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  • #354133
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Colter @ May 24 2013,11:37)
    Oh good heavens! Lucifer fell before Adam and Eve ever arrived on earth! It's past tense, the crafty beast was cursed for his deception of Eve. …..”you who fooled the whole world.”

    Colter


    Colter.

    Thats maybe what the ub says;but not what the scriptures say.

    wakeup.

    #354132
    Spock
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    Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2013,11:46)

    Quote (Colter @ May 24 2013,11:37)
    Oh good heavens! Lucifer fell before Adam and Eve ever arrived on earth! It's past tense, the crafty beast was cursed for his deception of Eve. …..”you who fooled the whole world.”

    Colter


    Colter.

    Thats maybe what the ub says;but not what the scriptures say.

    wakeup.


    That's exactly what the scripture says, dose your bible have a Genesis?

    The beast was already evil, already working against Gods will. God condemns the beast.

    #354131
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 25 2013,05:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2013,11:46)

    Quote (Colter @ May 24 2013,11:37)
    Oh good heavens! Lucifer fell before Adam and Eve ever arrived on earth! It's past tense, the crafty beast was cursed for his deception of Eve. …..”you who fooled the whole world.”

    Colter


    Colter.

    Thats maybe what the ub says;but not what the scriptures say.

    wakeup.


    That's exactly what the scripture says,  dose your bible have a Genesis?

    The beast was already evil, already working  against Gods will. God condemns the beast.


    Colter.

    Can you show some scriptures please?

    wakeup.

    #354141
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2013,09:10)

    Quote (Colter @ May 25 2013,05:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2013,11:46)

    Quote (Colter @ May 24 2013,11:37)
    Oh good heavens! Lucifer fell before Adam and Eve ever arrived on earth! It's past tense, the crafty beast was cursed for his deception of Eve. …..”you who fooled the whole world.”

    Colter


    Colter.

    Thats maybe what the ub says;but not what the scriptures say.

    wakeup.


    That's exactly what the scripture says,  dose your bible have a Genesis?

    The beast was already evil, already working  against Gods will. God condemns the beast.


    Colter.

    Can you show some scriptures please?

    wakeup.


    3 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”

    13 And the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

    The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

    14 So the Lord God said to the serpent:

    “Because you have done this,
    You are cursed more than all cattle,
    And more than every beast of the field;

    Colter

    #354130
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 25 2013,12:47)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2013,09:10)

    Quote (Colter @ May 25 2013,05:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2013,11:46)

    Quote (Colter @ May 24 2013,11:37)
    Oh good heavens! Lucifer fell before Adam and Eve ever arrived on earth! It's past tense, the crafty beast was cursed for his deception of Eve. …..”you who fooled the whole world.”

    Colter


    Colter.

    Thats maybe what the ub says;but not what the scriptures say.

    wakeup.


    That's exactly what the scripture says,  dose your bible have a Genesis?

    The beast was already evil, already working  against Gods will. God condemns the beast.


    Colter.

    Can you show some scriptures please?

    wakeup.


    3 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”

    13 And the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

    The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

    14 So the Lord God said to the serpent:

    “Because you have done this,
    You are cursed more than all cattle,
    And more than every beast of the field;

    Colter


    Colter.

    And the serpent is?

    wakeup.

    #354195
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2013,15:24)

    Quote (Colter @ May 25 2013,12:47)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2013,09:10)

    Quote (Colter @ May 25 2013,05:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2013,11:46)

    Quote (Colter @ May 24 2013,11:37)
    Oh good heavens! Lucifer fell before Adam and Eve ever arrived on earth! It's past tense, the crafty beast was cursed for his deception of Eve. …..”you who fooled the whole world.”

    Colter


    Colter.

    Thats maybe what the ub says;but not what the scriptures say.

    wakeup.


    That's exactly what the scripture says,  dose your bible have a Genesis?

    The beast was already evil, already working  against Gods will. God condemns the beast.


    Colter.

    Can you show some scriptures please?

    wakeup.


    3 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”

    13 And the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

    The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

    14 So the Lord God said to the serpent:

    “Because you have done this,
    You are cursed more than all cattle,
    And more than every beast of the field;

    Colter


    Colter.

