The image of the beast.

  • This topic is empty.
Viewing 20 posts - 21 through 40 (of 50 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #388900
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2014,16:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 14 2014,15:53)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2014,15:46)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The Christian nations have beat their swords into plowshares.   (see Daniel 7:27)

    God bless
    Ed J


    We are making more and more weapons of war.
    Why do you say the opposite?
    We have not changed swords into plowshares.
    No one can see any peace.
    They are only talking about peace.

    Please explain.


    Hi Wakeup,

    The Christian nations of the world have been at peace with each other for over a hundred years now.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed

    At peace with each other? Too bad they enjoy killing and torturing innocent people of non christian nations. Does that make them peaceful still in your eyes? Did their weapons of war turn into farming tools to feed them, or were they used to kill them?

    #388903
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ June 14 2014,16:38)

    Quote (Resting @ June 14 2014,13:15)
    Wakeup,

    The second beast has two horns, not one.

    How do you account for that.

    Res.


    Resting

    Wakeup already explained it to you.
    The vision in Daniel is a little horn coming up.  Obviously means LEADER, coming up out of the 10.
    The vision is Rev is a leader with 2 horns.  This little horn has 2 horns now.  He is a world leader, and a spiritual leader now. He is in charge of both.


    It is one of the horns of the ten of the first beast which is healed, not the two horns of the second beast.

    Is it not so?

    Res.

    #388906
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ June 14 2014,17:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2014,16:41)
    Hi Journey42,

    Are you going to answer his question and tell us what you think the two horns are?


    Ed

    I said he was a world leader and a spiritual leader.  In charge of both.


    Hi Journey42,

    One horn a world leader and the other horn a spiritual leader. OK, so
    do you have any evidence that your interpretation is correct?
    You do know that Muhammad was both, do you not?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #388912
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Resting @ June 14 2014,17:34)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 14 2014,16:38)

    Quote (Resting @ June 14 2014,13:15)
    Wakeup,

    The second beast has two horns, not one.

    How do you account for that.

    Res.


    Resting

    Wakeup already explained it to you.
    The vision in Daniel is a little horn coming up.  Obviously means LEADER, coming up out of the 10.
    The vision is Rev is a leader with 2 horns.  This little horn has 2 horns now.  He is a world leader, and a spiritual leader now. He is in charge of both.


    It is one of the horns of the ten of the first beast which is healed, not the two horns of the second beast.

    Is it not so?

    Res.


    Resting.

    Revelation 13:12
    ***And he exerciseth all the power of the *first beast*
    before him***,
    ***and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein***

    ***to worship the first beast***,
    ***whose deadly wound was healed********

    wakeup.

    #388926
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote
    It is one of the horns of the ten of the first beast which is healed, not the two horns of the second beast.

    Is it not so?


    Resting, it is not so.

    Daniel 7:24   And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

    There's two beasts described in Rev.  The first beast coming out of the sea consists of 10 kings.  The second beast coming out of the earth one man, the false prophet.
    The two beasts work together.  The 10 kings are ruling the empire of the last days.  They have not shown themselves yet, but are here at work planning, scheming, controlling behind the scenes.
    When God says the time is right, he will allow the 10 kings to fulfil prophesy.  They will introduce new harsher laws.  They will rule by themselves for only a short while, but soon after that the false prophet will emerge. He will be their leader.  He will be all for them, and they will be all for him.  Together they will take action to enforce the Mark of the Beast on all.
    He is called the False prophet because he poses as a prophet, a spiritual leader, then he will pose as God.  He has the power  to persecute anyone who refuses to take the Mark of the Beast which the beast (10 kings) before him have already set up.  

    So you see he is in charge of the spiritual, and the secular.  For somebody to have absolute power over every single person on this earth and persecute them if they do not obey the new laws is a secular leader.  For someone to cause every single person on this earth to worship the first beast (obey) and pose as God during the meantime doing miracles is a spiritual leader.
    When the False prophet emerges, that 7th kingdom will turn into the eighth kingdom.

