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The Goodness of God
(40.5) 2:6.1 In the physical universe we may see the divine beauty, in the intellectual world we may discern eternal truth, but the goodness of God is found only in the spiritual world of personal religious experience. In its true essence, religion is a faith-trust in the goodness of God. God could be great and absolute, somehow even intelligent and personal, in philosophy, but in religion God must also be moral; he must be good. Man might fear a great God, but he trusts and loves only a good God. This goodness of God is a part of the personality of God, and its full revelation appears only in the personal religious experience of the believing sons of God.
(40.6) 2:6.2 Religion implies that the superworld of spirit nature is cognizant of, and responsive to, the fundamental needs of the human world. Evolutionary religion may become ethical, but only revealed religion becomes truly and spiritually moral. The olden concept that God is a Deity dominated by kingly morality was upstepped by Jesus to that affectionately touching level of intimate family morality of the parent-child relationship, than which there is none more tender and beautiful in mortal experience.
(41.1) 2:6.3 The “richness of the goodness of God leads erring man to repentance.” “Every good gift and every perfect gift comes down from the Father of lights.” “God is good; he is the eternal refuge of the souls of men.” “The Lord God is merciful and gracious. He is long-suffering and abundant in goodness and truth.” “Taste and see that the Lord is good! Blessed is the man who trusts him.” “The Lord is gracious and full of compassion. He is the God of salvation.” “He heals the brokenhearted and binds up the wounds of the soul. He is man’s all-powerful benefactor.”
(41.2) 2:6.4 The concept of God as a king-judge, although it fostered a high moral standard and created a law-respecting people as a group, left the individual believer in a sad position of insecurity respecting his status in time and in eternity. The later Hebrew prophets proclaimed God to be a Father to Israel; Jesus revealed God as the Father of each human being. The entire mortal concept of God is transcendently illuminated by the life of Jesus. Selflessness is inherent in parental love. God loves not like a father, but as a father. He is the Paradise Father of every universe personality.
(41.3) 2:6.5 Righteousness implies that God is the source of the moral law of the universe. Truth exhibits God as a revealer, as a teacher. But love gives and craves affection, seeks understanding fellowship such as exists between parent and child. Righteousness may be the divine thought, but love is a father’s attitude. The erroneous supposition that the righteousness of God was irreconcilable with the selfless love of the heavenly Father, presupposed absence of unity in the nature of Deity and led directly to the elaboration of the atonement doctrine, which is a philosophic assault upon both the unity and the free-willness of God.
(41.4) 2:6.6 The affectionate heavenly Father, whose spirit indwells his children on earth, is not a divided personality — one of justice and one of mercy — neither does it require a mediator to secure the Father’s favor or forgiveness. Divine righteousness is not dominated by strict retributive justice; God as a father transcends God as a judge.
(41.5) 2:6.7 God is never wrathful, vengeful, or angry. It is true that wisdom does often restrain his love, while justice conditions his rejected mercy. His love of righteousness cannot help being exhibited as equal hatred for sin. The Father is not an inconsistent personality; the divine unity is perfect. In the Paradise Trinity there is absolute unity despite the eternal identities of the co-ordinates of God.
(41.6) 2:6.8 God loves the sinner and hates the sin: such a statement is true philosophically, but God is a transcendent personality, and persons can only love and hate other persons. Sin is not a person. God loves the sinner because he is a personality reality (potentially eternal), while towards sin God strikes no personal attitude, for sin is not a spiritual reality; it is not personal; therefore does only the justice of God take cognizance of its existence. The love of God saves the sinner; the law of God destroys the sin. This attitude of the divine nature would apparently change if the sinner finally identified himself wholly with sin just as the same mortal mind may also fully identify itself with the indwelling spirit Adjuster. Such a sin-identified mortal would then become wholly unspiritual in nature (and therefore personally unreal) and would experience eventual extinction of being. Unreality, even incompleteness of creature nature, cannot exist forever in a progressingly real and increasingly spiritual universe.
(42.1) 2:6.9 Facing the world of personality, God is discovered to be a loving person; facing the spiritual world, he is a personal love; in religious experience he is both. Love identifies the volitional will of God. The goodness of God rests at the bottom of the divine free-willness — the universal tendency to love, show mercy, manifest patience, and minister forgiveness.
Colter
May 15, 2013 at 4:37 pm#354145SpockParticipantI like that line “Man might fear a great God, but he trusts and loves only a good God.” People like Wakeup fear a double minded mean God of punishment and death, torture, plagues and lakes of fire.
