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The passover lamb was to be killed the morning of Nissan 14th, and that night the lamb was to be eaten.
Jesus and his disciples did just that, and that night Jesus was betrayed. The next day the 15th Jesus was crucified and we are told that the next day was the Sabbath, so Jesus died on a Friday. We are clearly told that Jesus rose on the first day of the week, Sunday. This would make the day Jesus was resurrected Nissan 17th.
Please correct me if I have the above wrong.
If people are going to annually celebrate Christ's resurrection, even though we are not told to do so in scripture, why don't they do it on the right day, Nissan 17th?…. Because they do what the RCC tells them to do?…. Because it's more convenient for them to do it on a weekend?
Quote (Jodi Lee @ April 03 2010,10:58) The passover lamb was to be killed the morning of Nissan 14th, and that night the lamb was to be eaten. Jesus and his disciples did just that, and that night Jesus was betrayed. The next day the 15th Jesus was crucified and we are told that the next day was the Sabbath, so Jesus died on a Friday. We are clearly told that Jesus rose on the first day of the week, Sunday. This would make the day Jesus was resurrected Nissan 17th.
Please correct me if I have the above wrong.
If people are going to annually celebrate Christ's resurrection, even though we are not told to do so in scripture, why don't they do it on the right day, Nissan 17th?…. Because they do what the RCC tells them to do?…. Because it's more convenient for them to do it on a weekend?
Hi Jodi:I celebrate the resurrection every day, and so if they have set aside a day to celebrate the resurrection even if it is not the proper day, what does it matter? The same goes for Christmas.
Love in Christ,
MartyUnlike Christmas we have the date, Nissan 17th. So I am just wondering why people don't celebrate the resurrection on that day?
The only thing that I find bothersome, are those that actually claim Easter as a sacred day, and they insist it is a day that would be sinful not to celebrate.
Come on Marty you've got to know that the MAJORITY of people who will celebrate Easter this Sunday celebrate in ignorance thinking it's some true Holy Day, all the while it was created for the Political Gain of a Pagan Emperor, as away to unite pagans and Christians. Not only that but at the same time they are spending that day worshiping Jesus as the One True God.
Quote (Jodi Lee @ April 03 2010,15:00) Unlike Christmas we have the date, Nissan 17th. So I am just wondering why people don't celebrate the resurrection on that day? The only thing that I find bothersome, are those that actually claim Easter as a sacred day, and they insist it is a day that would be sinful not to celebrate.
Come on Marty you've got to know that the MAJORITY of people who will celebrate Easter this Sunday celebrate in ignorance thinking it's some true Holy Day, all the while it was created for the Political Gain of a Pagan Emperor, as away to unite pagans and Christians. Not only that but at the same time they are spending that day worshiping Jesus as the One True God.
Hi Jodi:I said that I celebrate the resurrection every day. I can only set an example for others to follow.
I know that there are no Easter bunnies that lay colored eggs.
Every man will be judged according to his works.
Love in Christ,
MartyHi Marty,
You are a great example, I must say, and I too celebrate the resurrection of our dear Brother everyday.
I feel like I should explain myself a bit more here….
I don't find anything wrong with decorating eggs or egg hunts. That to me is innocent and harmless fun. As well, I don't view paganism as evil per say, but more as dysfuntional, because it lacks truth. YHWH didn't reveal Himself to pagans, they were left to their own imaginations to determine truth. People are judged by what they are given. Pagan ignorance only exposes man's stupidity and his NEED for God's knowledge. The problem I find with Easter however, in relation to Christians is that it exemplifies IMO a lazy faith, a faith where I believe Christ would say, Matthew 15:8 'These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. 9 And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.' “
Quote (Jodi Lee @ April 03 2010,10:58) The passover lamb was to be killed the morning of Nissan 14th, and that night the lamb was to be eaten. Jesus and his disciples did just that, and that night Jesus was betrayed. The next day the 15th Jesus was crucified and we are told that the next day was the Sabbath, so Jesus died on a Friday. We are clearly told that Jesus rose on the first day of the week, Sunday. This would make the day Jesus was resurrected Nissan 17th.