    The image in Daniel describes the major empires starting from the head, Babylon.  
    His breast and arms of silver is the Medo/Persian empire.
    His belly and thighs of brass was the Grecian empire.
    Well we all know what happened after that.  Alexander died, and his kingdom was divided between his four generals.  Out of one of them came the Roman Empire.  It ruled the longest, and goes all the way down the legs made of Iron.
    By the time we get to the feet, a different body part, it is mixed with iron and clay.  The iron is there (Rome) but mixed with clay, other weaker nations.  This would be the empire we have today which came out of Rome, the British empire.
    The ten toes are part of the feet.

    Daniel 2:41   And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

    It does not say 10 toes, but we can count how many toes there should be.  There are 10.  So the 10 kings are this last lot, right at the end of the image.  It's this last empire that will be destroyed.  And out of this last empire will emerge their new leader, the false prophet,…the little horn, the second beast with the two horns. He is one with the 10.  They work together, and we get this from the other scriptures to see the picture more clearly.

    #388971
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ June 14 2014,16:38)

    Quote (Resting @ June 14 2014,13:15)
    Wakeup,

    The second beast has two horns, not one.

    How do you account for that.

    Res.


    Resting

    Wakeup already explained it to you.
    The vision in Daniel is a little horn coming up.  Obviously means LEADER, coming up out of the 10.
    The vision is Rev is a leader with 2 horns.  This little horn has 2 horns now.  He is a world leader, and a spiritual leader now. He is in charge of both.


    Journey,

    Are you saying the second beast is one of the ten horns of the first beast of Rev.13.

    The second beast is like unto the first beast so how can the second beast be like one of the horns of the first beast?

    Res.

    #388972
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ June 15 2014,01:03)

    Quote
    It is one of the horns of the ten of the first beast which is healed, not the two horns of the second beast.

    Is it not so?


    Resting, it is not so.

    Daniel 7:24   And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

    There's two beasts described in Rev.  The first beast coming out of the sea consists of 10 kings.  The second beast coming out of the earth one man, the false prophet.
    The two beasts work together.  The 10 kings are ruling the empire of the last days.  They have not shown themselves yet, but are here at work planning, scheming, controlling behind the scenes.
    When God says the time is right, he will allow the 10 kings to fulfil prophesy.  They will introduce new harsher laws.  They will rule by themselves for only a short while, but soon after that the false prophet will emerge. He will be their leader.  He will be all for them, and they will be all for him.  Together they will take action to enforce the Mark of the Beast on all.
    He is called the False prophet because he poses as a prophet, a spiritual leader, then he will pose as God.  He has the power  to persecute anyone who refuses to take the Mark of the Beast which the beast (10 kings) before him have already set up.  

    So you see he is in charge of the spiritual, and the secular.  For somebody to have absolute power over every single person on this earth and persecute them if they do not obey the new laws is a secular leader.  For someone to cause every single person on this earth to worship the first beast (obey) and pose as God during the meantime doing miracles is a spiritual leader.
    When the False prophet emerges, that 7th kingdom will turn into the eighth kingdom.

    The image in Daniel describes the major empires starting from the head, Babylon.  
    His breast and arms of silver is the Medo/Persian empire.
    His belly and thighs of brass was the Grecian empire.
    Well we all know what happened after that.  Alexander died, and his kingdom was divided between his four generals.  Out of one of them came the Roman Empire.  It ruled the longest, and goes all the way down the legs made of Iron.
    By the time we get to the feet, a different body part, it is mixed with iron and clay.  The iron is there (Rome) but mixed with clay, other weaker nations.  This would be the empire we have today which came out of Rome, the British empire.
    The ten toes are part of the feet.

    Daniel 2:41   And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

    It does not say 10 toes, but we can count how many toes there should be.  There are 10.  So the 10 kings are this last lot, right at the end of the image.  It's this last empire that will be destroyed.  And out of this last empire will emerge their new leader, the false prophet,…the little horn, the second beast with the two horns. He is one with the 10.  They work together, and we get this from the other scriptures to see the picture more clearly.


    I must have missed this page.