    And the serpent is?

    wakeup.


    The fallen “prince of this world” he was eventually defeated by the incarnate Son (proven a liar). Forgiveness was offered to the rebels, a time lag of justice was extended to them for an age, but thr bond servant of sin is not likely to abide in the Fathers house forever. An onlooking universe was stunned and beyond satisfied that the rebels had been offered every opurtunity for repentance. Many fallen angels and other orders of celestials that had been lead into sin by the rebels did repent, they were “saved” and have entered rehabilitation.

    Lucifer, Satan, Caligastia (the prince of this world) Beelzebub, Nod, Dalimatia, all of these rejected the mercy of the Son. At the time of Jesus All were defrocked, striped of power. Their place in heaven can be found no more.

    All that remains is the byproduct of their evil work.

    Colter

    #354196
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 26 2013,02:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2013,15:24)

    Quote (Colter @ May 25 2013,12:47)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2013,09:10)

    Quote (Colter @ May 25 2013,05:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2013,11:46)

    Quote (Colter @ May 24 2013,11:37)
    Oh good heavens! Lucifer fell before Adam and Eve ever arrived on earth! It's past tense, the crafty beast was cursed for his deception of Eve. …..”you who fooled the whole world.”

    Colter


    Colter.

    Thats maybe what the ub says;but not what the scriptures say.

    wakeup.


    That's exactly what the scripture says,  dose your bible have a Genesis?

    The beast was already evil, already working  against Gods will. God condemns the beast.


    Colter.

    Can you show some scriptures please?

    wakeup.


    3 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”

    13 And the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

    The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

    14 So the Lord God said to the serpent:

    “Because you have done this,
    You are cursed more than all cattle,
    And more than every beast of the field;

    Colter


    Colter.

    And the serpent is?

    wakeup.


    The fallen “prince of this world”  he was eventually defeated by the incarnate Son (proven a liar). Forgiveness was offered to the rebels, a time lag of justice was extended to them for an age, but thr bond servant of sin is not likely to abide in the Fathers house forever. An onlooking universe was stunned and beyond satisfied that the rebels had been offered every opurtunity for repentance. Many fallen angels and other orders of celestials that had been lead into sin by the rebels did repent, they were “saved” and have entered rehabilitation.

    Lucifer, Satan, Caligastia (the prince of this world) Beelzebub, Nod, Dalimatia, all of these rejected the mercy of the Son. At the time of Jesus All were defrocked, striped of power. Their place in heaven can be found no more.

    All that remains is the byproduct of their evil work.

    Colter


    Colter.

    What I gather is; that the serpent is the prince of this world
    and he is also lucifer and satan.
    Am I correct?

    wakeup.

    #354197
    Spock
    Participant

    No, the UB revealed that there would be a chain of authority under the Son “Michael” who is the co-creator or Father of his local universe creation of 10,000,000 inhabited

    After The eternal creator Son Michael departed from his Paradice Origen and embarked upon this creation his first creative act was the birth of Gabriel, his chief executive. Then many other orders of administrative beings all serving for the plan of the unseen Paradice Father, the eternal God of all reality.

    This is important—–> created ascendant beings such as Lucifer and his assistant Satan live by faith in the unseen Father in Paradice. They know their creator Son Michael, but the Father would be a matter of Faith.

    What Isiah saw in his vision or prophesy was Lucifer falling in love with himself, in his own brilliance, loosing faith in the Father, rebelling against the Son, raising himself above authority, attempting a coup de etat, attempting to make himself “God of the rebel worlds”

    38 worlds in all swung over to Lucifers cause. Satan made the rounds to convince the resident administrators of each world to join the cause of liberty. “There was war in heaven” an ideological fath war, a war of allegiance. Our world was cut off, quarentined from the planetary circuits. The rebellion was confined to our local system.

    You asked about the prince of this world, this invisible administrators name was Prince Caligastia. He was the crafty beast who thwarted the redemption mission of Adam and Eve.

    This unspeakable betrayal by the evil ones of their trust is difficult for man to accept or comprehend. In fact many bright celestials and angels were swept up in the rebellion for the sheer fact that they could not conceive that Lucifer would or could mislead them.

