The first dominion

[journey42]

Once Jesus returns, the first dominion starts.   God could quite easily give Jesus control of the nations now if he wanted to, but instead, he holds back because, this true God we serve is not a God of chaos, but a God of order, and everything has to be according to his plan which has been worked out since the beginning.

First, the fullness of the gentiles has to come in.
If Jesus were ruling now, then they have missed out.  I am not saying that Christ has no power now, do not get me wrong, but a time has been set aside for him to take his throne, and when he does, the world will witness this. In the meantime, he sits at the right hand of the Father, waiting for when his Father says “Go”

As you know, Satan has been given free reign of this world.  His attributes are also clearly seen, as this world Babylon the great is a reflection of his character.  The evil that exists is evident of a world without a righteous God taking action.  Satan has been used by God as a tool to sift out the good from the bad.  Without Satan, we would not know what evil is, and without him, we would not be able to exercise spiritual warfare.  We would not be able to CHOOSE good over evil.  God has let him go, and in fact, created Satan for this very purpose.  Does this mean that God has no control over Satan?  absolutely not.  God has Satan in his hand, like a puppet on a string, using him to attract the evil intentions of man like a magnet, so that the sheep can be separated from the goats.  But if we follow the holy commandments, God will show us through his word how to learn the depths of Satan, by discerning his tricks, his tactics, and methods.  If we are sincere, then by repenting and seeking knowledge we can “catch the fiery darts of the wicked (eph 6:16), We need to know exactly what is good and what is evil.  Only the scriptures can provide this.  We are pre-warned and ready for battle, not only on a daily basis, but God has shown us things to come by his holy prophets, apostles, and most importantly through Christ,..things which must take place, so we can build up our strength and our faith in these last days, and prepare for the final test to prove that faith.  If we have not exercised self control and have not searched for deep knowledge, then our strength will fail us, we will be in darkness (not knowing) and our foundation will be swept away.  We will be caught up in the flood.

The kingdom is an everlasting kingdom.  It has been running since the beginning.  It has never stopped.  God has given us insight into his kingdom, he has shown and shared with us visions, prophesies, and his wisdom by giving us a glimpse into the future and of his kingdom. This is amazing. The world does not have access to this kind of information. God has invited us to one day have an inheritance in this holy kingdom, and by doing this, God is creating spiritual children from the inside out.  He changes our hearts first, guides us, trains us, educates us, puts us through trials and tribulations (to strengthen)
all for the purpose of getting us ready for our big change, when we will be resurrected or quickened to spirit, and made perfect.

I am not telling anybody anything they do not know, for we all know this.  I am only confirming the truth, to encourage.

But what most don't know is that when our Lord Jesus Christ returns, he will take control.  He will come with righteous judgement and will sit on his own throne. He will come in all his glory, with his angels and his saints.  We are hoping those saints will be us.  Jesus Christ will rule from Jerusalem.  The Israelites will be brought back in the flesh, and there will also be a remnant who survived the Coming of the Lord. These will have a chance to meet with Christ, and learn directly from him.  They will spread this truth to the nations, and everyone will know that God also loves them.  They are chosen by election.  

The truth will flow out of Zion, and knowledge will cover the earth.  No more false religions, or doctrines of error.  Brother will not argue against brother anymore over interpretations, for the enemy, Satan, who has been a thorn in our side, with his cunning ways in distorting the truth of the bible will be bound in a spiritual prison, kept away from the world for a thousand years.  This thousand year time frame will be a refreshing SPIRITUAL REST.  The strong man must be bound first, to give the survivors a decent chance.  This is action, fair action, and this is the beginning of change, …a new era, the FIRST DOMINION.  

From here on, no other kingdom will ever rule this world.  And after the 1000 years have expired, Satan will be loosed from his prison, used to do the final sifting,  only for a short time, but will never rule the kingdoms of this world ever again, nor his men.