    I can see the little horn comes out from among the ten kings, and that says to me that the Jews and the RCC with fallen evangelicals are the second beast.

    It is one of the heads of the ten kings which men worship as god.

    Further to that , it is one of the ten kings who is the little horn because it is one them which head is healed and it can only mean the like of Ahab as king over the ten while the two heads of the second beast are like a lamb, but of course are goats.

    Res.

    The scripture–

    Rev 13:11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon.
    Rev 13:12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

    #388980
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote
    I must have missed this page.

    I can see the little horn comes out from among the ten kings, and that says to me that the Jews and the RCC with fallen evangelicals are the second beast.


    I see this 2nd beast as a man.
    Daniel 7:20   And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

     2 Thessalonians 2:3   Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    Quote
    It is one of the heads of the ten kings which men worship as god.


    The 7 heads are only empires.  7 major kingdoms ruling throughout time, starting with Egypt.  till the last.  It's the last head (empire) that produces the 10 horns.  In other words, the last empire has 10 kings ruling as one.

    Quote
    Further to that , it is one of the ten kings who is the little horn because it is one them which head is healed and it can only mean the like of Ahab as king over the ten while the two heads of the second beast are like a lamb, but of course are goats.


    The leader comes out of the 10, but is not one of them. Don't forget he will be doing miracles, and posing as God.  In order for all peoples and religions to accept him at first, he would have to appear like a prophet.  All religions are waiting for their messiah's to return, not just the christian religion.  He will fit the bill for all and be persuasive because of the miracles he will perform.  There are only 2 who get thrown into the lake of fire on Christ's return.  The beast (10) AND the False Prophet.  

    Revelation 19:20   And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

    So here we have our two beasts

    Quote
    Res.

    The scripture–

    Rev 13:11  Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon.
    Rev 13:12  And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.


    The first beast is the system of the (10 kings) …New World Order.  and the second is the man (False Prophet).
    The False prophet causes us to worship (obey) the first beast  (new system).  The first beast is his man power.  His army.  His laws, and have the power to take us for refusing their laws.  The false prophet gives the command.

    #389116
    Resting
    Participant

    Journey,

    The second beast can not be a head which was healed of the first beast.

    Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
    Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

    Res.

    #389137
    journey42
    Participant

    Hi Resting

    That's right, and I am not implying that.  I said the 2nd beast who comes up out of the earth is a man, the false prophet.

    He, the false prophet is telling us to worship the first beast, before him (the 10 horns) who come out out of the 7th head. (the last head), this kingdom.  This last kingdom/empire is the head that was wounded and healed.  We are still under the British Empire today.  Many do not realise it, as they rule behind the scenes. The british empire was flattened during the 2nd world war, but have come up strong again.  They are so strong and powerful we don't even know they are there.  They make our laws, and change our laws.  They will change the laws again to a new system, but before they can bring in the new system, they must crash this existing one first.

    So, him, the false prophet telling us to worship the first beast before him just simply means to obey their laws, and new system.   This new system will issue everyman with an identification number, the Mark of the Beast.  The first beast introduces it as a good solution and system, the second beast enforces it, because by the time he is raised to full power, he has the authority to give the command.

    The first beast (the 10) have their armies, and police.  They have the power in their hands to put us in jail, or kill us for not obeying their laws.  We who refuse will be seen as trouble makers.  We will refuse the mark, and go hungry.   Our children will starve.  We will be homeless. They will be hunting us down like sheep for the slaughter.  We will be seen as the scum of the earth.  Poor, destitute, dirty, under privileged.  They will make up all sorts of lies about us, that we are neglecting our children etc. The people will not want to see us in their streets, as we will be looked upon as a type of pollution.  If they take us in, we must go knowing they falsely accused Christ before us, and took his freedom away also.  We will receive our reward when Christ returns.  Everlasting life. Christ will have great revenge for what they did to us and all those christians before us, and they of Babylon who hated God and his children will surely pay for their crimes.

    In the end, we will be the better ones off, for we will get our lives back, but they will face the lake of fire.