God is good, God is love and so much more. When people heard Jesus teach this, some loved him and some hated him bitterly.
Colter
May 15, 2013 at 4:39 pm#354146WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ May 16 2013,03:19) The Goodness of God (40.5) 2:6.1 In the physical universe we may see the divine beauty, in the intellectual world we may discern eternal truth, but the goodness of God is found only in the spiritual world of personal religious experience. In its true essence, religion is a faith-trust in the goodness of God. God could be great and absolute, somehow even intelligent and personal, in philosophy, but in religion God must also be moral; he must be good. Man might fear a great God, but he trusts and loves only a good God. This goodness of God is a part of the personality of God, and its full revelation appears only in the personal religious experience of the believing sons of God.
(40.6) 2:6.2 Religion implies that the superworld of spirit nature is cognizant of, and responsive to, the fundamental needs of the human world. Evolutionary religion may become ethical, but only revealed religion becomes truly and spiritually moral. The olden concept that God is a Deity dominated by kingly morality was upstepped by Jesus to that affectionately touching level of intimate family morality of the parent-child relationship, than which there is none more tender and beautiful in mortal experience.
(41.1) 2:6.3 The “richness of the goodness of God leads erring man to repentance.” “Every good gift and every perfect gift comes down from the Father of lights.” “God is good; he is the eternal refuge of the souls of men.” “The Lord God is merciful and gracious. He is long-suffering and abundant in goodness and truth.” “Taste and see that the Lord is good! Blessed is the man who trusts him.” “The Lord is gracious and full of compassion. He is the God of salvation.” “He heals the brokenhearted and binds up the wounds of the soul. He is man’s all-powerful benefactor.”
(41.2) 2:6.4 The concept of God as a king-judge, although it fostered a high moral standard and created a law-respecting people as a group, left the individual believer in a sad position of insecurity respecting his status in time and in eternity. The later Hebrew prophets proclaimed God to be a Father to Israel; Jesus revealed God as the Father of each human being. The entire mortal concept of God is transcendently illuminated by the life of Jesus. Selflessness is inherent in parental love. God loves not like a father, but as a father. He is the Paradise Father of every universe personality.
(41.3) 2:6.5 Righteousness implies that God is the source of the moral law of the universe. Truth exhibits God as a revealer, as a teacher. But love gives and craves affection, seeks understanding fellowship such as exists between parent and child. Righteousness may be the divine thought, but love is a father’s attitude. The erroneous supposition that the righteousness of God was irreconcilable with the selfless love of the heavenly Father, presupposed absence of unity in the nature of Deity and led directly to the elaboration of the atonement doctrine, which is a philosophic assault upon both the unity and the free-willness of God.
(41.4) 2:6.6 The affectionate heavenly Father, whose spirit indwells his children on earth, is not a divided personality — one of justice and one of mercy — neither does it require a mediator to secure the Father’s favor or forgiveness. Divine righteousness is not dominated by strict retributive justice; God as a father transcends God as a judge.
(41.5) 2:6.7 God is never wrathful, vengeful, or angry. It is true that wisdom does often restrain his love, while justice conditions his rejected mercy. His love of righteousness cannot help being exhibited as equal hatred for sin. The Father is not an inconsistent personality; the divine unity is perfect. In the Paradise Trinity there is absolute unity despite the eternal identities of the co-ordinates of God.
(41.6) 2:6.8 God loves the sinner and hates the sin: such a statement is true philosophically, but God is a transcendent personality, and persons can only love and hate other persons. Sin is not a person. God loves the sinner because he is a personality reality (potentially eternal), while towards sin God strikes no personal attitude, for sin is not a spiritual reality; it is not personal; therefore does only the justice of God take cognizance of its existence. The love of God saves the sinner; the law of God destroys the sin. This attitude of the divine nature would apparently change if the sinner finally identified himself wholly with sin just as the same mortal mind may also fully identify itself with the indwelling spirit Adjuster. Such a sin-identified mortal would then become wholly unspiritual in nature (and therefore personally unreal) and would experience eventual extinction of being. Unreality, even incompleteness of creature nature, cannot exist forever in a progressingly real and increasingly spiritual universe.