    To those under the authority of lucifer it was almost like the Son of God misleading people. That's how despicable it was. He attacked every order of being.

    Colter

    #354198
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 26 2013,11:29)
    No, the UB revealed that there would be a chain of authority under the Son “Michael” who is the co-creator or Father of his local universe creation  of 10,000,000 inhabited

    After The eternal creator Son Michael departed from his Paradice Origen and embarked upon this creation his first creative act was the birth of Gabriel, his chief executive. Then many other orders of administrative beings all serving for the plan of the unseen Paradice Father, the eternal God of all reality.

    This is important—–> created ascendant beings such as Lucifer and his assistant Satan live by faith in the unseen Father in Paradice. They know their creator Son Michael, but the Father would be a matter of Faith.

    What Isiah saw in his vision or prophesy was Lucifer falling in love with himself, in his own brilliance, loosing faith in the Father, rebelling against the Son, raising himself above authority, attempting a coup de etat, attempting to make himself “God of the rebel worlds”

    38 worlds in all swung over to Lucifers cause. Satan made the rounds to convince the resident administrators of each world to join the cause of liberty. “There was war in heaven” an ideological fath war, a war of allegiance. Our world was cut off, quarentined from the planetary circuits. The rebellion was confined to our local system.

    You asked about the prince of this world, this invisible administrators name was Prince Caligastia. He was the crafty beast who thwarted the redemption mission of Adam and Eve.

    This unspeakable betrayal by the evil ones of their trust is difficult for man to accept or comprehend. In fact many bright celestials and angels were swept up in the rebellion for the sheer fact that they could not conceive that Lucifer would or could mislead them.

    To those under the authority of lucifer it was almost like the Son of God misleading people. That's how despicable it was. He attacked every order of being.

    Colter


    Colter.

    This teaching is so different to the bible, and Jesus.
    How can you accept this, and also accept Jesus.
    You are compromising the word of God.

    wakeup.

    #354199
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 26 2013,14:45)

    Quote (Colter @ May 26 2013,11:29)
    No, the UB revealed that there would be a chain of authority under the Son “Michael” who is the co-creator or Father of his local universe creation  of 10,000,000 inhabited

    After The eternal creator Son Michael departed from his Paradice Origen and embarked upon this creation his first creative act was the birth of Gabriel, his chief executive. Then many other orders of administrative beings all serving for the plan of the unseen Paradice Father, the eternal God of all reality.

    This is important—–> created ascendant beings such as Lucifer and his assistant Satan live by faith in the unseen Father in Paradice. They know their creator Son Michael, but the Father would be a matter of Faith.

    What Isiah saw in his vision or prophesy was Lucifer falling in love with himself, in his own brilliance, loosing faith in the Father, rebelling against the Son, raising himself above authority, attempting a coup de etat, attempting to make himself “God of the rebel worlds”

    38 worlds in all swung over to Lucifers cause. Satan made the rounds to convince the resident administrators of each world to join the cause of liberty. “There was war in heaven” an ideological fath war, a war of allegiance. Our world was cut off, quarentined from the planetary circuits. The rebellion was confined to our local system.

    You asked about the prince of this world, this invisible administrators name was Prince Caligastia. He was the crafty beast who thwarted the redemption mission of Adam and Eve.

    This unspeakable betrayal by the evil ones of their trust is difficult for man to accept or comprehend. In fact many bright celestials and angels were swept up in the rebellion for the sheer fact that they could not conceive that Lucifer would or could mislead them.

    To those under the authority of lucifer it was almost like the Son of God misleading people. That's how despicable it was. He attacked every order of being.

    Colter


    Colter.

    This teaching is so different to the bible, and Jesus.
    How can you accept this, and also accept Jesus.
    You are compromising the word of God.

    wakeup.


    Christians dont realize how different the teachings of Jesus was to the beliefs of the Jews.

    Stay with the Bible.