    #389150
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ June 17 2014,11:59)
    Hi Resting

    That's right, and I am not implying that.  I said the 2nd beast who comes up out of the earth is a man, the false prophet.

    He, the false prophet is telling us to worship the first beast, before him (the 10 horns) who come out out of the 7th head. (the last head), this kingdom.  This last kingdom/empire is the head that was wounded and healed.  We are still under the British Empire today.  Many do not realise it, as they rule behind the scenes. The british empire was flattened during the 2nd world war, but have come up strong again.  They are so strong and powerful we don't even know they are there.  They make our laws, and change our laws.  They will change the laws again to a new system, but before they can bring in the new system, they must crash this existing one first.

    So, him, the false prophet telling us to worship the first beast before him just simply means to obey their laws, and new system.   This new system will issue everyman with an identification number, the Mark of the Beast.  The first beast introduces it as a good solution and system, the second beast enforces it, because by the time he is raised to full power, he has the authority to give the command.

    The first beast (the 10) have their armies, and police.  They have the power in their hands to put us in jail, or kill us for not obeying their laws.  We who refuse will be seen as trouble makers.  We will refuse the mark, and go hungry.   Our children will starve.  We will be homeless. They will be hunting us down like sheep for the slaughter.  We will be seen as the scum of the earth.  Poor, destitute, dirty, under privileged.  They will make up all sorts of lies about us, that we are neglecting our children etc. The people will not want to see us in their streets, as we will be looked upon as a type of pollution.  If they take us in, we must go knowing they falsely accused Christ before us, and took his freedom away also.  We will receive our reward when Christ returns.  Everlasting life. Christ will have great revenge for what they did to us and all those christians before us, and they of Babylon who hated God and his children will surely pay for their crimes.

    In the end, we will be the better ones off, for we will get our lives back, but they will face the lake of fire.


    Journey,

    Where are the scriptures describing the second beast being one man?

    Res.

    #389159
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Revelation 19:20
    ***And the beast was taken,

    ***and with him the false prophet*** ***that wrought miracles before him***,

    ***with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast***,
    ***and them that worshipped his image***.

    ***These both** were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
    with brimstone***.

    Beast and false prophet. Not false prophets.

    wakeup.

    #389163
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,17:08)
    Revelation 19:20  
    ***And the beast was taken,

    ***and with him the false prophet*** ***that wrought miracles before him***,

    ***with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast***,
    ***and them that worshipped his image***.

    ***These both**    were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
         with brimstone***.

    Beast and false prophet. Not false prophets.

    wakeup.


    So you are saying the first beast of Rev.13 is one person,

    and the second beast of Rev.13 is one person.

    Res.

    #389164
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Resting @ June 17 2014,20:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,17:08)
    Revelation 19:20  
    ***And the beast was taken,

    ***and with him the false prophet*** ***that wrought miracles before him***,

    ***with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast***,
    ***and them that worshipped his image***.

    ***These both**    were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
         with brimstone***.

    Beast and false prophet. Not false prophets.

    wakeup.


    So you are saying the first beast of Rev.13 is one person,

    and the second beast of Rev.13 is one person.

    Res.


    Resting.

    1.The beast is the kingdom,consisting of a system,
    and ten kings
    2.The false prophet is one men.He rules them all.
    3.The kingdom is ruled by the false prophet.
    4.The ten kings have chosen Him to rule the kingdom.
    5.The beast and the false prophet will be cast into the lake
    of fire.

    The beast consisting of ten kings,and its whole system;
    and the false prophet; the chief.

    wakeup.

    #389261
    journey42
    Participant

    Hi Resting,

    There are two beasts into the lake of fire.
    1. The Beast coming out of the sea
    2. The Beast coming out of the earth
     
    Revelation 13:1   And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

    Revelation 17:12   And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet (NO KINGDOM YET, DURING JOHN'S DAY); but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. (3 1/2 years)

    Revelation 17:13   These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

    Quote
    Where are the scriptures describing the second beast being one man?