(42.1) 2:6.9 Facing the world of personality, God is discovered to be a loving person; facing the spiritual world, he is a personal love; in religious experience he is both. Love identifies the volitional will of God. The goodness of God rests at the bottom of the divine free-willness — the universal tendency to love, show mercy, manifest patience, and minister forgiveness.
Colter
Colter.You are not quoting the Word of God ,but the word of men.
It is of no value at all.
Sin is the transgression of the law.
Humans transgressed the law,humans are responsible,
and they will be judged according to their works.God is love, but he also did destroy the old world,and Sodom and Gomorah for their transgressions; where many humans have died.
wakeup.
May 15, 2013 at 5:23 pm#354147SpockParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,03:39) Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,03:19) The Goodness of God (40.5) 2:6.1 In the physical universe we may see the divine beauty, in the intellectual world we may discern eternal truth, but the goodness of God is found only in the spiritual world of personal religious experience. In its true essence, religion is a faith-trust in the goodness of God. God could be great and absolute, somehow even intelligent and personal, in philosophy, but in religion God must also be moral; he must be good. Man might fear a great God, but he trusts and loves only a good God. This goodness of God is a part of the personality of God, and its full revelation appears only in the personal religious experience of the believing sons of God.
(40.6) 2:6.2 Religion implies that the superworld of spirit nature is cognizant of, and responsive to, the fundamental needs of the human world. Evolutionary religion may become ethical, but only revealed religion becomes truly and spiritually moral. The olden concept that God is a Deity dominated by kingly morality was upstepped by Jesus to that affectionately touching level of intimate family morality of the parent-child relationship, than which there is none more tender and beautiful in mortal experience.
(41.1) 2:6.3 The “richness of the goodness of God leads erring man to repentance.” “Every good gift and every perfect gift comes down from the Father of lights.” “God is good; he is the eternal refuge of the souls of men.” “The Lord God is merciful and gracious. He is long-suffering and abundant in goodness and truth.” “Taste and see that the Lord is good! Blessed is the man who trusts him.” “The Lord is gracious and full of compassion. He is the God of salvation.” “He heals the brokenhearted and binds up the wounds of the soul. He is man’s all-powerful benefactor.”
(41.2) 2:6.4 The concept of God as a king-judge, although it fostered a high moral standard and created a law-respecting people as a group, left the individual believer in a sad position of insecurity respecting his status in time and in eternity. The later Hebrew prophets proclaimed God to be a Father to Israel; Jesus revealed God as the Father of each human being. The entire mortal concept of God is transcendently illuminated by the life of Jesus. Selflessness is inherent in parental love. God loves not like a father, but as a father. He is the Paradise Father of every universe personality.
(41.3) 2:6.5 Righteousness implies that God is the source of the moral law of the universe. Truth exhibits God as a revealer, as a teacher. But love gives and craves affection, seeks understanding fellowship such as exists between parent and child. Righteousness may be the divine thought, but love is a father’s attitude. The erroneous supposition that the righteousness of God was irreconcilable with the selfless love of the heavenly Father, presupposed absence of unity in the nature of Deity and led directly to the elaboration of the atonement doctrine, which is a philosophic assault upon both the unity and the free-willness of God.
(41.4) 2:6.6 The affectionate heavenly Father, whose spirit indwells his children on earth, is not a divided personality — one of justice and one of mercy — neither does it require a mediator to secure the Father’s favor or forgiveness. Divine righteousness is not dominated by strict retributive justice; God as a father transcends God as a judge.
(41.5) 2:6.7 God is never wrathful, vengeful, or angry. It is true that wisdom does often restrain his love, while justice conditions his rejected mercy. His love of righteousness cannot help being exhibited as equal hatred for sin. The Father is not an inconsistent personality; the divine unity is perfect. In the Paradise Trinity there is absolute unity despite the eternal identities of the co-ordinates of God.
(41.6) 2:6.8 God loves the sinner and hates the sin: such a statement is true philosophically, but God is a transcendent personality, and persons can only love and hate other persons. Sin is not a person. God loves the sinner because he is a personality reality (potentially eternal), while towards sin God strikes no personal attitude, for sin is not a spiritual reality; it is not personal; therefore does only the justice of God take cognizance of its existence. The love of God saves the sinner; the law of God destroys the sin. This attitude of the divine nature would apparently change if the sinner finally identified himself wholly with sin just as the same mortal mind may also fully identify itself with the indwelling spirit Adjuster. Such a sin-identified mortal would then become wholly unspiritual in nature (and therefore personally unreal) and would experience eventual extinction of being. Unreality, even incompleteness of creature nature, cannot exist forever in a progressingly real and increasingly spiritual universe.
