The faith of jesus

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Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,22:22)

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,22:08) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,22:06) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,21:58) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,21:37) Christians unwittingly require the betrayal of Jesus, the trumped up trial, the torturous death because you are unwilling to get off your fat ass and face your own sin! Colter Hi Colter, We are incapable of removing the effect of our sins. But, thanks to GOD… “He hath removed our transgressions from us” (Psalms 103:12) “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,  that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,  but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16) “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that  we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” (2 Cor 5:21) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Sure we are Ed, it's called confessing, repenting and seeking forgiveness, then forgive as we are forgiven. …..but it is for the this very reason that man cant or won't understand Loving forgiveness that he has created systems and rituals in order to make an equal barter with God. Colter Hi Colter, But that's not our doing, it's his ransom sacrifice that removed our sin. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No, that theory comes from the Paganized version of the gospel that you were born into, a religion ABOUT Jesus, Christianity. In the religion OF Jesus “the gospel of the kingdom of heaven”, salvation and forgiveness was by faith, it always has been. Forgiveness and salvation in the religion OF Jesus was not tied to human sacrifice while in the Roman Mysteries it was. Bible fragmnet: 44 Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. 46 You did not put oil on my head, but she has poured perfume on my feet. 47 Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—as her great love has shown. But whoever has been forgiven little loves little.” 48 Then Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.” 49 The other guests began to say among themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?” 50 Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.” Colter

Colter.

Did you say no need for sacrifice?

But we all do sacrifices every day.
Called the daily sacrifice.
You obviously dont sacrifice at all; just do what the heart feels,and ask God to forgive after the sinning.
And all will be fine ;for God is good. This is the doctrine of the lawless one.

To be separate from babylon is a sacrifice.
To not touch the unclean thing, is a sacrifice.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,22:21)

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,22:08) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,22:06) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,21:58) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,21:37) Christians unwittingly require the betrayal of Jesus, the trumped up trial, the torturous death because you are unwilling to get off your fat ass and face your own sin! Colter Hi Colter, We are incapable of removing the effect of our sins. But, thanks to GOD… “He hath removed our transgressions from us” (Psalms 103:12) “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,  that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,  but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16) “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that  we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” (2 Cor 5:21) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Sure we are Ed, it's called confessing, repenting and seeking forgiveness, then forgive as we are forgiven. …..but it is for the this very reason that man cant or won't understand Loving forgiveness that he has created systems and rituals in order to make an equal barter with God. Colter Hi Colter, But that's not our doing, it's his ransom sacrifice that removed our sin. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No, that theory comes from the Paganized version of the gospel that you were born into, a religion ABOUT Jesus, Christianity. In the religion [/B]OF Jesus “the gospel of the kingdom of heaven”, salvation and forgiveness was by faith, it always has been. Forgiveness and salvation in the religion OF Jesus was not tied to human sacrifice while in the Roman Mysteries it was. Bible fragmnet: 44 Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. 46 You did not put oil on my head, but she has poured perfume on my feet. 47 Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—as her great love has shown. But whoever has been forgiven little loves little.” 48 Then Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.” 49 The other guests began to say among themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?” 50 Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.” Colter

“Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour:
 but for this cause came I unto this hour. Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a
 voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.” (John 12:27-28)

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,22:53)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,22:21) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,22:08) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,22:06) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,21:58) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,21:37) Christians unwittingly require the betrayal of Jesus, the trumped up trial, the torturous death because you are unwilling to get off your fat ass and face your own sin! Colter Hi Colter, We are incapable of removing the effect of our sins. But, thanks to GOD… “He hath removed our transgressions from us” (Psalms 103:12) “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,  that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,  but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16) “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that  we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” (2 Cor 5:21) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Sure we are Ed, it's called confessing, repenting and seeking forgiveness, then forgive as we are forgiven. …..but it is for the this very reason that man cant or won't understand Loving forgiveness that he has created systems and rituals in order to make an equal barter with God. Colter Hi Colter, But that's not our doing, it's his ransom sacrifice that removed our sin. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No, that theory comes from the Paganized version of the gospel that you were born into, a religion ABOUT Jesus, Christianity. In the religion [/B]OF Jesus “the gospel of the kingdom of heaven”, salvation and forgiveness was by faith, it always has been. Forgiveness and salvation in the religion OF Jesus was not tied to human sacrifice while in the Roman Mysteries it was. Bible fragmnet: 44 Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. 46 You did not put oil on my head, but she has poured perfume on my feet. 47 Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—as her great love has shown. But whoever has been forgiven little loves little.” 48 Then Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.” 49 The other guests began to say among themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?” 50 Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.” Colter “Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour:  but for this cause came I unto this hour. Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a  voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.” (John 12:27-28)

Bingo Edj,your not only pretty. But no good for Colter,he will just say that its not genuine,its added on; by the corrupt jews.

wakeup.

