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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 21 2009,09:56) Hi tt,
So it is either right or wrong?
The choices of carnal men do not improve these odds.
When did I use the word “proof?”thinker
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 21 2009,09:56) Hi tt,
So it is either right or wrong?
The choices of carnal men do not improve these odds.
So it is “eenie, meenie, minie moe” for you?thinker
Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 20 2009,17:52) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 21 2009,09:40) Hi tt,
So you offer no real evidence?
I offer real evidence. But not conclusive evidence. I have always said that I am not dogmatic about it.Quote The Novum Testamentum Graece is also known as the Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament, and is in its 27th edition as of this writing. The abbreviation for this text is NA27. The Novum Testamentum Graece is published by the German publishing company, Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft. The first version of the Novum Testamentum Graece was published in 1913 by Eberhard Nestle, a German orientalist and Biblical scholar from the late 19th and early 20th century. The Greek text as presented is primarily based on what Biblical textual critics generally refer to as the “critical text”. That is, the oldest fragments of New Testament texts that have been found. Many believe this body of biblical fragments represent a more reliable source and a more accurate representation of the Autographa that is, the original handwritten copies of the documents that make up the New Testament. However, every textual variant, that is, differences between fragments that have been discovered, is meticulously noted in the apparatus – the extensive footnotes that distinguishes the Novum Testamentum Graece from other Greek New Testaments.
Other scholars note that the larger body of fragments actually reflects what was originally penned more accurately. Since there more of these fragments, they are referred to as the “Majority text”. Thus, many divinity schools, New Testament Greek scholars, and others that are engaged in textual criticism of the New Testament tend to divide themselves into two basic camps: Those that prefer the Critical Text, and those that prefer the Majority Text. Most scholars in the late 20th century were Critical Text scholars, and many of the modern English translations are based on Novum Testamentum Graece, and thus primarily based on the Critical text.
The differences between the two bodies of Greek text do not change the overall message of the New Testament, but because a major tenet of Christianity, especially to evangelicals, is the inerrancy of scripture – that is, the Autographa is perfect without error, and reflects the perfect will and revelation of God to mankind – the differences continue to be strongly debated, and the rhetoric can sometime be scathing and derisive. However, since the Novum Testamentum Graece notes all but a few extremely minor variants, a careful scholar can accurately decide for themselves which version of the Greek Text is likely to reflect what the original authors actually wrote. Because of this complete and comprehensive inclusiveness, specifically in the apparatus of the Novum Testamentum Graece, it remains the primary Greek New Testament used by Seminaries throughout the world.
http://en.allexperts.com/e/n/no/novum_testamentum_graece.htmAre you going to tell us how you decide for yourself which manuscripts are more reliable? The source says that you can make an educated decision about it. Will you allow some to think that you have no intellectual basis for what you believe and that you played “eenie, meenie, minie moe” when you chose your Bible?
It says that the NTG remains the “primary” Greek new Testament in Seminaries THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. So it's reading that Jesus saved the people out of Egypt cannot be ignored unless one just wants to bury his head in the sand.
thinker
JackAmen!
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 21 2009,16:45) Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 20 2009,17:52) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 21 2009,09:40) Hi tt,
So you offer no real evidence?
I offer real evidence. But not conclusive evidence. I have always said that I am not dogmatic about it.Quote The Novum Testamentum Graece is also known as the Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament, and is in its 27th edition as of this writing. The abbreviation for this text is NA27. The Novum Testamentum Graece is published by the German publishing company, Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft. The first version of the Novum Testamentum Graece was published in 1913 by Eberhard Nestle, a German orientalist and Biblical scholar from the late 19th and early 20th century. The Greek text as presented is primarily based on what Biblical textual critics generally refer to as the “critical text”. That is, the oldest fragments of New Testament texts that have been found. Many believe this body of biblical fragments represent a more reliable source and a more accurate representation of the Autographa that is, the original handwritten copies of the documents that make up the New Testament. However, every textual variant, that is, differences between fragments that have been discovered, is meticulously noted in the apparatus – the extensive footnotes that distinguishes the Novum Testamentum Graece from other Greek New Testaments.
Other scholars note that the larger body of fragments actually reflects what was originally penned more accurately. Since there more of these fragments, they are referred to as the “Majority text”. Thus, many divinity schools, New Testament Greek scholars, and others that are engaged in textual criticism of the New Testament tend to divide themselves into two basic camps: Those that prefer the Critical Text, and those that prefer the Majority Text. Most scholars in the late 20th century were Critical Text scholars, and many of the modern English translations are based on Novum Testamentum Graece, and thus primarily based on the Critical text.
The differences between the two bodies of Greek text do not change the overall message of the New Testament, but because a major tenet of Christianity, especially to evangelicals, is the inerrancy of scripture – that is, the Autographa is perfect without error, and reflects the perfect will and revelation of God to mankind – the differences continue to be strongly debated, and the rhetoric can sometime be scathing and derisive. However, since the Novum Testamentum Graece notes all but a few extremely minor variants, a careful scholar can accurately decide for themselves which version of the Greek Text is likely to reflect what the original authors actually wrote. Because of this complete and comprehensive inclusiveness, specifically in the apparatus of the Novum Testamentum Graece, it remains the primary Greek New Testament used by Seminaries throughout the world.
http://en.allexperts.com/e/n/no/novum_testamentum_graece.htmAre you going to tell us how you decide for yourself which manuscripts are more reliable? The source says that you can make an educated decision about it. Will you allow some to think that you have no intellectual basis for what you believe and that you played “eenie, meenie, minie moe” when you chose your Bible?
It says that the NTG remains the “primary” Greek new Testament in Seminaries THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. So it's reading that Jesus saved the people out of Egypt cannot be ignored unless one just wants to bury his head in the sand.
thinker
JackAmen!
WJ
Keith,The novices would just rather bury their heads in the sand.
thinker
Hi TT,
So you elevate your thoughts and those who find them facile are defined as novices?
Is such boasting seemly?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 30 2009,04:42) Hi TT,
So you elevate your thoughts and those who find them facile are defined as novices?
Is such boasting seemly?
Did you choose your Bible by the “eenie, meenie minie moe” method or not?thinker
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