(42.1) 2:6.9 Facing the world of personality, God is discovered to be a loving person; facing the spiritual world, he is a personal love; in religious experience he is both. Love identifies the volitional will of God. The goodness of God rests at the bottom of the divine free-willness — the universal tendency to love, show mercy, manifest patience, and minister forgiveness.
Colter
Colter.You are not quoting the Word of God ,but the word of men.
It is of no value at all.
Sin is the transgression of the law.
Humans transgressed the law,humans are responsible,
and they will be judged according to their works.God is love, but he also did destroy the old world,and Sodom and Gomorah for their transgressions; where many humans have died.
wakeup.
Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed by a meteoric explosion, but back then they thought God caused everything to happen. There have been far worse nations since those days and God did nothing.Your mind and heart is closed, you would have rejected Jesus using such cowardice.
Colter
May 16, 2013 at 10:11 am#354148WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ May 16 2013,04:23) Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,03:39) Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,03:19) The Goodness of God (40.5) 2:6.1 In the physical universe we may see the divine beauty, in the intellectual world we may discern eternal truth, but the goodness of God is found only in the spiritual world of personal religious experience. In its true essence, religion is a faith-trust in the goodness of God. God could be great and absolute, somehow even intelligent and personal, in philosophy, but in religion God must also be moral; he must be good. Man might fear a great God, but he trusts and loves only a good God. This goodness of God is a part of the personality of God, and its full revelation appears only in the personal religious experience of the believing sons of God.
(40.6) 2:6.2 Religion implies that the superworld of spirit nature is cognizant of, and responsive to, the fundamental needs of the human world. Evolutionary religion may become ethical, but only revealed religion becomes truly and spiritually moral. The olden concept that God is a Deity dominated by kingly morality was upstepped by Jesus to that affectionately touching level of intimate family morality of the parent-child relationship, than which there is none more tender and beautiful in mortal experience.
(41.1) 2:6.3 The “richness of the goodness of God leads erring man to repentance.” “Every good gift and every perfect gift comes down from the Father of lights.” “God is good; he is the eternal refuge of the souls of men.” “The Lord God is merciful and gracious. He is long-suffering and abundant in goodness and truth.” “Taste and see that the Lord is good! Blessed is the man who trusts him.” “The Lord is gracious and full of compassion. He is the God of salvation.” “He heals the brokenhearted and binds up the wounds of the soul. He is man’s all-powerful benefactor.”
(41.2) 2:6.4 The concept of God as a king-judge, although it fostered a high moral standard and created a law-respecting people as a group, left the individual believer in a sad position of insecurity respecting his status in time and in eternity. The later Hebrew prophets proclaimed God to be a Father to Israel; Jesus revealed God as the Father of each human being. The entire mortal concept of God is transcendently illuminated by the life of Jesus. Selflessness is inherent in parental love. God loves not like a father, but as a father. He is the Paradise Father of every universe personality.
(41.3) 2:6.5 Righteousness implies that God is the source of the moral law of the universe. Truth exhibits God as a revealer, as a teacher. But love gives and craves affection, seeks understanding fellowship such as exists between parent and child. Righteousness may be the divine thought, but love is a father’s attitude. The erroneous supposition that the righteousness of God was irreconcilable with the selfless love of the heavenly Father, presupposed absence of unity in the nature of Deity and led directly to the elaboration of the atonement doctrine, which is a philosophic assault upon both the unity and the free-willness of God.
(41.4) 2:6.6 The affectionate heavenly Father, whose spirit indwells his children on earth, is not a divided personality — one of justice and one of mercy — neither does it require a mediator to secure the Father’s favor or forgiveness. Divine righteousness is not dominated by strict retributive justice; God as a father transcends God as a judge.
(41.5) 2:6.7 God is never wrathful, vengeful, or angry. It is true that wisdom does often restrain his love, while justice conditions his rejected mercy. His love of righteousness cannot help being exhibited as equal hatred for sin. The Father is not an inconsistent personality; the divine unity is perfect. In the Paradise Trinity there is absolute unity despite the eternal identities of the co-ordinates of God.