    Colter

    #354200
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 26 2013,22:10)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 26 2013,14:45)

    Quote (Colter @ May 26 2013,11:29)
    No, the UB revealed that there would be a chain of authority under the Son “Michael” who is the co-creator or Father of his local universe creation  of 10,000,000 inhabited

    After The eternal creator Son Michael departed from his Paradice Origen and embarked upon this creation his first creative act was the birth of Gabriel, his chief executive. Then many other orders of administrative beings all serving for the plan of the unseen Paradice Father, the eternal God of all reality.

    This is important—–> created ascendant beings such as Lucifer and his assistant Satan live by faith in the unseen Father in Paradice. They know their creator Son Michael, but the Father would be a matter of Faith.

    What Isiah saw in his vision or prophesy was Lucifer falling in love with himself, in his own brilliance, loosing faith in the Father, rebelling against the Son, raising himself above authority, attempting a coup de etat, attempting to make himself “God of the rebel worlds”

    38 worlds in all swung over to Lucifers cause. Satan made the rounds to convince the resident administrators of each world to join the cause of liberty. “There was war in heaven” an ideological fath war, a war of allegiance. Our world was cut off, quarentined from the planetary circuits. The rebellion was confined to our local system.

    You asked about the prince of this world, this invisible administrators name was Prince Caligastia. He was the crafty beast who thwarted the redemption mission of Adam and Eve.

    This unspeakable betrayal by the evil ones of their trust is difficult for man to accept or comprehend. In fact many bright celestials and angels were swept up in the rebellion for the sheer fact that they could not conceive that Lucifer would or could mislead them.

    To those under the authority of lucifer it was almost like the Son of God misleading people. That's how despicable it was. He attacked every order of being.

    Colter


    Colter.

    This teaching is so different to the bible, and Jesus.
    How can you accept this, and also accept Jesus.
    You are compromising the word of God.

    wakeup.


    Christians dont realize how different the teachings of Jesus was to the beliefs of the Jews.

    Stay with the Bible.

    Colter


    Colter.

    The jews in israel have many different sects of believes.
    But the old testament and the new are in harmony.
    They belong to each other.
    They both are the word of the same God.
    If one worship jehovah God,one must accept and believe his word also. And not follow some other word.
    Of which you are doing.

    wakeup.

    #354201
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 27 2013,02:43)

    Quote (Colter @ May 26 2013,22:10)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 26 2013,14:45)

    Quote (Colter @ May 26 2013,11:29)
    No, the UB revealed that there would be a chain of authority under the Son “Michael” who is the co-creator or Father of his local universe creation  of 10,000,000 inhabited

    After The eternal creator Son Michael departed from his Paradice Origen and embarked upon this creation his first creative act was the birth of Gabriel, his chief executive. Then many other orders of administrative beings all serving for the plan of the unseen Paradice Father, the eternal God of all reality.

    This is important—–> created ascendant beings such as Lucifer and his assistant Satan live by faith in the unseen Father in Paradice. They know their creator Son Michael, but the Father would be a matter of Faith.

    What Isiah saw in his vision or prophesy was Lucifer falling in love with himself, in his own brilliance, loosing faith in the Father, rebelling against the Son, raising himself above authority, attempting a coup de etat, attempting to make himself “God of the rebel worlds”

    38 worlds in all swung over to Lucifers cause. Satan made the rounds to convince the resident administrators of each world to join the cause of liberty. “There was war in heaven” an ideological fath war, a war of allegiance. Our world was cut off, quarentined from the planetary circuits. The rebellion was confined to our local system.

    You asked about the prince of this world, this invisible administrators name was Prince Caligastia. He was the crafty beast who thwarted the redemption mission of Adam and Eve.

    This unspeakable betrayal by the evil ones of their trust is difficult for man to accept or comprehend. In fact many bright celestials and angels were swept up in the rebellion for the sheer fact that they could not conceive that Lucifer would or could mislead them.

    To those under the authority of lucifer it was almost like the Son of God misleading people. That's how despicable it was. He attacked every order of being.

    Colter


    Colter.

    This teaching is so different to the bible, and Jesus.
    How can you accept this, and also accept Jesus.
    You are compromising the word of God.

    wakeup.


    Christians dont realize how different the teachings of Jesus was to the beliefs of the Jews.