Please correct me if I have the above wrong.
If people are going to annually celebrate Christ's resurrection, even though we are not told to do so in scripture, why don't they do it on the right day, Nissan 17th?…. Because they do what the RCC tells them to do?…. Because it's more convenient for them to do it on a weekend?
Jodi, not everybody may know that,
ONE; the days end and begin with the sunset.Lev 23:4 ¶ These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
TWO; the day “after” the passover is the “first” day of unleavened bread, which has to be kept as a Sabbath, no work etc.
That is why the Jews had to hurry up and put Jesus in a grave, they still had to prepare for that day.
Then on Friday, they had no time either to give Jesus a proper burial because they had to prepare for their weekly Sabbath.
Then on Sunday morning, very early, when the woman came to do just that; Jesus was already risen.
That means, Jesus died on a Wednesday, and was buried before sundown.Georg
Georg,
I agree, Jesus died on what to us is Wed. evening near sunset. For the Israelites one day changed to another at sunset So Jesus was dead for 24 hours of Thursday, 24 hours of Friday, and 24 hours of Saturday, the resurrection occurred what for us would be Saturday evening near sunset. This had Jesus dead at the 3 days and 3 nights just as He had proclaimed would be the only sign to be given.There is no way you can get 3 days and 3 nights starting on Friday.
39He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
My opinion – Wm
Quote (Elizabeth @ April 03 2010,06:45) Quote (Jodi Lee @ April 03 2010,10:58) The passover lamb was to be killed the morning of Nissan 14th, and that night the lamb was to be eaten. Jesus and his disciples did just that, and that night Jesus was betrayed. The next day the 15th Jesus was crucified and we are told that the next day was the Sabbath, so Jesus died on a Friday. We are clearly told that Jesus rose on the first day of the week, Sunday. This would make the day Jesus was resurrected Nissan 17th.
Please correct me if I have the above wrong.
If people are going to annually celebrate Christ's resurrection, even though we are not told to do so in scripture, why don't they do it on the right day, Nissan 17th?…. Because they do what the RCC tells them to do?…. Because it's more convenient for them to do it on a weekend?
Jodi, not everybody may know that,
ONE; the days end and begin with the sunset.Lev 23:4 ¶ These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
TWO; the day “after” the passover is the “first” day of unleavened bread, which has to be kept as a Sabbath, no work etc.
That is why the Jews had to hurry up and put Jesus in a grave, they still had to prepare for that day.
Then on Friday, they had no time either to give Jesus a proper burial because they had to prepare for their weekly Sabbath.
Then on Sunday morning, very early, when the woman came to do just that; Jesus was already risen.
That means, Jesus died on a Wednesday, and was buried before sundown.Georg
Hi Georg,
Good post. I was told that a part of a day was counted as one day in the Jewish thinking so, I think He died about 3 pm on a Thursday and Thursday counted as one day dead. He rose just before sun up on Sunday. That is how I understand it anyway.To all,
Here are a couple of good links to help explain the Christian passover celebration:http://www.wcg.org/lit/church/holidays/easter.htm
http://www.biblestudy.org/biblere….-1.htmlHappy Resurrection Day tomorrow!
Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2010,04:07) Quote (Elizabeth @ April 03 2010,06:45) Quote (Jodi Lee @ April 03 2010,10:58) The passover lamb was to be killed the morning of Nissan 14th, and that night the lamb was to be eaten. Jesus and his disciples did just that, and that night Jesus was betrayed. The next day the 15th Jesus was crucified and we are told that the next day was the Sabbath, so Jesus died on a Friday. We are clearly told that Jesus rose on the first day of the week, Sunday. This would make the day Jesus was resurrected Nissan 17th.
Please correct me if I have the above wrong.
If people are going to annually celebrate Christ's resurrection, even though we are not told to do so in scripture, why don't they do it on the right day, Nissan 17th?…. Because they do what the RCC tells them to do?…. Because it's more convenient for them to do it on a weekend?
Jodi, not everybody may know that,
ONE; the days end and begin with the sunset.Lev 23:4 ¶ These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
TWO; the day “after” the passover is the “first” day of unleavened bread, which has to be kept as a Sabbath, no work etc.