    2 Thessalonians 2:3   Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    2 Thessalonians 2:4   Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

    Daniel 7:20   And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

    Daniel 11:38   But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
    (THIS TELLS ME HE IS A JEW, BECAUSE WHEN GOD SPEAKS OF “FATHERS” HE IS ALWAYS REFERRING TO ISRAEL)

    #389290
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,21:59)

    Quote (Resting @ June 17 2014,20:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,17:08)
    Revelation 19:20  
    ***And the beast was taken,

    ***and with him the false prophet*** ***that wrought miracles before him***,

    ***with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast***,
    ***and them that worshipped his image***.

    ***These both**    were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
         with brimstone***.

    Beast and false prophet. Not false prophets.

    wakeup.


    So you are saying the first beast of Rev.13 is one person,

    and the second beast of Rev.13 is one person.

    Res.


    Resting.

    1.The beast is the kingdom,consisting of a system,
      and ten kings
    2.The false prophet is one men.He rules them all.
    3.The kingdom is ruled by the false prophet.
    4.The ten kings have chosen Him to rule the kingdom.
    5.The beast and the false prophet will be cast into the lake  
      of fire.

    The beast consisting of ten kings,and its whole system;
    and the false prophet; the chief.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup.

    You must claim the Bride is one person too by your logic.

    Res.

    #389291
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ June 18 2014,22:52)
    Hi Resting,

    There are two beasts into the lake of fire.
    1. The Beast coming out of the sea
    2. The Beast coming out of the earth
     
    Revelation 13:1   And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

    Revelation 17:12   And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet (NO KINGDOM YET, DURING JOHN'S DAY); but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. (3 1/2 years)

    Revelation 17:13   These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

    Quote
    Where are the scriptures describing the second beast being one man?


    2 Thessalonians 2:3   Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    2 Thessalonians 2:4   Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

    Daniel 7:20   And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

    Daniel 11:38   But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
    (THIS TELLS ME HE IS A JEW, BECAUSE WHEN GOD SPEAKS OF “FATHERS” HE IS ALWAYS REFERRING TO ISRAEL)


    You have the a head of the first beast as being the second beast.

    that is incorrect.

    I will be away for a while.

    #389321
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Resting @ June 19 2014,08:27)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,21:59)

    Quote (Resting @ June 17 2014,20:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,17:08)
    Revelation 19:20  
    ***And the beast was taken,

    ***and with him the false prophet*** ***that wrought miracles before him***,

    ***with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast***,
    ***and them that worshipped his image***.

    ***These both**    were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
         with brimstone***.

    Beast and false prophet. Not false prophets.

    wakeup.


    So you are saying the first beast of Rev.13 is one person,

    and the second beast of Rev.13 is one person.

    Res.


    Resting.

    1.The beast is the kingdom,consisting of a system,
      and ten kings
    2.The false prophet is one men.He rules them all.
    3.The kingdom is ruled by the false prophet.
    4.The ten kings have chosen Him to rule the kingdom.
    5.The beast and the false prophet will be cast into the lake  
      of fire.

    The beast consisting of ten kings,and its whole system;
    and the false prophet; the chief.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup.

    You must claim the Bride is one person too by your logic.

    Res.


    The bride is another topic.

    1.The beast that came out of the sea,is a kingdom;
    and has ten kings. A conglomerate of ten kings.

    2. The second beast came out of the earth,he is the false
    prophet that will take control,of that kingdom.
    He will rule over the ten kings.

    3.He is also called :The son of perdition with all the lying
    wonders; and he call himself god.2thess 2.

    4.The first beast, and the second beast, (the false prophet) will be cast into the lake of fire at the coming.

    wakeup.

    #389770
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 19 2014,15:39)

    Quote (Resting @ June 19 2014,08:27)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,21:59)

    Quote (Resting @ June 17 2014,20:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,17:08)
    Revelation 19:20  
    ***And the beast was taken,

    ***and with him the false prophet*** ***that wrought miracles before him***,

    ***with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast***,
    ***and them that worshipped his image***.

    ***These both**    were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
         with brimstone***.

    Beast and false prophet. Not false prophets.

    wakeup.


