The image of the beast

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2010,07:06)

edj what revelation also could mean is ;a kingdom that would image the truth of God s kingdom and deceit the people to support it and so receive the mark of that kingdom(beast). Pierre

Hi Terraricca,

Could you explain a little better what you mean?

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Arnold]

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2010,12:12)

This important information needs it's own thread. Hi Everybody, Rev.13:15 And he (Antichrist) had power to give life unto the image of the (Adam) beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.                        Understanding this image ( Click Here) <– Third and Last Post  (And Click Here) In Rev.13:15 the false prophet causes those who don't worship this image of Adam should be killed.   HOW ? By claiming a futuristic (false) flesh return of Jesus; whoever does not worship this image is killed! (John 16:1-3)                      Jesus returned at Pentecost (Click Here) We need to fully understand the difference between the image of Adam and Christ! 1Cor.15:49: And as we have borne the image of the earthy(Like Seth), (Rev. 13:15) we shall also bear the image of the heavenly(Same as Christ!). (2Corinthians 4:3-4) God bless Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Eccl.9:12-16) PS> Please read through ALL the references to understand this 'antichrist' DECEPTION!

How can you talk about the “IMAGE” of the “beast”, when you don't even know what a “beast” is?

Dan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

A beast is a ruling government; the question is, after what government did the “IMAGE” structure it self?
When you figure that out, you also know who the “IMAGE” is.

[Ed J]

Hi Georg,

Glad to see your back with us at H-net!
Irene said you were growing tired of Posting here.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Arnold @ July 02 2010,22:52)

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2010,12:12) This important information needs it's own thread. Hi Everybody, Rev.13:15 And he (Antichrist) had power to give life unto the image of the (Adam) beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.                        Understanding this image ( Click Here) <– Third and Last Post  (And Click Here) In Rev.13:15 the false prophet causes those who don't worship this image of Adam should be killed.   HOW ? By claiming a futuristic (false) flesh return of Jesus; whoever does not worship this image is killed! (John 16:1-3)                      Jesus returned at Pentecost (Click Here) We need to fully understand the difference between the image of Adam and Christ! 1Cor.15:49: And as we have borne the image of the earthy(Like Seth), (Rev. 13:15) we shall also bear the image of the heavenly(Same as Christ!). (2Corinthians 4:3-4) God bless Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Eccl.9:12-16) PS> Please read through ALL the references to understand this 'antichrist' DECEPTION! How can you talk about the “IMAGE” of the “beast”, when you don't even know what a “beast” is? Dan 7:17   These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth. A beast is a ruling government; the question is, after what government did the “IMAGE” structure it self? When you figure that out, you also know who the “IMAGE” is.

Hi Georg,

You shouldn't always take such a negative approach toward disclosure
of Bible Prophecy. Daniel 7:17 makes no mention of an 'image' of any kind.

The image referred to in Rev.13:15 is a FALSE flesh return of Jesus.
To say Jesus has not already come in the flesh is called 'antichrist'! (1John 4:3)
Jesus returned at “Pentecost” in Spirit seated at the right hand of the father. (John 14:23) (Click Here)

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Arnold]

Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2010,23:37)

Quote (Arnold @ July 02 2010,22:52) Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2010,12:12) This important information needs it's own thread. Hi Everybody, Rev.13:15 And he (Antichrist) had power to give life unto the image of the (Adam) beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.                        Understanding this image ( Click Here) <– Third and Last Post  (And Click Here) In Rev.13:15 the false prophet causes those who don't worship this image of Adam should be killed.   HOW ? By claiming a futuristic (false) flesh return of Jesus; whoever does not worship this image is killed! (John 16:1-3)                      Jesus returned at Pentecost (Click Here) We need to fully understand the difference between the image of Adam and Christ! 1Cor.15:49: And as we have borne the image of the earthy(Like Seth), (Rev. 13:15) we shall also bear the image of the heavenly(Same as Christ!). (2Corinthians 4:3-4) God bless Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Eccl.9:12-16) PS> Please read through ALL the references to understand this 'antichrist' DECEPTION! How can you talk about the “IMAGE” of the “beast”, when you don't even know what a “beast” is? Dan 7:17   These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth. A beast is a ruling government; the question is, after what government did the “IMAGE” structure it self? When you figure that out, you also know who the “IMAGE” is. Hi Georg, You shouldn't always take such a negative approach toward disclosure of Bible Prophecy. Daniel 7:17 makes no mention of an 'image' of any kind. The image referred to in Rev.13:15 is a FALSE flesh return of Jesus. To say Jesus has not already come in the flesh is called 'antichrist'! (1John 4:3) Jesus returned at “Pentecost” in Spirit seated at the right hand of the father. (John 14:23) (Click Here) God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

You are clueless when it comes to scriptures, that is evident.
Painting by numbers doesn't help you either.
Read what I said again, if you can't figure it out, I will help.