So all this information I am giving you is in the prophecies, spoken by the prophets.  We are given details here, and some there, but all are pointing to the same thing. Hundreds of prophesies claiming the same thing. That there will be nations existing after Christ's return, and he will be ruling with a rod of iron.  Please think about this.  If Christ is ruling with his saints, and he has kings and priests appointed,  then who are they ruling over?  Who are they teaching? You have to honestly ask yourself this. Why the rod of iron?  The saints have already past the test,  they do not need to be ruled with a rod of iron.  They got there by choice, and mercy, and by exercising self control displaying all the spiritual qualities accepted to be a child of God.

So why does this information make most angry? Do you only want to hear things you already know?  Or do you know everything already?  Is there a possibility that you have not searched deep enough or have been distracted? I tell you ..now.. is the time for the holy spirit to reveal it to some.  We can never know enough.  None of us.  

A few of us here have not been taught by books, or religion. we have known this for many years, and put it together from the prophesies of the bible alone. But we are put into a category, and I know of no-one else declaring this.  There must be a few out there, but I have not heard of them. If there are any I would like to talk to them.  All the scriptures we have given have been rejected.   So please, brethren, this is important, because if we declare this, and you say we are liars, and you are wrong, of which I am a witness,  then you have openly rejected the truth.  This is not a light matter.  We have nothing to gain, by sharing this.  We are not belonging to, or even starting a church, or a religion.  We do not ask for money, and we don't write books for popularity or profit.    We are simply driven to share this and guide you to see it for yourselves in the written word.  We are endorsing the holy bible, free of charge, containing all truth. If you cannot see it, then say so, but please do not accuse us of lying, for we have shown you the scriptures, and if you cannot see it, then just look a little deeper next time.   For anyone that falsely accuses a servant of the Lord is in danger of missing out on his inheritance.  And if this messages makes you think that we think higher of ourselves, then think again, how the unbelieving world think of us,  and how they mock ALL OF US who preach the simplicity of Christ, …consider how they think we are mad dreamers and think we act above them,… how they hate us …and think of how that feels when you say to yourselves “If they only knew”  Well..  you are doing the same,
 
If anyone wants to discuss, please feel free.  If you want to rebuke me, then give me your reasons with scripture, not just accusations.  I will give you scriptures, and at least you will look at them again.

God bless

[Ed J]

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,01:33)

So please, brethren, this is important, because if we declare this, and you say we are liars, and you are wrong, of which I am a witness,   then you have openly rejected the truth.  This is not a light matter.

Hi Jorrney42,

It sounds like you are saying that anyone rejecting what you say
paramounts to them rejecting “Truth”. Is this what you are saying?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2012,06:25)

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,01:33) So please, brethren, this is important, because if we declare this, and you say we are liars, and you are wrong, of which I am a witness,   then you have openly rejected the truth.  This is not a light matter. Hi Jorrney42, It sounds like you are saying that anyone rejecting what you say paramounts to them rejecting “Truth”. Is this what you are saying? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

I guess you right

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2012,11:25)

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,01:33) So please, brethren, this is important, because if we declare this, and you say we are liars, and you are wrong, of which I am a witness,   then you have openly rejected the truth.  This is not a light matter. Hi Jorrney42, It sounds like you are saying that anyone rejecting what you say paramounts to them rejecting “Truth”. Is this what you are saying? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

Journeys,statement is the truth; UNTILL SOMEONE CAN COME UP AND PROOF OTHERWISE.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

Are you calling what you believe “proof”,
and others believe is not proof?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

J42

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A few of us here have not been taught by books, or religion. we have known this for many years, and put it together from the prophesies of the bible alone. But we are put into a category, and I know of no-one else declaring this. There must be a few out there, but I have not heard of them. If there are any I would like to talk to them. All the scriptures we have given have been rejected. So please, brethren, this is important, because if we declare this, and you say we are liars, and you are wrong, of which I am a witness, then you have openly rejected the truth.

if you have been shown scriptures to prove you wrong then it is with the scriptures you have to deal with ,but do not expect me to believe on your interpretation when I know that scriptures says other wise ,

it is true that some take verses in scriptures and mixed them with what it should not be mix with ,or make scriptures say what in context it really does not say or means ,you are frustrated but why this is not our fight but Christ fight ,we are doing the talk and walk but who make it grow you know the answer to this right ?