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“Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.” (John 12:27-28)

That doesn’t say what you want it to say, that does not say that Gods forgiveness was conditional to an innocent man dying.

Colter

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Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2013,22:48)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,22:22) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,22:08) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,22:06) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,21:58) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,21:37) Christians unwittingly require the betrayal of Jesus, the trumped up trial, the torturous death because you are unwilling to get off your fat ass and face your own sin! Colter Hi Colter, We are incapable of removing the effect of our sins. But, thanks to GOD… “He hath removed our transgressions from us” (Psalms 103:12) “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,  that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,  but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16) “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that  we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” (2 Cor 5:21) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Sure we are Ed, it's called confessing, repenting and seeking forgiveness, then forgive as we are forgiven. …..but it is for the this very reason that man cant or won't understand Loving forgiveness that he has created systems and rituals in order to make an equal barter with God. Colter Hi Colter, But that's not our doing, it's his ransom sacrifice that removed our sin. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No, that theory comes from the Paganized version of the gospel that you were born into, a religion ABOUT Jesus, Christianity. In the religion OF Jesus “the gospel of the kingdom of heaven”, salvation and forgiveness was by faith, it always has been. Forgiveness and salvation in the religion OF Jesus was not tied to human sacrifice while in the Roman Mysteries it was. Bible fragmnet: 44 Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. 46 You did not put oil on my head, but she has poured perfume on my feet. 47 Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—as her great love has shown. But whoever has been forgiven little loves little.” 48 Then Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.” 49 The other guests began to say among themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?” 50 Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.” Colter Colter. Did you say no need for sacrifice? But we all do sacrifices every day. Called the daily sacrifice. You obviously dont sacrifice at all; just do what the heart feels,and ask God to forgive after the sinning. And all will be fine ;for God is good. This is the doctrine of the lawless one. To be separate from babylon is a sacrifice. To not touch the unclean thing, is a sacrifice. wakeup.

You lie and mischaracterize my words because you can't win the debate on it's merits.

You would do better to deal with your childish dishonesty, your own sin problem then attempt to accuse me.

It's your problem if you don't like …”forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.”

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,23:47)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2013,22:48) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,22:22) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,22:08) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,22:06) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,21:58) Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,21:37) Christians unwittingly require the betrayal of Jesus, the trumped up trial, the torturous death because you are unwilling to get off your fat ass and face your own sin! Colter Hi Colter, We are incapable of removing the effect of our sins. But, thanks to GOD… “He hath removed our transgressions from us” (Psalms 103:12) “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,  that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,  but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16) “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that  we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” (2 Cor 5:21) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Sure we are Ed, it's called confessing, repenting and seeking forgiveness, then forgive as we are forgiven. …..but it is for the this very reason that man cant or won't understand Loving forgiveness that he has created systems and rituals in order to make an equal barter with God. Colter Hi Colter, But that's not our doing, it's his ransom sacrifice that removed our sin. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No, that theory comes from the Paganized version of the gospel that you were born into, a religion ABOUT Jesus, Christianity. In the religion OF Jesus “the gospel of the kingdom of heaven”, salvation and forgiveness was by faith, it always has been. Forgiveness and salvation in the religion OF Jesus was not tied to human sacrifice while in the Roman Mysteries it was. Bible fragmnet: 44 Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. 46 You did not put oil on my head, but she has poured perfume on my feet. 47 Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—as her great love has shown. But whoever has been forgiven little loves little.” 48 Then Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.” 49 The other guests began to say among themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?” 50 Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.” Colter Colter. Did you say no need for sacrifice? But we all do sacrifices every day. Called the daily sacrifice. You obviously dont sacrifice at all; just do what the heart feels,and ask God to forgive after the sinning. And all will be fine ;for God is good. This is the doctrine of the lawless one. To be separate from babylon is a sacrifice. To not touch the unclean thing, is a sacrifice. wakeup. You lie and mischaracterize my words because you can't win the debate on it's merits. You would do better to deal with your childish dishonesty, your own sin problem then attempt to accuse me. It's your problem if you don't like …”forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.” Colter

Colter.

Jesus crucified for our sins is the greatest sacrifice ever.
He has been obedient to his father, even giving his own young life.

We also must love God;even more than our own life.

Jesus has opned the door to God again,for it was closed.
The 10 commandments could not bring us to God,
because we keep on breaking it.
We break one commandment;we are guilty of all,
because it is the same God that says, thou shalt not steal.