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2010,17:52)

Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2010,07:06) edj what revelation also could mean is ;a kingdom that would image the truth of God s kingdom and deceit the people to support it and so receive the mark of that kingdom(beast). Pierre Hi Terraricca, Could you explain a little better what you mean? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

the true power of government lays in Gods hands not men,this is a fact established with Adam,Adam did not give the orders but God did.

all along there are records taken it is the intention of God to bring all back to his total control,to do just that ,he introduced a King is name is Christ,he is the true king and representative of God ,

so any image would by deduction, be Clear ,it has to be Satan and is men supported powers or in other words the opposition to Gods kingdom,the illusion of being able to govern.

they are bound to fail,but god use the image to separate men the true believer from the hypocrites,the deceivers.

Pierre

[Arnold]

Quote (terraricca @ July 03 2010,16:43)

Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2010,17:52) Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2010,07:06) edj what revelation also could mean is ;a kingdom that would image the truth of God s kingdom and deceit the people to support it and so receive the mark of that kingdom(beast). Pierre Hi Terraricca, Could you explain a little better what you mean? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj the true power of government lays in Gods hands not men,this is a fact established with Adam,Adam did not give the orders but God did. all along there are records taken it is the intention of God to bring all back to his total control,to do just that ,he introduced a King is name is Christ,he is the true king and representative of God , so any image would  by deduction, be Clear ,it has to be Satan and is men supported powers or in other words the opposition to Gods kingdom,the illusion of being able to govern. they are bound to fail,but god use the image to separate men the true believer from the hypocrites,the deceivers. Pierre

When you don't pay attention to scripture, this is the kind of nonsense you come up with.

[Ed J]

Try and be nice, Georg,

Romans 1:22-25 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed
the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image(Gen.3:5) made like to corruptible man,
and to birds ('rapture'), and fourfooted beasts (their 'sacred calf's'), and creeping things.
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, (2Thess.2:11)
to dishonor their own bodies between [their religious selves]: Who changed the truth of God INTO A LIE,
and worshipped and served the creature (יהשוע) more than the Creator (יהוה), who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

To All,

Rom.8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the
image of his Son(2Cor.4:4), that he might be the firstborn(Col.1:15) among many brethren.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Arnold @ July 04 2010,00:17)

Quote (terraricca @ July 03 2010,16:43) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2010,17:52) Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2010,07:06) edj what revelation also could mean is ;a kingdom that would image the truth of God s kingdom and deceit the people to support it and so receive the mark of that kingdom(beast). Pierre Hi Terraricca, Could you explain a little better what you mean? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj the true power of government lays in Gods hands not men,this is a fact established with Adam,Adam did not give the orders but God did. all along there are records taken it is the intention of God to bring all back to his total control,to do just that ,he introduced a King is name is Christ,he is the true king and representative of God , so any image would  by deduction, be Clear ,it has to be Satan and is men supported powers or in other words the opposition to Gods kingdom,the illusion of being able to govern. they are bound to fail,but god use the image to separate men the true believer from the hypocrites,the deceivers. Pierre When you don't pay attention to scripture, this is the kind of nonsense you come up with.

georg

your comment does not improve mine but it does not show that your are in lighted with more.

Pierre

[Tim Kraft]

Ed J: Finally we totally agree on something. I don't know about all the revelation stuff that I don't find applicable anyway but one of the most important truths for the body of Christ, that you are right on, is that Jesus came again just as he said he would. Jesus is here now for those who accept and believe. If the misguided religious groups manufacture a spectacular event in the sky it would deceive about 95 of all church goers. It is a mass miunderstanding. The worst thing that belief does, is cause a person to think and believe that Jesus insn't here now. Jesus is here, now in the flesh. He is in all who believe. Bless you, TK

[Arnold]

Quote (Ed J @ July 04 2010,12:37)

Try and be nice, Georg, Romans 1:22-25 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image(Gen.3:5) made like to corruptible man, and to birds ('rapture'), and fourfooted beasts (their 'sacred calf's'), and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, (2Thess.2:11) to dishonor their own bodies between [their religious selves]: Who changed the truth of God INTO A LIE, and worshipped and served the creature (יהשוע) more than the Creator (יהוה), who is blessed for ever. Amen. Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

I see you're using the same tactics to avoid answering on a subject YOU started, but know nothing about.

[Ed J]

Hi Georg,

This thread is about an 'image'; NOT a 'government'!