    So you are saying the first beast of Rev.13 is one person,

    and the second beast of Rev.13 is one person.

    Res.


    Resting.

    1.The beast is the kingdom,consisting of a system,
      and ten kings
    2.The false prophet is one men.He rules them all.
    3.The kingdom is ruled by the false prophet.
    4.The ten kings have chosen Him to rule the kingdom.
    5.The beast and the false prophet will be cast into the lake  
      of fire.

    The beast consisting of ten kings,and its whole system;
    and the false prophet; the chief.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup.

    You must claim the Bride is one person too by your logic.

    Res.


    The bride is another topic.

    1.The beast that came out of the sea,is a kingdom;
      and has ten kings. A conglomerate of ten kings.

    2. The second beast came out of the earth,he is the false  
       prophet that will take control,of that kingdom.
       He will rule over the ten kings.

    3.He is also called :The son of perdition with all the lying  
      wonders; and he call himself god.2thess 2.

    4.The first beast, and the second beast, (the false prophet) will be cast into the lake of fire at the coming.

    wakeup.


    No,

    because the second beast is like unto the first beast.

    One of the (7)heads of the first beast is healed of its deadly wound,

    The second beast has two horns, not one.

    As the first beast has a multitude of peoples so does the second beast.

    Res.

    #389780
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Resting @ June 24 2014,20:59)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 19 2014,15:39)

    Quote (Resting @ June 19 2014,08:27)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,21:59)

    Quote (Resting @ June 17 2014,20:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,17:08)
    Revelation 19:20  
    ***And the beast was taken,

    ***and with him the false prophet*** ***that wrought miracles before him***,

    ***with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast***,
    ***and them that worshipped his image***.

    ***These both**    were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
         with brimstone***.

    Beast and false prophet. Not false prophets.

    wakeup.


    So you are saying the first beast of Rev.13 is one person,

    and the second beast of Rev.13 is one person.

    Res.


    Resting.

    1.The beast is the kingdom,consisting of a system,
      and ten kings
    2.The false prophet is one men.He rules them all.
    3.The kingdom is ruled by the false prophet.
    4.The ten kings have chosen Him to rule the kingdom.
    5.The beast and the false prophet will be cast into the lake  
      of fire.

    The beast consisting of ten kings,and its whole system;
    and the false prophet; the chief.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup.

    You must claim the Bride is one person too by your logic.

    Res.


    The bride is another topic.

    1.The beast that came out of the sea,is a kingdom;
      and has ten kings. A conglomerate of ten kings.

    2. The second beast came out of the earth,he is the false  
       prophet that will take control,of that kingdom.
       He will rule over the ten kings.

    3.He is also called :The son of perdition with all the lying  
      wonders; and he call himself god.2thess 2.

    4.The first beast, and the second beast, (the false prophet) will be cast into the lake of fire at the coming.

    wakeup.


    No,

    because the second beast is like unto the first beast.

    One of the (7)heads of the first beast is healed of its deadly wound,

    The second beast has two horns, not one.

    As the first beast has a multitude of peoples so does the second beast.

    Res.


    Resting.

    Revelation 19:20
    ***And the beast was taken***, (THE 10 HORNED BEAST).
    ***and with him the false prophet*** (ONE MAN).
    ***that wrought miracles before him***,
    ***with which *HE* deceived them that had received the
    mark of the beast***,
    ***and them that worshipped *HIS* image***.
    ***These *BOTH* were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
    with brimstone***.
    (BOTH;THE 10HORNED BEAST, AND THE FALSE PROPHET)

    THE FALSE PROPHET CAME OUT OF THE EARTH, AND HAS
    TWO HORNS. HE IS IN CHARGE OF THE *SECULAR* AND THE *SPIRITUAL*.(IN CHARGE OF BOTH).
    THE MAN THAT CALLED HIMSELF GOD.

    wakeup.

Viewing 20 posts - 21 through 40 (of 50 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

© 1999 - 2024 Heaven Net

Navigation

© 1999 - 2023 - Heaven Net
or

Log in with your credentials

or    

Forgot your details?

or

Create Account