    Stay with the Bible.

    Colter


    Colter.

    The jews in israel have many different sects of believes.
    But the old testament and the new are in harmony.
    They belong to each other.
    They both are the word of the same God.
    If one worship jehovah God,one must accept and believe his word also. And not follow some other word.
    Of which you are doing.

    wakeup.


    God is the Word, so the Bible books say. But it is easier to worship a book then a real God.

    The Bible books do not claim to be the Word.

    The Bible is a very recent, inaccurate history of the 4.8 +/- year old earth.

    Colter

    #354202
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 30 2013,22:36)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 27 2013,02:43)

    Quote (Colter @ May 26 2013,22:10)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 26 2013,14:45)

    Quote (Colter @ May 26 2013,11:29)
    No, the UB revealed that there would be a chain of authority under the Son “Michael” who is the co-creator or Father of his local universe creation  of 10,000,000 inhabited

    After The eternal creator Son Michael departed from his Paradice Origen and embarked upon this creation his first creative act was the birth of Gabriel, his chief executive. Then many other orders of administrative beings all serving for the plan of the unseen Paradice Father, the eternal God of all reality.

    This is important—–> created ascendant beings such as Lucifer and his assistant Satan live by faith in the unseen Father in Paradice. They know their creator Son Michael, but the Father would be a matter of Faith.

    What Isiah saw in his vision or prophesy was Lucifer falling in love with himself, in his own brilliance, loosing faith in the Father, rebelling against the Son, raising himself above authority, attempting a coup de etat, attempting to make himself “God of the rebel worlds”

    38 worlds in all swung over to Lucifers cause. Satan made the rounds to convince the resident administrators of each world to join the cause of liberty. “There was war in heaven” an ideological fath war, a war of allegiance. Our world was cut off, quarentined from the planetary circuits. The rebellion was confined to our local system.

    You asked about the prince of this world, this invisible administrators name was Prince Caligastia. He was the crafty beast who thwarted the redemption mission of Adam and Eve.

    This unspeakable betrayal by the evil ones of their trust is difficult for man to accept or comprehend. In fact many bright celestials and angels were swept up in the rebellion for the sheer fact that they could not conceive that Lucifer would or could mislead them.

    To those under the authority of lucifer it was almost like the Son of God misleading people. That's how despicable it was. He attacked every order of being.

    Colter


    Colter.

    This teaching is so different to the bible, and Jesus.
    How can you accept this, and also accept Jesus.
    You are compromising the word of God.

    wakeup.


    Christians dont realize how different the teachings of Jesus was to the beliefs of the Jews.

    Stay with the Bible.

    Colter


    Colter.

    The jews in israel have many different sects of believes.
    But the old testament and the new are in harmony.
    They belong to each other.
    They both are the word of the same God.
    If one worship jehovah God,one must accept and believe his word also. And not follow some other word.
    Of which you are doing.

    wakeup.


    God is the Word, so the Bible books say. But it is easier to worship a book then a real God.

    The Bible books do not claim to be the Word.

    The Bible is a very recent, inaccurate history of the 4.8 +/- year old earth.

    Colter


    Colter.

    We dont wont worship books,but the spirit in the words.
    The word of God is as sharp as a two edged sword.

    wakeup.

    #354203
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,03:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,00:14)
    Colter.

    Here are a few scriptures that you hate.
    Reject them all,for it is not to your taste.
    For the truth hurts.

    Matthew 3:7   But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

    Luke 3:7   Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

    Luke 21:23   But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

    John 3:36   He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

    Romans 1:18   For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

    Romans 2:5   But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

    Romans 5:9   Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

    Romans 9:22   What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

    Romans 13:4   For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

    Ephesians 5:6   Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

    Colossians 3:6   For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:

    1 Thessalonians 1:10   And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

    1 Thessalonians 2:16   Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

    Hebrews 3:11   So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)

    Hebrews 4:3   For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

    Revelation 6:16   And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

    Revelation 6:17   For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

    Revelation 11:18   And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

    Revelation 12:12   Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

    Revelation 14:8   And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

    Revelation 14:10   The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

    Revelation 14:19   And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

    Revelation 15:1   And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.