But God still loves us;and had provided a door to come to him. That door is his only begotten Son;the faithful obedient Son.

Therefore now we go by mercy.
Only through mercy we can come to God.
And to have that mercy,we need to follow Jesus commandments; and accept his sacrifice.
He now is the one door to God.

NO SACRIFICE OF JESUS;NO DOOR: NO DOOR; WE ARE LOST.
We also have to sacrifice daily,by refusing to touch the unclean thing.

Colter; you must accept Gods gift to us, or you will be lost.
Satan did not know, that by killing jesus; he is putting the rope around his own neck. Now all can come to God again.
And satan does not want that.

wakeup.

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Colter. Jesus crucified for our sins is the greatest sacrifice ever. He has been obedient to his father, even giving his own young life. We also must love God;even more than our own life. Jesus has opned the door to God again,for it was closed. The 10 commandments could not bring us to God, because we keep on breaking it. We break one commandment;we are guilty of all, because it is the same God that says, thou shalt not steal. But God still loves us;and had provided a door to come to him. That door is his only begotten Son;the faithful obedient Son. Therefore now we go by mercy. Only through mercy we can come to God. And to have that mercy,we need to follow Jesus commandments; and accept his sacrifice. He now is the one door to God. NO SACRIFICE OF JESUS;NO DOOR: NO DOOR; WE ARE LOST. We also have to sacrifice daily,by refusing to touch the unclean thing. Colter; you must accept Gods gift to us, or you will be lost. Satan did not know, that by killing jesus; he is putting the rope around his own neck. Now all can come to God again. And satan does not want that. wakeup.

Strangely Judas is your doorway.

You are welcome to follow that religion ABOUT Jesus.

I prefer the Gospel of The Kingdom of Heaven taught in and around Israel 3 years before your murder of an innocent man as a substitute for action.

I am already in the Kingdome, I am already saved.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,00:38)

Quote Colter. Jesus crucified for our sins is the greatest sacrifice ever. He has been obedient to his father, even giving his own young life. We also must love God;even more than our own life. Jesus has opned the door to God again,for it was closed. The 10 commandments could not bring us to God, because we keep on breaking it. We break one commandment;we are guilty of all, because it is the same God that says, thou shalt not steal. But God still loves us;and had provided a door to come to him. That door is his only begotten Son;the faithful obedient Son. Therefore now we go by mercy. Only through mercy we can come to God. And to have that mercy,we need to follow Jesus commandments; and accept his sacrifice. He now is the one door to God. NO SACRIFICE OF JESUS;NO DOOR: NO DOOR; WE ARE LOST. We also have to sacrifice daily,by refusing to touch the unclean thing. Colter; you must accept Gods gift to us, or you will be  lost. Satan did not know, that by killing jesus; he is putting the rope around his own neck. Now all can come to God again. And satan does not want that. wakeup. Strangely Judas is your doorway. You are welcome to follow that religion ABOUT Jesus. I prefer the Gospel of The Kingdom of Heaven taught in and around Israel 3 years before your murder of an innocent man as a substitute for action. I am already in the Kingdome, I am already saved. Colter

Colter.

The Roman church would claim the same.
We are all saved,because we go to church,and are babtised.

True knowledge can not be acquired from mens teachings of doctrines.
Only from seeking the word of God,and that is *only* the Holy bible.

For all scripture is inspired by God.
Only scripture; not books by men.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2013,00:52)

Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,00:38) Quote Colter. Jesus crucified for our sins is the greatest sacrifice ever. He has been obedient to his father, even giving his own young life. We also must love God;even more than our own life. Jesus has opned the door to God again,for it was closed. The 10 commandments could not bring us to God, because we keep on breaking it. We break one commandment;we are guilty of all, because it is the same God that says, thou shalt not steal. But God still loves us;and had provided a door to come to him. That door is his only begotten Son;the faithful obedient Son. Therefore now we go by mercy. Only through mercy we can come to God. And to have that mercy,we need to follow Jesus commandments; and accept his sacrifice. He now is the one door to God. NO SACRIFICE OF JESUS;NO DOOR: NO DOOR; WE ARE LOST. We also have to sacrifice daily,by refusing to touch the unclean thing. Colter; you must accept Gods gift to us, or you will be  lost. Satan did not know, that by killing jesus; he is putting the rope around his own neck. Now all can come to God again. And satan does not want that. wakeup. Strangely Judas is your doorway. You are welcome to follow that religion ABOUT Jesus. I prefer the Gospel of The Kingdom of Heaven taught in and around Israel 3 years before your murder of an innocent man as a substitute for action. I am already in the Kingdome, I am already saved. Colter Colter. The Roman church would claim the same. We are all saved,because we go to church,and are babtised. True knowledge can not be acquired from mens teachings of doctrines. Only from seeking the word of God,and that is *only* the Holy bible. For all scripture is inspired by God. Only scripture; not books by men. wakeup.