(41.6) 2:6.8 God loves the sinner and hates the sin: such a statement is true philosophically, but God is a transcendent personality, and persons can only love and hate other persons. Sin is not a person. God loves the sinner because he is a personality reality (potentially eternal), while towards sin God strikes no personal attitude, for sin is not a spiritual reality; it is not personal; therefore does only the justice of God take cognizance of its existence. The love of God saves the sinner; the law of God destroys the sin. This attitude of the divine nature would apparently change if the sinner finally identified himself wholly with sin just as the same mortal mind may also fully identify itself with the indwelling spirit Adjuster. Such a sin-identified mortal would then become wholly unspiritual in nature (and therefore personally unreal) and would experience eventual extinction of being. Unreality, even incompleteness of creature nature, cannot exist forever in a progressingly real and increasingly spiritual universe.
(42.1) 2:6.9 Facing the world of personality, God is discovered to be a loving person; facing the spiritual world, he is a personal love; in religious experience he is both. Love identifies the volitional will of God. The goodness of God rests at the bottom of the divine free-willness — the universal tendency to love, show mercy, manifest patience, and minister forgiveness.
Colter
Colter.You are not quoting the Word of God ,but the word of men.
It is of no value at all.
Sin is the transgression of the law.
Humans transgressed the law,humans are responsible,
and they will be judged according to their works.God is love, but he also did destroy the old world,and Sodom and Gomorah for their transgressions; where many humans have died.
wakeup.
Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed by a meteoric explosion, but back then they thought God caused everything to happen. There have been far worse nations since those days and God did nothing.Your mind and heart is closed, you would have rejected Jesus using such cowardice.
Colter
Colter.Your faith is in mans word.
Thats what they say happened; and also their *SILLY* analyses of the ten plagues in Egypt;and the crossing of the red sea.These are men professing them selves to be wise,but turning themselves into fools.Corrupt from within,and your faith is in them.I believe what God said; it was fire and sulphur raining down from heaven,the evidence is there.
Where is knowledge?
Its true that there were worse nationsthan sodom.But Sodom and Gomorah is early in history;and God used that nation for an example,for all generations to learn what Gods wrath can be.wakeup.
May 16, 2013 at 11:24 am#354149SpockParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,21:11) Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,04:23) Quote (Wakeup @ May 16 2013,03:39) Quote (Colter @ May 16 2013,03:19) The Goodness of God (40.5) 2:6.1 In the physical universe we may see the divine beauty, in the intellectual world we may discern eternal truth, but the goodness of God is found only in the spiritual world of personal religious experience. In its true essence, religion is a faith-trust in the goodness of God. God could be great and absolute, somehow even intelligent and personal, in philosophy, but in religion God must also be moral; he must be good. Man might fear a great God, but he trusts and loves only a good God. This goodness of God is a part of the personality of God, and its full revelation appears only in the personal religious experience of the believing sons of God.
(40.6) 2:6.2 Religion implies that the superworld of spirit nature is cognizant of, and responsive to, the fundamental needs of the human world. Evolutionary religion may become ethical, but only revealed religion becomes truly and spiritually moral. The olden concept that God is a Deity dominated by kingly morality was upstepped by Jesus to that affectionately touching level of intimate family morality of the parent-child relationship, than which there is none more tender and beautiful in mortal experience.
(41.1) 2:6.3 The “richness of the goodness of God leads erring man to repentance.” “Every good gift and every perfect gift comes down from the Father of lights.” “God is good; he is the eternal refuge of the souls of men.” “The Lord God is merciful and gracious. He is long-suffering and abundant in goodness and truth.” “Taste and see that the Lord is good! Blessed is the man who trusts him.” “The Lord is gracious and full of compassion. He is the God of salvation.” “He heals the brokenhearted and binds up the wounds of the soul. He is man’s all-powerful benefactor.”
(41.2) 2:6.4 The concept of God as a king-judge, although it fostered a high moral standard and created a law-respecting people as a group, left the individual believer in a sad position of insecurity respecting his status in time and in eternity. The later Hebrew prophets proclaimed God to be a Father to Israel; Jesus revealed God as the Father of each human being. The entire mortal concept of God is transcendently illuminated by the life of Jesus. Selflessness is inherent in parental love. God loves not like a father, but as a father. He is the Paradise Father of every universe personality.
(41.3) 2:6.5 Righteousness implies that God is the source of the moral law of the universe. Truth exhibits God as a revealer, as a teacher. But love gives and craves affection, seeks understanding fellowship such as exists between parent and child. Righteousness may be the divine thought, but love is a father’s attitude. The erroneous supposition that the righteousness of God was irreconcilable with the selfless love of the heavenly Father, presupposed absence of unity in the nature of Deity and led directly to the elaboration of the atonement doctrine, which is a philosophic assault upon both the unity and the free-willness of God.