    Revelation 15:7   And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.

    Revelation 16:1   And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.

    Revelation 16:19   And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

    Revelation 18:3   For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

    Revelation 19:15   And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

    wakeup.


    …..no wrath came, it is man who is wrathful, it is man who hates. It is man who is confounded by the loving ways of God.

    Colter


    And ma will be judged according to his works as well. It makes no sense for you to assumethat Hitler and you are equal in the eyes of God.

    If what you say is true there is no need for repentence or acceptance of God for you have made amoral an equal value as moral.

    Shall We treat those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, the same as those who do mischief on earth? Shall We treat those who guard against evil, the same as those who turn aside from the right?

    ( سورة ص , Sad, Chapter #38, Verse #28)

    #354204
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote
    And ma will be judged according to his works as well. It makes no sense for you to assumethat Hitler and you are equal in the eyes of God.

    If what you say is true there is no need for repentence or acceptance of God for you have made amoral an equal value as moral.

    Shall We treat those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, the same as those who do mischief on earth? Shall We treat those who guard against evil, the same as those who turn aside from the right?

    I never said any such thing, yes, we will all eventually be judged, I'm simply pointing out that man creates God in mans own image. Like John the Baptist thought wrath was coming, it didn't.

    Colter

    #354205
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,21:28)

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    And ma will be judged according to his works as well. It makes no sense for you to assumethat Hitler and you are equal in the eyes of God.

    If what you say is true there is no need for repentence or acceptance of God for you have made amoral an equal value as moral.

    Shall We treat those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, the same as those who do mischief on earth? Shall We treat those who guard against evil, the same as those who turn aside from the right?

    I never said any such thing, yes, we will all eventually be judged, I'm simply pointing out that man creates God in mans own image. Like John the Baptist thought wrath was coming, it didn't.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Man indeed create their own gods.
    But Jehovah God introduced himself to us,
    Saying '' I AM THAT I AM''.
    And then ''I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM;ISAAC;AND JACOB''.
    Jehovah,that is my name forever.

    Most religions create their gods and give them a name.
    The people are naming their gods.

    wakeup.

    #354206
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,21:49)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,21:28)

    Quote
    And ma will be judged according to his works as well. It makes no sense for you to assumethat Hitler and you are equal in the eyes of God.

    If what you say is true there is no need for repentence or acceptance of God for you have made amoral an equal value as moral.

    Shall We treat those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, the same as those who do mischief on earth? Shall We treat those who guard against evil, the same as those who turn aside from the right?

    I never said any such thing, yes, we will all eventually be judged, I'm simply pointing out that man creates God in mans own image. Like John the Baptist thought wrath was coming, it didn't.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Man indeed create their own gods.
    But Jehovah God introduced himself to us,
    Saying '' I AM THAT I AM''.
    And then ''I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM;ISAAC;AND JACOB''.
    Jehovah,that is my name forever.

    Most religions create their gods and give them a name.
    The people are naming their gods.

    wakeup.


    What scriptures did the Hebrew's ancestors use if God first introduced himself to us in Genesis?

    Colter

    #354207
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,22:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,21:49)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,21:28)

    Quote
    And ma will be judged according to his works as well. It makes no sense for you to assumethat Hitler and you are equal in the eyes of God.

    If what you say is true there is no need for repentence or acceptance of God for you have made amoral an equal value as moral.

    Shall We treat those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, the same as those who do mischief on earth? Shall We treat those who guard against evil, the same as those who turn aside from the right?

    I never said any such thing, yes, we will all eventually be judged, I'm simply pointing out that man creates God in mans own image. Like John the Baptist thought wrath was coming, it didn't.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Man indeed create their own gods.
    But Jehovah God introduced himself to us,
    Saying '' I AM THAT I AM''.
    And then ''I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM;ISAAC;AND JACOB''.
    Jehovah,that is my name forever.

    Most religions create their gods and give them a name.
    The people are naming their gods.

    wakeup.


    What scriptures did the Hebrew's ancestors use if God first introduced himself to us in Genesis?

    Colter


    Colter.