That is why the Jews had to hurry up and put Jesus in a grave, they still had to prepare for that day.
Then on Friday, they had no time either to give Jesus a proper burial because they had to prepare for their weekly Sabbath.
Then on Sunday morning, very early, when the woman came to do just that; Jesus was already risen.
That means, Jesus died on a Wednesday, and was buried before sundown.Georg
Hi Georg,
Good post. I was told that a part of a day was counted as one day in the Jewish thinking so, I think He died about 3 pm on a Thursday and Thursday counted as one day dead. He rose just before sun up on Sunday. That is how I understand it anyway.
Jesus said, three days and tree nights, not half days.
That thinking is not in Jewish tradition, they start and end their days at sundown.Georg
While I believe it to be Wednesday, Thursday is also possible, but no way can it be Friday, each day has scriptures that must be explained (something I do not like to do but it is necessary at times) for me Wednesday has the least. But, whatever day of the week it was, the one thing I believe strongly is that Jesus died at the very time that the lamb died for passover.
My opinion – Wm
Quote (Elizabeth @ April 05 2010,01:20) Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2010,04:07) Quote (Elizabeth @ April 03 2010,06:45) Quote (Jodi Lee @ April 03 2010,10:58) The passover lamb was to be killed the morning of Nissan 14th, and that night the lamb was to be eaten. Jesus and his disciples did just that, and that night Jesus was betrayed. The next day the 15th Jesus was crucified and we are told that the next day was the Sabbath, so Jesus died on a Friday. We are clearly told that Jesus rose on the first day of the week, Sunday. This would make the day Jesus was resurrected Nissan 17th.
Please correct me if I have the above wrong.
If people are going to annually celebrate Christ's resurrection, even though we are not told to do so in scripture, why don't they do it on the right day, Nissan 17th?…. Because they do what the RCC tells them to do?…. Because it's more convenient for them to do it on a weekend?
Jodi, not everybody may know that,
ONE; the days end and begin with the sunset.Lev 23:4 ¶ These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
TWO; the day “after” the passover is the “first” day of unleavened bread, which has to be kept as a Sabbath, no work etc.
That is why the Jews had to hurry up and put Jesus in a grave, they still had to prepare for that day.
Then on Friday, they had no time either to give Jesus a proper burial because they had to prepare for their weekly Sabbath.
Then on Sunday morning, very early, when the woman came to do just that; Jesus was already risen.
That means, Jesus died on a Wednesday, and was buried before sundown.Georg
Hi Georg,
Good post. I was told that a part of a day was counted as one day in the Jewish thinking so, I think He died about 3 pm on a Thursday and Thursday counted as one day dead. He rose just before sun up on Sunday. That is how I understand it anyway.
Jesus said, three days and tree nights, not half days.
That thinking is not in Jewish tradition, they start and end their days at sundown.Georg
Georg and William,
I understand the thinking you have behind what you are saying. However, I do think that day one was the day that He died and was Thursday. I think the sabboths were back to back since the women didn't return to the tomb to prepare the body till the first day of the week. If there was a day in between the sabboths as you propose, they would have had time to prepare the body on Friday.Another reason I think that it was a Thursday crucifixion is because of what the men on the road to Emmaus said to the resurrected Christ. Read this:
Luke 24:13-29
The Road to Emmaus 13 And behold, two of them were going that very day to a village named Emmaus, which was about seven miles from Jerusalem.
14 And they were talking with each other about all these things which had taken place.
15 While they were talking and discussing, Jesus Himself approached and began traveling with them.
16 But their eyes were prevented from recognizing Him.
17 And He said to them, “What are these words that you are exchanging with one another as you are walking?” And they stood still, looking sad.
18 One of them, named Cleopas, answered and said to Him, “Are You the only one visiting Jerusalem and unaware of the things which have happened here in these days?”
19 And He said to them, “What things?” And they said to Him, “The things about Jesus the Nazarene, who was a prophet mighty in deed and word in the sight of God and all the people,
20 and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to the sentence of death, and crucified Him.