I don't go to church

Salvation is a personal matter between God and the individual.

A sincere heart, repenting if need be, decidedly desirous to be lead by God in all aspects of life, that is real salvation.

No Bible, no UB, no Karan needed….helpful yes, but not mandatory.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,01:23)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2013,00:52) Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,00:38) Quote Colter. Jesus crucified for our sins is the greatest sacrifice ever. He has been obedient to his father, even giving his own young life. We also must love God;even more than our own life. Jesus has opned the door to God again,for it was closed. The 10 commandments could not bring us to God, because we keep on breaking it. We break one commandment;we are guilty of all, because it is the same God that says, thou shalt not steal. But God still loves us;and had provided a door to come to him. That door is his only begotten Son;the faithful obedient Son. Therefore now we go by mercy. Only through mercy we can come to God. And to have that mercy,we need to follow Jesus commandments; and accept his sacrifice. He now is the one door to God. NO SACRIFICE OF JESUS;NO DOOR: NO DOOR; WE ARE LOST. We also have to sacrifice daily,by refusing to touch the unclean thing. Colter; you must accept Gods gift to us, or you will be  lost. Satan did not know, that by killing jesus; he is putting the rope around his own neck. Now all can come to God again. And satan does not want that. wakeup. Strangely Judas is your doorway. You are welcome to follow that religion ABOUT Jesus. I prefer the Gospel of The Kingdom of Heaven taught in and around Israel 3 years before your murder of an innocent man as a substitute for action. I am already in the Kingdome, I am already saved. Colter Colter. The Roman church would claim the same. We are all saved,because we go to church,and are babtised. True knowledge can not be acquired from mens teachings of doctrines. Only from seeking the word of God,and that is *only* the Holy bible. For all scripture is inspired by God. Only scripture; not books by men. wakeup. I don't go to church Salvation is a personal matter between God and the individual. A sincere heart, repenting if need be, decidedly desirous to be lead by God in all aspects of life, that is real salvation. No Bible, no UB, no Karan needed….helpful yes, but not mandatory. Colter

Colter.

So you are your own door way?
A doorway to what?

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2013,01:30)

Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,01:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2013,00:52) Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,00:38) Quote Colter. Jesus crucified for our sins is the greatest sacrifice ever. He has been obedient to his father, even giving his own young life. We also must love God;even more than our own life. Jesus has opned the door to God again,for it was closed. The 10 commandments could not bring us to God, because we keep on breaking it. We break one commandment;we are guilty of all, because it is the same God that says, thou shalt not steal. But God still loves us;and had provided a door to come to him. That door is his only begotten Son;the faithful obedient Son. Therefore now we go by mercy. Only through mercy we can come to God. And to have that mercy,we need to follow Jesus commandments; and accept his sacrifice. He now is the one door to God. NO SACRIFICE OF JESUS;NO DOOR: NO DOOR; WE ARE LOST. We also have to sacrifice daily,by refusing to touch the unclean thing. Colter; you must accept Gods gift to us, or you will be  lost. Satan did not know, that by killing jesus; he is putting the rope around his own neck. Now all can come to God again. And satan does not want that. wakeup. Strangely Judas is your doorway. You are welcome to follow that religion ABOUT Jesus. I prefer the Gospel of The Kingdom of Heaven taught in and around Israel 3 years before your murder of an innocent man as a substitute for action. I am already in the Kingdome, I am already saved. Colter Colter. The Roman church would claim the same. We are all saved,because we go to church,and are babtised. True knowledge can not be acquired from mens teachings of doctrines. Only from seeking the word of God,and that is *only* the Holy bible. For all scripture is inspired by God. Only scripture; not books by men. wakeup. I don't go to church Salvation is a personal matter between God and the individual. A sincere heart, repenting if need be, decidedly desirous to be lead by God in all aspects of life, that is real salvation. No Bible, no UB, no Karan needed….helpful yes, but not mandatory. Colter Colter. So you are your own door way? A doorway to what? wakeup.