(41.4) 2:6.6 The affectionate heavenly Father, whose spirit indwells his children on earth, is not a divided personality — one of justice and one of mercy — neither does it require a mediator to secure the Father’s favor or forgiveness. Divine righteousness is not dominated by strict retributive justice; God as a father transcends God as a judge.
(41.5) 2:6.7 God is never wrathful, vengeful, or angry. It is true that wisdom does often restrain his love, while justice conditions his rejected mercy. His love of righteousness cannot help being exhibited as equal hatred for sin. The Father is not an inconsistent personality; the divine unity is perfect. In the Paradise Trinity there is absolute unity despite the eternal identities of the co-ordinates of God.
(41.6) 2:6.8 God loves the sinner and hates the sin: such a statement is true philosophically, but God is a transcendent personality, and persons can only love and hate other persons. Sin is not a person. God loves the sinner because he is a personality reality (potentially eternal), while towards sin God strikes no personal attitude, for sin is not a spiritual reality; it is not personal; therefore does only the justice of God take cognizance of its existence. The love of God saves the sinner; the law of God destroys the sin. This attitude of the divine nature would apparently change if the sinner finally identified himself wholly with sin just as the same mortal mind may also fully identify itself with the indwelling spirit Adjuster. Such a sin-identified mortal would then become wholly unspiritual in nature (and therefore personally unreal) and would experience eventual extinction of being. Unreality, even incompleteness of creature nature, cannot exist forever in a progressingly real and increasingly spiritual universe.
(42.1) 2:6.9 Facing the world of personality, God is discovered to be a loving person; facing the spiritual world, he is a personal love; in religious experience he is both. Love identifies the volitional will of God. The goodness of God rests at the bottom of the divine free-willness — the universal tendency to love, show mercy, manifest patience, and minister forgiveness.
Colter
Colter.You are not quoting the Word of God ,but the word of men.
It is of no value at all.
Sin is the transgression of the law.
Humans transgressed the law,humans are responsible,
and they will be judged according to their works.God is love, but he also did destroy the old world,and Sodom and Gomorah for their transgressions; where many humans have died.
wakeup.
Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed by a meteoric explosion, but back then they thought God caused everything to happen. There have been far worse nations since those days and God did nothing.Your mind and heart is closed, you would have rejected Jesus using such cowardice.
Colter
Colter.Your faith is in mans word.
Thats what they say happened; and also their *SILLY* analyses of the ten plagues in Egypt;and the crossing of the red sea.These are men professing them selves to be wise,but turning themselves into fools.Corrupt from within,and your faith is in them.I believe what God said; it was fire and sulphur raining down from heaven,the evidence is there.
Where is knowledge?
Its true that there were worse nationsthan sodom.But Sodom and Gomorah is early in history;and God used that nation for an example,for all generations to learn what Gods wrath can be.wakeup.
Wakeup, you are the one who has “wrath” not God, you have hatred not God, you have jealousy not God, it is you who needs to grow up, not God.John the Baptist said that wrath was coming, but no wrath came, just a nice and divinely loving revelation of God in the Son. He didn't poor out wrath
on anyone.Colter
May 16, 2013 at 1:14 pm#354150WakeupParticipantColter.
Here are a few scriptures that you hate.
Reject them all,for it is not to your taste.
For the truth hurts.Matthew 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Luke 3:7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Luke 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Romans 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Romans 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
Romans 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Ephesians 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Colossians 3:6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
1 Thessalonians 2:16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
Hebrews 3:11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
Hebrews 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Revelation 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Revelation 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Revelation 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
Revelation 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
Revelation 15:7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.
Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
Revelation 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
wakeup.
May 16, 2013 at 4:42 pm#354151SpockParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,00:14) Colter. Here are a few scriptures that you hate.
Reject them all,for it is not to your taste.
For the truth hurts.Matthew 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Luke 3:7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Luke 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Romans 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Romans 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
Romans 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Ephesians 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Colossians 3:6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
1 Thessalonians 2:16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
Hebrews 3:11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
Hebrews 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Revelation 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Revelation 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Revelation 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
Revelation 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
Revelation 15:7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.
Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
Revelation 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
wakeup.