21 “But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is the third day since these things happened.
22 “But also some women among us amazed us. When they were at the tomb early in the morning,
23 and did not find His body, they came, saying that they had also seen a vision of angels who said that He was alive.
24 “Some of those who were with us went to the tomb and found it just exactly as the women also had said; but Him they did not see.”
25 And He said to them, “O foolish men and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken!
26 “Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and to enter into His glory?”
27 Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures.
28 And they approached the village where they were going, and He acted as though He were going farther.
29 But they urged Him, saying, “Stay with us, for it is getting toward evening, and the day is now nearly over.” So He went in to stay with them.
NASUIf you were talking to someone on a late Sunday afternoon and mentioned that it was the third day since your friend was arrested and killed…what day was it that your friend was arrested and killed?
Let's count the days in reverse:
Sunday afternoon to Saturday afternoon…one day
Saturday afternoon to Friday afternoon…two days
Friday afternoon to Thursday afternoon…three daysSo, that cleared it up for me.
KathiQuote (Lightenup @ April 05 2010,13:31) Quote (Elizabeth @ April 05 2010,01:20) Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2010,04:07) Quote (Elizabeth @ April 03 2010,06:45) Quote (Jodi Lee @ April 03 2010,10:58) The passover lamb was to be killed the morning of Nissan 14th, and that night the lamb was to be eaten. Jesus and his disciples did just that, and that night Jesus was betrayed. The next day the 15th Jesus was crucified and we are told that the next day was the Sabbath, so Jesus died on a Friday. We are clearly told that Jesus rose on the first day of the week, Sunday. This would make the day Jesus was resurrected Nissan 17th.
Please correct me if I have the above wrong.
If people are going to annually celebrate Christ's resurrection, even though we are not told to do so in scripture, why don't they do it on the right day, Nissan 17th?…. Because they do what the RCC tells them to do?…. Because it's more convenient for them to do it on a weekend?
Jodi, not everybody may know that,
ONE; the days end and begin with the sunset.Lev 23:4 ¶ These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
TWO; the day “after” the passover is the “first” day of unleavened bread, which has to be kept as a Sabbath, no work etc.
That is why the Jews had to hurry up and put Jesus in a grave, they still had to prepare for that day.
Then on Friday, they had no time either to give Jesus a proper burial because they had to prepare for their weekly Sabbath.
Then on Sunday morning, very early, when the woman came to do just that; Jesus was already risen.
That means, Jesus died on a Wednesday, and was buried before sundown.Georg
Hi Georg,
Good post. I was told that a part of a day was counted as one day in the Jewish thinking so, I think He died about 3 pm on a Thursday and Thursday counted as one day dead. He rose just before sun up on Sunday. That is how I understand it anyway.
Jesus said, three days and tree nights, not half days.
That thinking is not in Jewish tradition, they start and end their days at sundown.Georg
Georg and William,
I understand the thinking you have behind what you are saying. However, I do think that day one was the day that He died and was Thursday. I think the sabboths were back to back since the women didn't return to the tomb to prepare the body till the first day of the week. If there was a day in between the sabboths as you propose, they would have had time to prepare the body on Friday.Another reason I think that it was a Thursday crucifixion is because of what the men on the road to Emmaus said to the resurrected Christ. Read this:
Luke 24:13-29
The Road to Emmaus 13 And behold, two of them were going that very day to a village named Emmaus, which was about seven miles from Jerusalem.
14 And they were talking with each other about all these things which had taken place.
15 While they were talking and discussing, Jesus Himself approached and began traveling with them.
16 But their eyes were prevented from recognizing Him.
17 And He said to them, “What are these words that you are exchanging with one another as you are walking?” And they stood still, looking sad.
18 One of them, named Cleopas, answered and said to Him, “Are You the only one visiting Jerusalem and unaware of the things which have happened here in these days?”
19 And He said to them, “What things?” And they said to Him, “The things about Jesus the Nazarene, who was a prophet mighty in deed and word in the sight of God and all the people,
20 and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to the sentence of death, and crucified Him.
21 “But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is the third day since these things happened.