[journey42]

2 Peter 3:2   That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Savior.

I said previously in another post that this verse was the 2nd feast.  I would like to correct my error.  This feast is the same feast that happens at the coming of our Lord as spoken in Revelation 19:17-18.  

Ezekiel chapters 37 * 38 & 39 reveal to us things which must come to pass at THE START TO THE END OF THE MILLENIUM (1000 YEAR REIGN).  Then it shifts to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.  We have to discern the timing of events, and how God will mix up timeframes within a same chapter to keep the mystery hidden, like a precious jewel, only for those really searching to find.  If some of us did not understand the other prophesies, and the plan of God, we would be totally lost in these scriptures, but thanks to our Lord God, that through his living word, he has helped us to connect and discern these scriptures, and I hope you can see it too.

This is mentioned in Revelations.  After that war, where men will be fighting against Christ.  There will be a huge bloodbath left there of all the armies, in Armegeddon (Israel)
Ezekiel 39:17   And, thou, son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come, gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of ISRAEL, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood.

Ezekiel 39:18   Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan.
Ezekiel 39:19   And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you.
Ezekiel 39:20   Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 39:21   And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgement that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.

Ezekiel 39:22   So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day and forward.

Ezekiel 39:23   And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Ezekiel 39:24   According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
Ezekiel 39:25   Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;

Ezekiel 39:26   After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.(during 1000 years reign)

Ezekiel 39:27   When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Ezekiel 39:28   Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen.  but I have gathered uthem unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Ezekiel 39:29   Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord God.

Israel play a very big part in God's plan.  We cannot ignore.  
Q. Why is it important that we know?
A. For Christ and the saints will be teaching them, and they will teach the surviving nations,
only during the millenium, after Christ returns, and not a day before.

If we cannot accept this and reject this truth openly, we will not be a part of this wonderful plan that God has orchestrated. It's that simple.

[terraricca]

j42

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.
2Pe 3:11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives
2Pe 3:12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.

Mt 24:30 “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.
Mt 24:31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
Mt 24:32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.
Mt 24:33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door.
Mt 24:34 I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
Mt 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

Mt 24:45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?
Mt 24:46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns.
Mt 24:47 I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions.
Mt 24:48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’
Mt 24:49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards.
Mt 24:50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of.
Mt 24:51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Lk 21:27 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Lk 21:28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

we all know the reason why this world will be destroyed but it is what will save us that is more important ,right

[terraricca]

j42

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Israel play a very big part in God's plan. We cannot ignore. Q. Why is it important that we know? A. For Christ and the saints will be teaching them, and they will teach the surviving nations, only during the millenium, after Christ returns, and not a day before. If we cannot accept this and reject this truth openly, we will not be a part of this wonderful plan that God has orchestrated. It's that simple.

Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

SHOW ME ON THE BASES OF THIS SCRIPTURES THAT ISRAEL OR JERUSALEM HIS OF ANY IMPORTANCE FOR GOD OR IN GODS PLAN

[journey42]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2012,11:25)

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,01:33) So please, brethren, this is important, because if we declare this, and you say we are liars, and you are wrong, of which I am a witness,   then you have openly rejected the truth.  This is not a light matter. Hi Jorrney42, It sounds like you are saying that anyone rejecting what you say paramounts to them rejecting “Truth”. Is this what you are saying? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

No Ed,

I am saying that anyone rejecting the prophesies is rejecting the truth,
and what I am doing is guiding all to those prophesies.

[journey42]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2012,12:06)

J42 Quote A few of us here have not been taught by books, or religion. we have known this for many years, and put it together from the prophesies of the bible alone. But we are put into a category, and I know of no-one else declaring this.  There must be a few out there, but I have not heard of them. If there are any I would like to talk to them.  All the scriptures we have given have been rejected.   So please, brethren, this is important, because if we declare this, and you say we are liars, and you are wrong, of which I am a witness,  then you have openly rejected the truth. if you have been shown scriptures to prove you wrong then it is with the scriptures you have to deal with ,but do not expect me to believe on your interpretation when I know that scriptures says other wise , it is true that some take verses in scriptures and mixed them with what it should not be mix with ,or make scriptures say what in context it really does not say or means ,you are frustrated but why this is not our fight but Christ fight ,we are doing the talk and walk but who make it grow  you know the answer to this right ?