…..no wrath came, it is man who is wrathful, it is man who hates. It is man who is confounded by the loving ways of God.Colter
May 16, 2013 at 7:20 pm#354152WakeupParticipantColter.
Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and **the cities of the nations fell**: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the **wine of the fierceness of his wrath**.
*HIS* WRATH IS NOT SPEAKING OF MAN,BUT OF THE LORD.
DONT BE DECEIVED BY WRITINGS OF MEN,FOR SATAN
HAS BEEN WORKING FOR 6000YRS TO DECEIVE AND DEBUNK THE TRUTH.wakeup.
May 16, 2013 at 7:54 pm#354153SpockParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,06:20) Colter. Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and **the cities of the nations fell**: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the **wine of the fierceness of his wrath**.
*HIS* WRATH IS NOT SPEAKING OF MAN,BUT OF THE LORD.
DONT BE DECEIVED BY WRITINGS OF MEN,FOR SATAN
HAS BEEN WORKING FOR 6000YRS TO DECEIVE AND DEBUNK THE TRUTH.wakeup.
The book of revelation was corrupted by apocalyptic writers. God is good, God is love.Colter
May 16, 2013 at 9:26 pm#354154WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ May 17 2013,06:54) Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,06:20) Colter. Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and **the cities of the nations fell**: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the **wine of the fierceness of his wrath**.
*HIS* WRATH IS NOT SPEAKING OF MAN,BUT OF THE LORD.
DONT BE DECEIVED BY WRITINGS OF MEN,FOR SATAN
HAS BEEN WORKING FOR 6000YRS TO DECEIVE AND DEBUNK THE TRUTH.wakeup.
The book of revelation was corrupted by apocalyptic writers. God is good, God is love.Colter
Colter.Your faith in men is great indeed,but it only will lead you,and has led you astray.
Those claims are inspired by the father of lies,who has deceived the whole world.
Be aware.wakeup.
May 17, 2013 at 2:23 am#354155SpockParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,08:26) Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,06:54) Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,06:20) Colter. Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and **the cities of the nations fell**: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the **wine of the fierceness of his wrath**.
*HIS* WRATH IS NOT SPEAKING OF MAN,BUT OF THE LORD.
DONT BE DECEIVED BY WRITINGS OF MEN,FOR SATAN
HAS BEEN WORKING FOR 6000YRS TO DECEIVE AND DEBUNK THE TRUTH.wakeup.
The book of revelation was corrupted by apocalyptic writers. God is good, God is love.Colter
Colter.Your faith in men is great indeed,but it only will lead you,and has led you astray.
Those claims are inspired by the father of lies,who has deceived the whole world.
Be aware.wakeup.
The first and most fundamental lie of Satan was that God did not really exist, then his master Lucifer tried to become “God of this world.” But he failed.There is only one God, not a Satan God and a Good God.
Colter
May 17, 2013 at 5:36 am#354156WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ May 17 2013,13:23) Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,08:26) Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,06:54) Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,06:20) Colter. Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and **the cities of the nations fell**: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the **wine of the fierceness of his wrath**.
*HIS* WRATH IS NOT SPEAKING OF MAN,BUT OF THE LORD.
DONT BE DECEIVED BY WRITINGS OF MEN,FOR SATAN
HAS BEEN WORKING FOR 6000YRS TO DECEIVE AND DEBUNK THE TRUTH.wakeup.
The book of revelation was corrupted by apocalyptic writers. God is good, God is love.Colter
Colter.Your faith in men is great indeed,but it only will lead you,and has led you astray.
Those claims are inspired by the father of lies,who has deceived the whole world.
Be aware.wakeup.
The first and most fundamental lie of Satan was that God did not really exist, then his master Lucifer tried to become “God of this world.” But he failed.There is only one God, not a Satan God and a Good God.
Colter
Colter.Satan is like a roaring lion seeking whom he might deceive.
And he is the god of this world.(babylon the great).
God is the God of all true believers.
He is the God of the living,not the dead.
Babylon is dead;spiritually dead.wakeup.
May 17, 2013 at 10:57 am#354157SpockParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,16:36) Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,13:23) Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,08:26) Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,06:54) Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,06:20) Colter. Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and **the cities of the nations fell**: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the **wine of the fierceness of his wrath**.
*HIS* WRATH IS NOT SPEAKING OF MAN,BUT OF THE LORD.
DONT BE DECEIVED BY WRITINGS OF MEN,FOR SATAN
HAS BEEN WORKING FOR 6000YRS TO DECEIVE AND DEBUNK THE TRUTH.wakeup.