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ July 05 2010,21:25)

Ed J: Finally we totally agree on something. I don't know about all the revelation stuff that I don't find applicable anyway but one of the most important truths for the body of Christ, that you are right on, is that Jesus came again just as he said he would. Jesus is here now for those who accept and believe. If the misguided religious groups manufacture a spectacular event in the sky it would deceive about 95 of all church goers. It is a mass miunderstanding. The worst thing that belief does, is cause a person to think and believe that Jesus insn't here now. Jesus is here, now in the flesh. He is in all who believe. Bless you, TK

Hi Tim,

               YHVH is GOD=117
I'm glad [Our YHVH=117] has revealed this to you!
Jesus returned at “Pentecost”=117 with his Father.
                               (Click Here)             (John 14:23)

                            “YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], and
the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Arnold]

Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2010,05:35)

Hi Georg, This thread is about an 'image'; NOT a 'government'! Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Exactly my point; if you don't know “what” a beast is, how can you know who or what the image of “that” beast is?

[Ed J]

Hi Georg,

Perhaps all these Scriptures will help you to
understand what the image of the beast really is?

Psalm 73:20-22 As a dream when one awaketh; so, O
Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image.
Thus my heart was grieved, and I was pricked in my reins.
So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

In the beginning God created man (Mankind) in God's image. (Gen. 1:26-27)
Since Adams fall, Adam procreated Seth in his fallen nature image. (Gen.3:5)

1Cor.15:49: And as we have borne the image of the earthy(Like Seth), (Rev. 13:15)
we shall also bear the image of the heavenly(Same as Christ!). (2Corinthians 4:3-4)

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[karmarie]

Ed, Jesus returns in his new glorified body, not spirit only, spirit only is exactly the type of gnostic thinking the early church had to fight against! Antichrist thinking..Thats why they made the point that Jesus came…in the flesh….see here…

http://www.letusreason.org/Biblexp104.htm

Now you say….what? The 'image of the beast' is a return of Jesus in the flesh?

[Ed J]

Quote (karmarie @ July 06 2010,09:02)

Ed, Jesus returns in his new glorified body, not spirit only, spirit only is exactly the type of gnostic thinking the early church had to fight against! Antichrist thinking..Thats why they made the point that Jesus came…in the flesh….see here… http://www.letusreason.org/Biblexp104.htm Now you say….what? The 'image of the beast' is a return of Jesus in the flesh?

Hi Karina,

When we die we will see Jesus in his glorified body,
because ours will look just like his! (1 John 3:2)

'The image' is a  FAKE   F A K E     F–A–K–E   flesh return;  THERE WILL BE NO FLESH RETURN !
Jesus returned with the Father at His right hand; this occurred at “Pentecost”!

            The Kingdom's GOD=151

The Facts are: The Bible was penned over a 2,000 year time span by 40 different people.
Translated into Greek by (an avg of) 70 translators (Septuagint Bible) and later translated
into English by (an avg of) 50 translators (AKJV Bible); matching the 120 in the upper room,
the first to bring the Good news of the “Kingdom of God”=120 to the masses. [70+50=120]
In every instance, these FACTS are markers that can be labeled as non-random signatures.

             “The Latter Rain”=151
            “Feast of Booths“=151
          (Feast [of] Tabernacles=151)
           “Jesus is Lord”=151, because
          “HolySpirit”=151 (Jesus' Father) is…
         “The LORD JEHOVAH”=151
             Click Here for more

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[karmarie]

No Ed thats not true. Jesus will return in the flesh in his new glorified body, every eye will see (No thats not 'spiritual eye' as the JWs say either)…

At his return the world and the works on it will be burnt up, that hasnt happened yet.

[Ed J]

Quote (karmarie @ July 06 2010,09:49)

No Ed thats not true. 1) Jesus will return in the flesh in his new glorified body, every eye will see (No thats not 'spiritual eye' as the JWs say either)… 2) At his return the world and the works on it will be burnt up, that hasnt happened yet.

Hi Karmarie,

You need to study a bit more, but NOT the 'systems of religion'!
The systems of religion and traditions of men do communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.

1) Just because you say it DOESN'T make it come true?
    Where is 'your' Scriptural support? (Isaiah 5:18-21)

2) What gets 'burned up' is the 'rudiments'! (2Peter 3:10-13)
    Elements: Greek #4747 στοιχεῖον stoy-khi'-on:
    the elements of knowledge, principally: Rudiments.
    Rudiments: A fundamental skill, something uniformed,    
    an arrangement unable to perform it's normal function.

God bless (Ecclesiastes 9:12-16)
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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