    Actually, he introduce himself to Abram first.
    And God changed his name to Abraham,and his wives name also. From Sarai, to Sarah.
    At this time Abraham had a direct communication with God.

    Moses also had a direct communication with God.
    And Moses communicated with his people, and thaught them what God has told him. At the same time his sribe wrote everything down in scrolls,all what moses spoke and taught.
    And after that came the chosen prophets.

    And the israelis followed those scrolls teachings.
    And we follow the old and the new testament teachings.

    wakeup.

    #354208
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,23:26)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,22:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,21:49)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,21:28)

    Quote
    And ma will be judged according to his works as well. It makes no sense for you to assumethat Hitler and you are equal in the eyes of God.

    If what you say is true there is no need for repentence or acceptance of God for you have made amoral an equal value as moral.

    Shall We treat those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, the same as those who do mischief on earth? Shall We treat those who guard against evil, the same as those who turn aside from the right?

    I never said any such thing, yes, we will all eventually be judged, I'm simply pointing out that man creates God in mans own image. Like John the Baptist thought wrath was coming, it didn't.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Man indeed create their own gods.
    But Jehovah God introduced himself to us,
    Saying '' I AM THAT I AM''.
    And then ''I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM;ISAAC;AND JACOB''.
    Jehovah,that is my name forever.

    Most religions create their gods and give them a name.
    The people are naming their gods.

    wakeup.


    What scriptures did the Hebrew's ancestors use if God first introduced himself to us in Genesis?

    Colter


    Colter.

    Actually, he introduce himself to Abram first.
    And God changed his name to Abraham,and his wives name also. From Sarai, to Sarah.
    At this time Abraham had a direct communication with God.

    Moses also had a direct communication with God.
    And Moses communicated with his people, and thaught them what God has told him. At the same time his sribe wrote everything down in scrolls,all what moses spoke and taught.
    And after that came the chosen prophets.

    And the israelis followed those scrolls teachings.
    And we follow the old and the new testament teachings.

    wakeup.


    What scriptures did the Hebrew's ancestors use if God first introduced himself to us in Genesis?

    Colter

    #354209
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ June 01 2013,01:10)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,23:26)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,22:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2013,21:49)

    Quote (Colter @ May 31 2013,21:28)

    Quote
    And ma will be judged according to his works as well. It makes no sense for you to assumethat Hitler and you are equal in the eyes of God.

    If what you say is true there is no need for repentence or acceptance of God for you have made amoral an equal value as moral.

    Shall We treat those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, the same as those who do mischief on earth? Shall We treat those who guard against evil, the same as those who turn aside from the right?

    I never said any such thing, yes, we will all eventually be judged, I'm simply pointing out that man creates God in mans own image. Like John the Baptist thought wrath was coming, it didn't.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Man indeed create their own gods.
    But Jehovah God introduced himself to us,
    Saying '' I AM THAT I AM''.
    And then ''I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM;ISAAC;AND JACOB''.
    Jehovah,that is my name forever.

    Most religions create their gods and give them a name.
    The people are naming their gods.

    wakeup.


    What scriptures did the Hebrew's ancestors use if God first introduced himself to us in Genesis?

    Colter


    Colter.

    Actually, he introduce himself to Abram first.
    And God changed his name to Abraham,and his wives name also. From Sarai, to Sarah.
    At this time Abraham had a direct communication with God.

    Moses also had a direct communication with God.
    And Moses communicated with his people, and thaught them what God has told him. At the same time his sribe wrote everything down in scrolls,all what moses spoke and taught.
    And after that came the chosen prophets.

    And the israelis followed those scrolls teachings.
    And we follow the old and the new testament teachings.

    wakeup.


    What scriptures did the Hebrew's ancestors use if God first introduced himself to us in Genesis?

    Colter


    Colter.

    God spoke *directly* to Moses;and Moses spoke *directly* to his people. There were no scrolles ready untill the the prophets.
    After Moses died,all the written scrolls of Moses, and the written scrolls of the prophets, was what the jews follow. Most of the hebrews could not read,for they were slaves.
    The levitican law was taught by Moses,and it was all written down.

    wakeup.

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