The book of revelation was corrupted by apocalyptic writers. God is good, God is love.Colter
Colter.Your faith in men is great indeed,but it only will lead you,and has led you astray.
Those claims are inspired by the father of lies,who has deceived the whole world.
Be aware.wakeup.
The first and most fundamental lie of Satan was that God did not really exist, then his master Lucifer tried to become “God of this world.” But he failed.There is only one God, not a Satan God and a Good God.
Colter
Colter.Satan is like a roaring lion seeking whom he might deceive.
And he is the god of this world.(babylon the great).
God is the God of all true believers.
He is the God of the living,not the dead.
Babylon is dead;spiritually dead.wakeup.
Wakeup wrote:Quote Satan is like a roaring lion seeking whom he might deceive.
And he is the god of this world.Satan is your God
Colter
May 17, 2013 at 12:15 pm#354158WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ May 17 2013,21:57) Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,16:36) Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,13:23) Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,08:26) Quote (Colter @ May 17 2013,06:54) Quote (Wakeup @ May 17 2013,06:20) Colter. Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and **the cities of the nations fell**: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the **wine of the fierceness of his wrath**.
*HIS* WRATH IS NOT SPEAKING OF MAN,BUT OF THE LORD.
DONT BE DECEIVED BY WRITINGS OF MEN,FOR SATAN
HAS BEEN WORKING FOR 6000YRS TO DECEIVE AND DEBUNK THE TRUTH.wakeup.
The book of revelation was corrupted by apocalyptic writers. God is good, God is love.Colter
Colter.Your faith in men is great indeed,but it only will lead you,and has led you astray.
Those claims are inspired by the father of lies,who has deceived the whole world.
Be aware.wakeup.
The first and most fundamental lie of Satan was that God did not really exist, then his master Lucifer tried to become “God of this world.” But he failed.There is only one God, not a Satan God and a Good God.
Colter
Colter.Satan is like a roaring lion seeking whom he might deceive.
And he is the god of this world.(babylon the great).
God is the God of all true believers.
He is the God of the living,not the dead.
Babylon is dead;spiritually dead.wakeup.
Wakeup wrote:Quote Satan is like a roaring lion seeking whom he might deceive.
And he is the god of this world.Satan is your God
Colter
Colter.1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
AND HE HAS GOT HOLD OF YOU.
Btw; Lucifer *IS* Satan,is the Leviathan,is the serpent,is the Devil,is the dragon,is also called the Assyrian,and he is also called Gog.
One more;the father of lies.wakeup.
May 17, 2013 at 1:25 pm#354159SpockParticipantTheir is only one God.
Colter
May 17, 2013 at 2:16 pm#354160WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ May 18 2013,00:25) Their is only one God. Colter
Colter.Let me correct that;
For gods there are many and lords there are many.
But there is only one *true* God.wakeup.
May 17, 2013 at 5:32 pm#354161SpockParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,01:16) Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,00:25) Their is only one God. Colter
Colter.Let me correct that;
For gods there are many and lords there are many.
But there is only one *true* God.wakeup.
What a complete moron, you say Satan is the God of this world but then you say their is only one God.Colter
May 17, 2013 at 7:53 pm#354162WakeupParticipantQuote (Colter @ May 18 2013,04:32) Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,01:16) Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,00:25) Their is only one God. Colter
Colter.Let me correct that;
For gods there are many and lords there are many.
But there is only one *true* God.wakeup.
What a complete moron, you say Satan is the God of this world but then you say their is only one God.Colter
Colter.Jehovah only is the true God.
Satan is a false god.
Budha is a god to many.
Krishna is a god to many.
Mohamad is a god to many.
But they are all false gods.Do you understand?
May 18, 2013 at 2:38 am#354163SpockParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,06:53) Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,04:32) Quote (Wakeup @ May 18 2013,01:16) Quote (Colter @ May 18 2013,00:25) Their is only one God. Colter
Colter.Let me correct that;
For gods there are many and lords there are many.
But there is only one *true* God.wakeup.
What a complete moron, you say Satan is the God of this world but then you say their is only one God.Colter
Colter.Jehovah only is the true God.
Satan is a false god.
Budha is a god to many.
Krishna is a god to many.
Mohamad is a god to many.
But they are all false gods.Do you understand?
You said Satan is God of this world, you don't really know why you believe what you believe.Colter
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