22 “But also some women among us amazed us. When they were at the tomb early in the morning,
23 and did not find His body, they came, saying that they had also seen a vision of angels who said that He was alive.
24 “Some of those who were with us went to the tomb and found it just exactly as the women also had said; but Him they did not see.”
25 And He said to them, “O foolish men and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken!
26 “Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and to enter into His glory?”
27 Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures.
28 And they approached the village where they were going, and He acted as though He were going farther.
29 But they urged Him, saying, “Stay with us, for it is getting toward evening, and the day is now nearly over.” So He went in to stay with them.
NASUIf you were talking to someone on a late Sunday afternoon and mentioned that it was the third day since your friend was arrested and killed…what day was it that your friend was arrested and killed?
Let's count the days in reverse:
Sunday afternoon to Saturday afternoon…one day
Saturday afternoon to Friday afternoon…two days
Friday afternoon to Thursday afternoon…three daysSo, that cleared it up for me.
Kathi
Well, Georg…William,
What do you think about what the men on the road to Emmaus said?Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2010,13:31) Quote (Elizabeth @ April 05 2010,01:20) Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2010,04:07) Quote (Elizabeth @ April 03 2010,06:45) Quote (Jodi Lee @ April 03 2010,10:58) The passover lamb was to be killed the morning of Nissan 14th, and that night the lamb was to be eaten. Jesus and his disciples did just that, and that night Jesus was betrayed. The next day the 15th Jesus was crucified and we are told that the next day was the Sabbath, so Jesus died on a Friday. We are clearly told that Jesus rose on the first day of the week, Sunday. This would make the day Jesus was resurrected Nissan 17th.
Please correct me if I have the above wrong.
If people are going to annually celebrate Christ's resurrection, even though we are not told to do so in scripture, why don't they do it on the right day, Nissan 17th?…. Because they do what the RCC tells them to do?…. Because it's more convenient for them to do it on a weekend?
Jodi, not everybody may know that,
ONE; the days end and begin with the sunset.Lev 23:4 ¶ These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
TWO; the day “after” the passover is the “first” day of unleavened bread, which has to be kept as a Sabbath, no work etc.
That is why the Jews had to hurry up and put Jesus in a grave, they still had to prepare for that day.
Then on Friday, they had no time either to give Jesus a proper burial because they had to prepare for their weekly Sabbath.
Then on Sunday morning, very early, when the woman came to do just that; Jesus was already risen.
That means, Jesus died on a Wednesday, and was buried before sundown.Georg
Hi Georg,
Good post. I was told that a part of a day was counted as one day in the Jewish thinking so, I think He died about 3 pm on a Thursday and Thursday counted as one day dead. He rose just before sun up on Sunday. That is how I understand it anyway.
Jesus said, three days and tree nights, not half days.
That thinking is not in Jewish tradition, they start and end their days at sundown.Georg
Georg and William,
I understand the thinking you have behind what you are saying. However, I do think that day one was the day that He died and was Thursday. I think the sabboths were back to back since the women didn't return to the tomb to prepare the body till the first day of the week. If there was a day in between the sabboths as you propose, they would have had time to prepare the body on Friday.Another reason I think that it was a Thursday crucifixion is because of what the men on the road to Emmaus said to the resurrected Christ. Read this:
Luke 24:13-29
The Road to Emmaus 13 And behold, two of them were going that very day to a village named Emmaus, which was about seven miles from Jerusalem.
14 And they were talking with each other about all these things which had taken place.
15 While they were talking and discussing, Jesus Himself approached and began traveling with them.
16 But their eyes were prevented from recognizing Him.
17 And He said to them, “What are these words that you are exchanging with one another as you are walking?” And they stood still, looking sad.
18 One of them, named Cleopas, answered and said to Him, “Are You the only one visiting Jerusalem and unaware of the things which have happened here in these days?”
19 And He said to them, “What things?” And they said to Him, “The things about Jesus the Nazarene, who was a prophet mighty in deed and word in the sight of God and all the people,
20 and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to the sentence of death, and crucified Him.
21 “But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is the third day since these things happened.
