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- June 13, 2007 at 12:05 pm#55451IM4TruthParticipant
Rev. 13:3 And I saw one of his heads; as it were wounded to death; and the deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
In the book of Daniel we are told, a beast is a Kingdom-Empire
Dan. 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings,
which shall arise out of the earth.A beast coming up, or rising up out of the sea, is the sea of nations from which one nation rose up stronger then the rest
and conquered the others.
The seven heads on this beast represent the seven major kingdoms of the bible; and John tells us, by his time, five had already come and gone;Rev. 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
This would imply that king-head number 6, is the one that is, is Rome. This would also imply that Rome received the deadly wound. Because five were already gone, and king number 7
was made up of many other kings;Rev.17:12 And the ten horns which thou saweth are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
This of course is referring to verse 3, but the meaning of beast and heads are the same.
Rev.17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
And this is how Rome received the deadly wound:
By the third century, the Roman Empire was divided into east and west; the two legs of iron, Dan. 2:33.
By the start of the fifth century, Rome no longer was what it once was. It had to hire soldiers from other tribes around, to help fight of invaders.
One of these tribes were the Germanic Herulis. Rome hired
these barbarians to defend Italy from other barbarians. Then, in 476 AD, their King Odoacer decided to make Italy his kingdom. He deposed the Roman Emperor Romulus Augustulus. It is this very act, that is the deadly wound. The people of Italy and the west, must have thought, this is the end of the roman empire.
Now, Rome had to look for other allies. In 493 AD, Zeno, the Emperor of the east, commissioned the Ostrogoth, another Germanic barbarian tribe, to deal with the Herulis; which they succeeded in doing. However, not long after the defeat of the Herulis, Theodoric, King of the Ostrogoth, decided to make Italy his kingdom. Nothing changed until Justinian became Emperor in 527 AD. His ambition was to restore Italy to the Empire. His goal was accomplished in 553 AD, under the roman general Belisarius. The defeat of the Ostrogoth and the restoration of Italy to the Empire, is the healing of the deadly wound. And all the people shouted for joy, and most likely said, who is as strong as Rome?Rev. 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
The kingdoms of this world belong to Satan, that includes America. We have to be careful in whom we put our trust.
I hope, this has helped someone to better understand the deadly wound. God bless.
June 24, 2007 at 7:21 pm#56343942767ParticipantHi All:
I'd like to give my understanding of this topic.
In Ezekiel the Word of God states:
Ezekiel 38
1And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,2Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
7Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
8After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
And in Zechariah 14 the word of God States:
Zechariah 14
1Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.2For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
At the current time this is already happening. Radical Isalm is coming against Christians and Jews.
At some point in time God will intervene against them. This is what I believe is the “deady wound that they will receive by the sword”. But in the last 42 months of the present world they will come to power and rule for 42 months. The deadly wound was healed.Relative to God intevening against them I'll give the following scripture:
Ezekiel 38:18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.
19For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
20So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
21And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother.
22And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
23Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
And,
Zech. 14:3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
And also,
Zech 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
13And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
After this intervention by God, there will be a period of peace during which the Temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem. Those Jews who do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah will begin offering animal sacrifices again, but the Anti-Christ will stop them from offering animal sacrifices when he comes to power.
Dan 12:11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
God Bless
June 25, 2007 at 12:43 am#56402IM4TruthParticipant942767: The events you refer too in Ez. 38 and in Zech. 14, are in fact about to come to pass.
The problems in the middle-east are just the beginning of the end.
But they have nothing to do with the deadly wound.
The wound was given to one of the seven heads/kingdoms.
The seven heads/kingdoms were;
1st, Egypt;
2nd, Assyria;
3rd, Babylonian;
4th, Medo-Persia;
5th, Greek;
6th, Rome;
Since the 7th king was a long way off, and was made up with many kings, that
would leave only king number 6, Rome, that received the wound.The rest is covered in my topic. I know I was brief, but I tried to be accurate.
I did not want to bore you with a long history lesson.You may want to check out my topic; “the three horns uprooted”.
I Think you will find it interesting.Thank you 942767, God bless.
June 27, 2007 at 2:00 am#56724942767ParticipantQuote (IM4Truth @ June 25 2007,12:43) 942767: The events you refer too in Ez. 38 and in Zech. 14, are in fact about to come to pass.
The problems in the middle-east are just the beginning of the end.
But they have nothing to do with the deadly wound.
The wound was given to one of the seven heads/kingdoms.
The seven heads/kingdoms were;
1st, Egypt;
2nd, Assyria;
3rd, Babylonian;
4th, Medo-Persia;
5th, Greek;
6th, Rome;
Since the 7th king was a long way off, and was made up with many kings, that
would leave only king number 6, Rome, that received the wound.
The rest is covered in my topic. I know I was brief, but I tried to be accurate.
I did not want to bore you with a long history lesson.
You may want to check out my topic; “the three horns uprooted”.
I Think you will find it interesting.Thank you 942767, God bless.
Hi IM4Truth:I believe that the Anti-Christ will come from Syria because of the following scripture:
Daniel 11:29
At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.
11:30
For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.11:31
And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
11:32
And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
11:33
And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
11:34
Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
11:35
And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
11:36
And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
11:37
Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
11:38
But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
11:39
Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge (8686) and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
11:40
And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
11:41
He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
11:42
He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
11:43
But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.
11:44
But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.
11:45
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.The following verses indicate that Jerusalem will be taken, and so I believe that this is the seventh kingdom that will will rule over Israel, and because of God's invervention (the wound by the sword), they will not rule but a short time, but in the last 42 months of the world as we know it, this kingdom will rule over all of the world.
Zechariah 14
Zechariah 14:1
Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
14:2
For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished (8735) ; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.The following verse indicates that the seventh kingdom will come to power but continue but a short time. (This is because of the wound by the sword. God's intervention)
Rev. 17:10
And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
17:11
And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.Rev. 17:8
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was *, and is not, and yet is.Rev. 13:3
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered (5681) after the beast.
13:4
And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
13:5
And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
13:6
And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
13:7
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
13:9
If any man have an ear, let him hear.Well this is my understanding now. I have in a previous post indicated that the seventh kingdom was the Ottoman Empire, but I believe what I have posted here is more in line with what is presently happening with radical Islam.
God Bless
July 4, 2007 at 1:43 pm#58010IM4TruthParticipantHi 942767; I think you would find my topic, “The King of the north”, interesting.
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