Hi Pierre,

If you can show me scriptures to prove that I am wrong, then I will accept.

[Ed J]

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,14:11)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2012,11:25) Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,01:33) So please, brethren, this is important, because if we declare this, and you say we are liars, and you are wrong, of which I am a witness,   then you have openly rejected the truth.  This is not a light matter. Hi Jorrney42,   It sounds like you are saying that anyone rejecting what you say paramounts to them rejecting “Truth”. Is this what you are saying? God bless Ed J No Ed, I am saying that anyone rejecting the prophesies is rejecting the truth, and what I am doing is guiding all to those prophesies.

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Matthew 10:41   He that receiveth a prophet  in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward;

Hi Journey42,  (Link)

Are you equating your understanding of Prophecy
with the receiving of a prophet and thus
deserving of “a Prophet's reward”?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,09:13)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2012,12:06) J42 Quote A few of us here have not been taught by books, or religion. we have known this for many years, and put it together from the prophesies of the bible alone. But we are put into a category, and I know of no-one else declaring this.  There must be a few out there, but I have not heard of them. If there are any I would like to talk to them.  All the scriptures we have given have been rejected.   So please, brethren, this is important, because if we declare this, and you say we are liars, and you are wrong, of which I am a witness,  then you have openly rejected the truth. if you have been shown scriptures to prove you wrong then it is with the scriptures you have to deal with ,but do not expect me to believe on your interpretation when I know that scriptures says other wise , it is true that some take verses in scriptures and mixed them with what it should not be mix with ,or make scriptures say what in context it really does not say or means ,you are frustrated but why this is not our fight but Christ fight ,we are doing the talk and walk but who make it grow  you know the answer to this right ? Hi Pierre, If you can show me scriptures to prove that I am wrong, then I will accept.

j42

I have ask you a question and you do not answer me ,why then are you saying that I have to show you scriptures the prove you wrong ?? if you do not going to look at them and answer my questions

what a useless practice ,

[journey42]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2012,12:32)

Quote j42 2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare. 2Pe 3:11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 2Pe 3:12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. Mt 24:30 “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. Mt 24:31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Mt 24:32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. Mt 24:33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. Mt 24:34 I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Mt 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. Mt 24:45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? Mt 24:46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. Mt 24:47 I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. Mt 24:48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ Mt 24:49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. Mt 24:50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. Mt 24:51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Lk 21:27 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Lk 21:28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.” we all know the reason why this world will be destroyed but it is what will save us that is more important ,right

Pierre,

Please think about this.
2 Peter 3:10   but the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night……

If you are already dead, even from long time ago,
and if you have not been accepted in the first resurrection,
then you will be raised in the 2nd resurrection to be judged.  This is the day of the Lord for you.  He will be there standing at the door.

For those who are alive at the Lord's coming, will not be in darkness, for he gave us signs so that we can know the season.  He will not come as a thief in the night if they are watching the signs.  They will even tell you what comes next, and next after that, and next after that, for it is all in the scriptures.

2Peter 3:10 is speaking of the 2nd JUDGEMENT.  This happens after the thousand years.  How do I know that?

Rev 20:5   ….and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:6   ..Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign with him a thousand years.

This can only happen AFTER THE COMING, when the saints are resurrected.  Not before.

read on;

Rev 20:7   And when THE THOUSAND YEARS ARE EXPIRED, Satan shall be loosed out his prison

Read on again, keep going. Get your bible out. They attack the camp of the saints, and fire comes out of heaven from God and kills Mog and Magog.  This is a different battle.  This is not the false prophet, as he was thrown into the lake of fire with the beast a thousand years earlier by CHRIST.  That was Christ's priveledge to destroy him.  You have completely ignored the 1000 years, and therefore can not discern the time frame.
Only after the 1000 years, will the 2nd judgement occur, then the whole earth will be melted.  It has to happen in this order.  Even death itself will be destroyed, and when God has put all enemies under Christ's feet, Christ will then submit the kingdom back to his Father, and Christ will always be with the Father, never without him.