22 “But also some women among us amazed us. When they were at the tomb early in the morning,
23 and did not find His body, they came, saying that they had also seen a vision of angels who said that He was alive.
24 “Some of those who were with us went to the tomb and found it just exactly as the women also had said; but Him they did not see.”
25 And He said to them, “O foolish men and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken!
26 “Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and to enter into His glory?”
27 Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures.
28 And they approached the village where they were going, and He acted as though He were going farther.
29 But they urged Him, saying, “Stay with us, for it is getting toward evening, and the day is now nearly over.” So He went in to stay with them.
NASUIf you were talking to someone on a late Sunday afternoon and mentioned that it was the third day since your friend was arrested and killed…what day was it that your friend was arrested and killed?
Let's count the days in reverse:
Sunday afternoon to Saturday afternoon…one day
Saturday afternoon to Friday afternoon…two days
Friday afternoon to Thursday afternoon…three daysSo, that cleared it up for me.
Kathi
KathiI agree, those scriptures prove it could not be Wednsday and they prove that it was the first day of the week that Jesus rose from the dead.
Yeshua also would have had to rise on Sunday the first day of the week for these reasons…
A. Day of first fruits and Pentecost always fell on a Sunday:
1. New Bible dictionary, Passover:
o“The Sadducees celebrated it on the 50th day (inclusive reckoning) from the first Sunday after Passover (taking the ‘Sabbath’ of Lv. 23:15 to be the weekly Sabbath); their reckoning regulated the public observance so long as the Temple stood, and the church is therefore justified in commemorating the first Christian Pentecost on a Sunday (Whit Sunday). The Pharisees, however, interpreted the ‘Sabbath’ of Lv. 23:15 as the Festival of Unleavened Bread (cf. Lv. 23:7), and their reckoning became normative in Judaism after ad 70, so that in the Jewish calendar Pentecost now falls on various days of the week.” (New Bible dictionary, Passover)
2. Still fell on Sunday in 33 AD!
oEven if the Sabbath of Lev 23:11&15 is not the weekly Sabbath, but a reference to the first day of
unleavened bread, being the Sabbath, the Wave/ sheaf/ First fruits offering AND Pentecost still fell on Sunday in 33 AD, the year Jesus was crucified!!!
oThose who say Jesus was crucified on a Thursday or Wednesday cannot absolutely guarantee that first fruits and Pentecost always fell on a Sunday because they must use a different year (ie. 30 AD) in which Nisan 14 would not fall on a Friday.B. Passover the type of Christ’s crucifixion
1.Friday: Exodus = Passover meal = Christ crucified type of the crucifixion day Nisan 14C. Wave/ sheaf/ first fruits the type of Christ’s resurrection
1.1 Cor 15:20 But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep.
2.Sunday: First fruits = Christ raised (the Omer, or day of first fruits, a clear type of the resurrection day, but not a Sabbath day!) Lev 23:10-12
3.The Israelites were instructed to be ready to leave Egypt at daybreak on the 15th (morning of the 15th). (Ex 12:1-13) They then traveled day and night for the next few days first to Etham and then to Pi Hahiroth where they encamped by the sea. (Ex 13:20-14:2) After the Egyptians appeared, the Lord parted the Red Sea all that night (Ex 14:21) from which the Israelites emerged on the other side as the day was dawning and at which time the sea covered the Egyptians. (Ex 14:27) This event is a shadow of the fulfillment of the day of First Fruits. Therefore the people of Israel were “saved” by coming through the Red Sea on the same day of the year and same time of day that Jesus rose from the dead as the “savior” of all who will turn to him–Nisan 17, before dawn. Source.Yeshua is the first fruit of the New Creation. The number 8 is the number of the circumcision and means “New Beginnings”.
The eigth day is a Sunday anyway you cut it.Blessings WJ
So Keith,
Do you think that a Thursday crucifixion fits the three days and three nights sign of Jonah, and what the men on the road to Emmaus said, better than a Friday crucifixion?Kathi
21 “But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is the third day since these things happened.
29 But they urged Him, saying, “Stay with us, for it is getting toward evening, and the day is now nearly over.” So He went in to stay with them.
