).
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have
chosen you(Ed J) out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said
unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also
persecute you(Ed J); if they have kept my(יהשוע) saying, they will keep yours(Ed J) also.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Arnold @ July 30 2010,09:51) “The image of a false flesh”, what in the world is that?
Your answer was,
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
AND
Jhn 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
AND
1Jo 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
These three scriptures you gave as an answer to my question, since I am not as smart as you are, would you mind explaining them to me in plain English how they connect?
Hi Georg,A flesh return of Jesus that is false is what is being propagated in the 'systems of religion'.
Spirit is what makes alive, and that is why Jesus returned in Spirit form on “Pentecost”. (Click Here)
Now the 'antichrist' image message (Point No.1) has become the 'traditions of men'.The systems of religion and traditions of men do communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Arnold @ July 30 2010,09:51) The 'title' of Lucifer is the great 'i am'.
Where in the Bible do you read that? this is what my Bible says.
Exd 3:6 Moreover he said, “I am” the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.
Exd 3:8 And “I am” come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians,…
Exd 3:14 And God said unto Moses, “I AM THAT I AM”: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, “I AM” hath sent me unto you.
Hi Georg,The standardized translation of ‘I am that I am’ can be proven to be wrong;
yet the N.W.T. (JW's) version of the Bible has this phrase (אהיה אשר אהיה) translated correctly.Exodus 3:14 in the N.W.T.: …“I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE”…
The AKJV linguists successfully translated the phrase אהיה into “I WILL” hundreds of times in the “Old Testament”.
The AKJV translators also added words (which they italicized) to aid in translational differences;
they did this practice throughout the bible so as to NOT corrupt it!The AKJV linguists should have translated אהיה אשר אהיה into “I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE” (“Will be”=63 and “YHVH”=63);
this can be proven! The phrase ‘i am’ cannot be translated back into Hebrew; for it ‘i am’ is the product of man.
‘i am’ has now turned into the FAKE=23 false god of religion! Let’s see what N.W.T. says in Ezek. 28:2.N.W.T. Ezek. 28:2: …“For the reason that your heart has become haughty, (Psalm 18:25-27)
AND YOU KEEP SAYING, ‘i am' a god. In the seat of god” (emphasis mine)…This sounds remarkably eerily like what it says in 2Thess.2:4.
N.W.T. 2Thess.2:4 “He (‘i am’) is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone
who is called God=63(YHVH=63) or an object of reverence,
so that he (i am) sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god.”The AKJV bible was completed and in the public's hands in 1611.
The AKJV bible is going to bring about satan's final defeat!AKJV John 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world (i am) is judged.
The prince of this world is 'i am'(satan; the son of perdition).AKJV 2Thess.2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
AKJV 2Thess.2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God=63(YHVH=63),
or that is worshipped; so that he as (i am)God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he(satan) is God.AKJV 2Thess.2:8 And then shall that Wicked (i am) be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth (Rev.19:15),
and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan (Mark 13:6)
with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish;
because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:What lie did they believe?
AKJV Romans1:23-25 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man,
and to birds(the rapture), and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness
through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:Who changed the truth of God into a lie,
and worshipped and served the creature(Jesus) more than the Creator(YHVH), who is blessed for ever. Amen.'The devil's trick'; 'i am'=23! (AKJV Psalm 102:11-13)
AKJV Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my(Christ's) name,
saying, I am; and shall deceive many. (Romans 1:25 / John 6:15)God’s Name IS יהוה written exactly 6823 times in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts. See how the
Gematria value of Ιησους Χριστоς=2368 Ē-Ā-Soos Chrĭstŏs (Jesus Christ in Greek)
bears a striking resemblance to the number of times God’s Name is used in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts.the wall Jesus died to abolish (Eph.2:14), is illustrate as this dichotomy: [6823] and [2368].
“Trinitarian”? and “non-Trinitarian”!
6823 and 2368“Trinitarian” “non-Trinitarian”
New god=68 † 'i am'=23? 'i am'=23 † NOT JAH=68!
(AKJV Gal.2:20) (AKJV Psalm 68:4-5)AKJV Deut.3217 They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not,
to (i am) new gods that came newly up (Rev.13:1), whom your fathers feared not.AKJV Rev.13:11 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea,
having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads (i am) the name of blasphemy.Daniel 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he (i am) corrupt by flatteries:
but the people that do know their God (YHVH) shall be strong, and do exploits .Ed J (AKJV Hebrews 11:34 / Daniel 11:18)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Arnold @ July 30 2010,09:51)
IF YOU SAY THAT “I AM” IS Lucifer's title, THEN YOU ARE A BLASPHEMER.
Hi Georg,‘i am’ is lucifer’s ‘title’ (Click Here)
Ed J (Daniel 11:18)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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