God is my doorway.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,02:58)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2013,01:30) Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,01:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2013,00:52) Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,00:38) Quote Colter. Jesus crucified for our sins is the greatest sacrifice ever. He has been obedient to his father, even giving his own young life. We also must love God;even more than our own life. Jesus has opned the door to God again,for it was closed. The 10 commandments could not bring us to God, because we keep on breaking it. We break one commandment;we are guilty of all, because it is the same God that says, thou shalt not steal. But God still loves us;and had provided a door to come to him. That door is his only begotten Son;the faithful obedient Son. Therefore now we go by mercy. Only through mercy we can come to God. And to have that mercy,we need to follow Jesus commandments; and accept his sacrifice. He now is the one door to God. NO SACRIFICE OF JESUS;NO DOOR: NO DOOR; WE ARE LOST. We also have to sacrifice daily,by refusing to touch the unclean thing. Colter; you must accept Gods gift to us, or you will be  lost. Satan did not know, that by killing jesus; he is putting the rope around his own neck. Now all can come to God again. And satan does not want that. wakeup. Strangely Judas is your doorway. You are welcome to follow that religion ABOUT Jesus. I prefer the Gospel of The Kingdom of Heaven taught in and around Israel 3 years before your murder of an innocent man as a substitute for action. I am already in the Kingdome, I am already saved. Colter Colter. The Roman church would claim the same. We are all saved,because we go to church,and are babtised. True knowledge can not be acquired from mens teachings of doctrines. Only from seeking the word of God,and that is *only* the Holy bible. For all scripture is inspired by God. Only scripture; not books by men. wakeup. I don't go to church Salvation is a personal matter between God and the individual. A sincere heart, repenting if need be, decidedly desirous to be lead by God in all aspects of life, that is real salvation. No Bible, no UB, no Karan needed….helpful yes, but not mandatory. Colter Colter. So you are your own door way? A doorway to what? wakeup. God is my doorway. Colter

Colter.

John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, *THE SAME IS A THIEF* *AND A ROBBER*.

Colter: you are a thief and a robber.

wakeup.

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Colter. John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, *THE SAME IS A THIEF* *AND A ROBBER*. Colter: you are a thief and a robber. wakeup.

I have consistently maintained that Jesus is the way to the Father.

You have consistently maintained that the Bible is the only way.

Colter

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,03:34)

Quote Colter. John 10:1   Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, *THE SAME IS A THIEF* *AND A ROBBER*. Colter: you are a thief and a robber. wakeup. I have consistently maintained that Jesus is the way to the Father. You have consistently maintained that the Bible is the only way. Colter

Colter.

You dont seem to understand that Jesus is the word of God,
and the bible *is* the word of God. God speaking through the bible, in print.

God spoke to the old prophets; then God spoke through his Son.
Today God speaks through the bible,all in print,so all the world have a chance to know God.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2013,08:47)

Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,03:34) Quote Colter. John 10:1   Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, *THE SAME IS A THIEF* *AND A ROBBER*. Colter: you are a thief and a robber. wakeup. I have consistently maintained that Jesus is the way to the Father. You have consistently maintained that the Bible is the only way. Colter Colter. You dont seem to understand that Jesus is the word of God, and the bible *is* the word of God. God speaking through the bible, in print. God spoke to the old prophets; then God spoke through his Son. Today God speaks through the bible,all in print,so all the world have a chance to know God. wakeup.

I almost agree with you here, I would say that the Bible is ABOUT the Word, nothing that the human hand has touched can be perfect, that includes the Urantia revelation.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,23:47)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2013,22:48) … It's your problem if you don't like …”forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.” Colter

Hi Colter,

That is only possible because of Jesus' atoning sacrifice for “OUR SINS”!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,01:23)

No Bible, no UB, no Karan needed….helpful yes, but not mandatory. Colter

Hi Colter,

The Karan has been helpful to YOU?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ June 07 2013,11:37)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,23:47) Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2013,22:48) … It's your problem if you don't like …”forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.” Colter Hi Colter, That is only possible because of Jesus' atoning sacrifice for “OUR SINS”! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Jesus taught that prayer long before the cross. God has always been a loving and forgiving Father. God is Love.

You are confusing the religion OF Jesus with any number of other religions around Israel that believed in sacrifice of a divine being. One Pagan religion even had 12 apostles, another had water converted to wine and another had wise men.

Colter

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Quote (Ed J @ June 07 2013,11:40)

Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,01:23) No Bible, no UB, no Karan needed….helpful yes, but not mandatory. Colter Hi Colter, The Karan has been helpful to YOU? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Quran, no.

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,11:55)

Quote (Ed J @ June 07 2013,11:40) Quote (Colter @ June 07 2013,01:23) No Bible, no UB, no Karan needed….helpful yes, but not mandatory. Colter Hi Colter, The Karan has been helpful to YOU? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Quran, no.

OK Colter, thanks; the way you had that worded I wasn't sure.

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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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