Christ is given a specific job to do.  To rule the nations for a thousand years.  This is Christ's glory, King of Kings, Lord of Lords.  You can not take this away from him.  God has assigned him to complete this job in the FIRST DOMINION, so future generations can also have a chance.

[journey42]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2012,14:31)

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,14:11) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2012,11:25) Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,01:33) So please, brethren, this is important, because if we declare this, and you say we are liars, and you are wrong, of which I am a witness,   then you have openly rejected the truth.  This is not a light matter. Hi Jorrney42,   It sounds like you are saying that anyone rejecting what you say paramounts to them rejecting “Truth”. Is this what you are saying? God bless Ed J No Ed, I am saying that anyone rejecting the prophesies is rejecting the truth, and what I am doing is guiding all to those prophesies. Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 05 2012,17:11) Matthew 10:41   He that receiveth a prophet  in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; Hi Journey42,  (Link) Are you equating your understanding of Prophecy with the receiving of a prophet and thus deserving of “a Prophet's reward”? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed,

You finally got it!

Anyone who receives a prophet, can receive a prophets reward. UNDERSTANDING PROPHESIES.

Not just me. I am only one little small speck out of the populations of the christian world. This reward available to ANYONE WHO ACCEPTS THE PROPHETS GOD HAS SENT & HEARS THEM.

[journey42]

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Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,09:13) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2012,12:06) J42 Quote A few of us here have not been taught by books, or religion. we have known this for many years, and put it together from the prophesies of the bible alone. But we are put into a category, and I know of no-one else declaring this.  There must be a few out there, but I have not heard of them. If there are any I would like to talk to them.  All the scriptures we have given have been rejected.   So please, brethren, this is important, because if we declare this, and you say we are liars, and you are wrong, of which I am a witness,  then you have openly rejected the truth. if you have been shown scriptures to prove you wrong then it is with the scriptures you have to deal with ,but do not expect me to believe on your interpretation when I know that scriptures says other wise , it is true that some take verses in scriptures and mixed them with what it should not be mix with ,or make scriptures say what in context it really does not say or means ,you are frustrated but why this is not our fight but Christ fight ,we are doing the talk and walk but who make it grow  you know the answer to this right ? Hi Pierre, If you can show me scriptures to prove that I am wrong, then I will accept. j42 I have ask you a question and you do not answer me ,why then are you saying that I have to show you scriptures the prove you wrong ?? if you do not going to look at them and answer my questions what a useless practice ,

Pierre, slow down.

I can only answer so fast. You did not give me scriptures, but just saying anyone can mix up the scriptures. I know that. What do you want me to say? My message is to discern the scriptures, because God hides things in there from the proud.

[terraricca]

J42

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If you are already dead, even from long time ago, and if you have not been accepted in the first resurrection, then you will be raised in the 2nd resurrection to be judged

this yes is true ;but not all in the second resurrection will die .

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For those who are alive at the Lord's coming, will not be in darkness, for he gave us signs so that we can know the season.

this is also true ;but tell me what about what the law says ; the soul that sins will die ;so do you think that some will not see dead and yet have sinned if so then to them there is no resurrection right not the first or second right

let see your answers on this

[Ed J]

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 30 2012,14:49)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2012,14:31) Hi Journey42, Are you equating your understanding of Prophecy with the receiving of a prophet and thus deserving of “a Prophet's reward”? God bless Ed J Hi Ed, You finally got it! Anyone who receives a prophet, can receive a prophets reward.  UNDERSTANDING PROPHESIES.

Hi Georgie,

So what is the reward you are deserving of for your way of understanding Prophecy?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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j42

you overlooked this one ;

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Israel play a very big part in God's plan. We cannot ignore.
Q. Why is it important that we know?
A. For Christ and the saints will be teaching them, and they will teach the surviving nations,
only during the millenium, after Christ returns, and not a day before.

If we cannot accept this and reject this truth openly, we will not be a part of this wonderful plan that God has orchestrated. It's that simple.

Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

SHOW ME ON THE BASES OF THIS SCRIPTURES THAT ISRAEL OR JERUSALEM HIS OF ANY IMPORTANCE FOR GOD OR IN GODS PLAN

please answer the question

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j42

that is for sins 70 AD until now or latter

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