The fear of jesus

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  • #134068
    Not3in1
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 18 2009,13:47)
    Hi BD,
    The trinity destroys relationship between the vine and the branches and thus also the Gardener.


    Well said!

    :)

    #134069
    Cindy
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    Hi BO. That you think that the  Church was the only Church around through out the dark and middle ages, but do you know why?  If you did not go along with them, you were tortured and killed.  We belonged to the Church until God called us out of it. I am for ever thanking God for that.  We came from Germany and I remember the Church we belonged to, in the Basement there were still object of that time.
    After almost three centuries of brutal and bloody persecution, the Roman emperor CANSTANTINE issued an edit, granting all Christian full freedom to practise their religion. The time was A.D.321
    My Husband has educated Himself in Ancient History and World History, He knows a lot more then I do.  If He wants to I will tell Him about this post, He can tell you more. That was a horrible time, and that is were some of the Saints come from and will reign with Christ a thousand years, IMO
    Peace and Love Irene

    #134091
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (Cindy @ June 21 2009,08:16)
    Hi BO. That you think that the  Church was the only Church around through out the dark and middle ages, but do you know why?  If you did not go along with them, you were tortured and killed.  We belonged to the Church until God called us out of it. I am for ever thanking God for that.  We came from Germany and I remember the Church we belonged to, in the Basement there were still object of that time.
    After almost three centuries of brutal and bloody persecution, the Roman emperor CANSTANTINE issued an edit, granting all Christian full freedom to practise their religion. The time was A.D.321
    My Husband has educated Himself in Ancient History and World History, He knows a lot more then I do.  If He wants to I will tell Him about this post, He can tell you more. That was a horrible time, and that is were some of the Saints come from and will reign with Christ a thousand years, IMO
    Peace and Love Irene


    In 600 Ad The Catholic Church was the main representation of the Church, right?

    #134098
    NickHassan
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    Hi BD,
    How can the whore ever represent the body of Christ?

    #134114
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 21 2009,16:52)
    Hi BD,
    How can the whore ever represent the body of Christ?


    It was Nick and at the time they would have wanted to burn you at the stake for knowing the truth about Jesus as you do back then if you would have ran into a Muslim you would have left that “whore” and joined others who Bowed down to God Almighty alone.

    But you won't bow down with those who bow to God Alone unless they take partners with God(How odd)

    Abraham said worship God Alone
    Moses said worship God Alone
    Jesus said Worship God Alone
    Muhammad said Worship God Alone
    Nick says Worship God Alone
    Bodhitharta says Worship God Alone

    Now All the above agree that this ONE GOD is ONE BEING and THE ONLY BEING who knows “THE HOUR”

    No One Knows the Day or Hour

    36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,[a] but My Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

    (5) They ask thee about the (final) hour – when will be its appointed time? Say: “The knowledge thereof is with my Lord (alone): None but He can reveal as to when it will occur. Heavy were its burden through the heavens and the earth. Only, all of a sudden will it come to you.” They ask thee as if thou Wert eager in search thereof: Say: “The knowledge thereof is with Allah (alone), but most men know not.”
    ( سورة الأعراف , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #187)

    Now, what am I missing here?

    #134116
    NickHassan
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    Hi BD,
    If you cannot discern between Christ and the Whore what do you know?

    Trying to save yourself and putting aside the appointed mediator cannot succeed.

    Whoever wants to save his own life will lose it.

    #134134
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 22 2009,07:10)
    Hi BD,
    If you cannot discern between Christ and the Whore what do you know?

    Trying to save yourself and putting aside the appointed mediator cannot succeed.

    Whoever wants to save his own life will lose it.


    Wow! Are you serious?

    I have discerned between the Christ and the Whore the fact is I don't think that you really have because it is only the whore that goes about being adulterous and joining partners with God.

    You seem to think that Jesus is God's partner, is that so? Can God save whomever He wishes however he wishes or does he need the approval of Jesus?

    #134138
    Cindy
    Participant

    BD If I am not mistaken Nick is right about the C.Church not being the Body of Christ, how could they!They tortured and killed all Christians, if you did not go along with them. The Mass is an abomination to God. Most of the Christians went and worshipped underground, and took a big chance. Millions died. those that gave their lives, are IMO going to rule with Christ in the Millenium.
    Peace and Love Irene

    #134143
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Cindy @ June 22 2009,10:34)
    BD  If I am not mistaken Nick is right about the C.Church not being the Body of Christ, how could they!They tortured and killed all Christians, if you did not go along with them.  The Mass is an abomination to God.  Most of the Christians went and worshipped underground, and took a big chance. Millions died. those that gave their lives, are IMO going to rule with Christ in the Millenium.
    Peace and Love Irene


    I wasn't disagreeing with Nick at all. I was telling him that he would have been one of the ones tortured and mudered for not worshipping Jesus as God Almighty and not believing in the trinity all things that the Quran has already stated were not true and the Catholics tried to stop Islam and true believers of all faiths but they could not and the Muslims shattered their Idols and statues of Worship.

    Historians distinguish between four different manifestations of the Inquisition:

    the Medieval Inquisition (1184- 1230s)
    the Spanish Inquisition (1478-1834)
    the Portuguese Inquisition (1536-1821)
    the Roman Inquisition (1542- ~1860 )

    and the crusades between 1095 and 1291. Other campaigns in Spain and Eastern Europe continued into the 15th century. The Crusades were fought mainly against Muslims

    #134155
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    So you are trying out your own pathway to God?

    You will need to come to Jesus because no man can see the kingdom unless he is born again.

    Jesus is the door, the way the truth and the life.
    He is the resurrection and the life.

    No man of God comes later to offer corrections.

    #134156
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 22 2009,14:05)
    Hi BD,
    So you are trying out your own pathway to God?

    You will need to come to Jesus because no man can see the kingdom unless he is born again.

    Jesus is the door, the way the truth and the life.
    He is the resurrection and the life.

    No man of God comes later to offer corrections.


    Revelations are not corrections they are revealings of what was not known previously.

    #134159
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Really?
    And you can be sure they are valid?
    The Spirit of God takes us back to Jesus words so we can check but you are alone.

    #134255
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 22 2009,14:21)
    Hi BD,
    Really?
    And you can be sure they are valid?
    The Spirit of God takes us back to Jesus words so we can check but you are alone.


    I have given the words of Jesus to validate everything I have said most of which you agree with except when it comes to Islam if I had never mentioned Islam you would have been in lock step with me as you are in most every post directed at anyone other than me.

    So I am not alone at all because in spirit you are with me, you and all those who know the truth of God and as Jesus said the truth shall set you free.

    #134266
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Jesus is the truth and the way.
    In him there is freedom but in your master's wake is only troubles.

    #134274
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2009,14:18)
    Hi BD,
    Jesus is the truth and the way.
    In him there is freedom but in your master's wake is only troubles.


    but God is my master.

    #134275
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Funny you say that because the Jews did too in Jn8.41 and got short shrift.

    #134283
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2009,14:42)
    Hi BD,
    Funny you say that because the Jews did too in Jn8.41 and got short shrift.


    42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

    But I do love Jesus so your comparison fails

    #134285
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    But claim then two masters.
    Since Jesus is corrected by your other lord which is your true master?

    #134287
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    You come claiming love of Jesus but undermine his words and try to divide the body of Christ so who is your real master?

    #134288
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2009,15:24)
    Hi BD,
    But claim then two masters.
    Since Jesus is corrected by your other lord which is your true master?


    You claim two masters Nick

    I claim That The Lord God is Above all and to Him I submit

    Doesn't God know best about Jesus?

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