This was Sunday evening, the “fourth” day; the third day ended Saturday evening, that is why they said; it has been three days. A Jew would not have been aloud to walk that far on a Sabbath/Saturday.
Georg
Quote (Elizabeth @ April 11 2010,21:22) Kathi 21 “But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is the third day since these things happened.
29 But they urged Him, saying, “Stay with us, for it is getting toward evening, and the day is now nearly over.” So He went in to stay with them.
This was Sunday evening, the “fourth” day; the third day ended Saturday evening, that is why they said; it has been three days. A Jew would not have been aloud to walk that far on a Sabbath/Saturday.
Georg
Georg,
I realize that the men are walking on a late Sunday afternoon. They say “it is the third day” since these things happened. They do not say “it is the fourth day” since these things happened. That is why the crucifixion had to be on a Thursday.It doesn't say “it has been three days.”
It says “it IS the third day” since these things happened.Again, let's count the days backwards:
Sunday afternoon to Saturday afternoon- one day
Saturday afternoon to Friday afternoon- two days
Friday afternoon to Thursday afternoon- three daysThe men on the road to Emmaus said that Sunday was the third day since Jesus was arrested and crucified.
Here it is in several translations:
Luke 24:21
NET ©
But we had hoped 1 that he was the one who was going to redeem 2 Israel. Not only this, but it is now the third day since these things happened.NIV ©
but we had hoped that he was the one who was going to redeem Israel. And what is more, it is the third day since all this took place.NASB ©
“But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is the third day since these things happened.NLT ©
We had thought he was the Messiah who had come to rescue Israel. That all happened three days ago.MSG ©
And we had our hopes up that he was the One, the One about to deliver Israel. And it is now the third day since it happened.BBE ©
But we were hoping that he would be the Saviour of Israel. In addition to all this he has now let three days go by from the time when these things took place;NRSV ©
But we had hoped that he was the one to redeem Israel. Yes, and besides all this, it is now the third day since these things took place.NKJV ©
“But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, today is the third day since these things happened.Kathi
Jhn 19:31 ¶ The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
That high day was the first day of unleavened bread; the first of seven high days, it follows the passover. Had it been the weekly sabbath they would not have called it a high day.
You also can not count from the time the disciples were walking with Jesus, you have to count from when he was resurrected, and if you remember, the woman came to the grave the first day of the week, Sunday, very early, it was still dark, and the tomb was empty.
Had Jesus been buried on Thursday evening he would not have been resurrected till Sunday evening.Georg
Quote (Elizabeth @ April 12 2010,22:26) Kathi Jhn 19:31 ¶ The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
That high day was the first day of unleavened bread; the first of seven high days, it follows the passover. Had it been the weekly sabbath they would not have called it a high day.
You also can not count from the time the disciples were walking with Jesus, you have to count from when he was resurrected, and if you remember, the woman came to the grave the first day of the week, Sunday, very early, it was still dark, and the tomb was empty.
Had Jesus been buried on Thursday evening he would not have been resurrected till Sunday evening.Georg
Georg,
I suppose we have taken this as far as it is going to go. We disagree but it is not over something major, so that's good.I do understand the high day sabboth and I see that as from Thursday evening starting at sunset and going till Friday evening up to sunset. I also see how a part of the day is considered a counted day.
Remember, the men that were on the road to Emmaus did not understand the resurrection yet and so I don't believe they were referring to that when they mentioned that Sunday was the third day since those things took place. Jesus died around 3 pm and His spirit and soul left at that time. A question is where did His soul go after it left His body? Did it descend to Hades which could be considered the depths of the earth which the sign of Jonah refers to. This verse doesn't talk about a body in Hades but a soul that was not abandoned to Hades:
Acts 2:27
27 BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT ABANDON MY SOUL TO HADES, NOR ALLOW YOUR HOLY ONE TO UNDERGO DECAY.
NASUHades is a “descent”:
Matt 11:23
23 “And you, Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will you? You will descend to Hades;
NASUAnyway, my point about Jesus' soul descending to Hades around 3 pm places Jesus in the depths of the earth long before His body was in the tomb. It is easier to count that as a day than if a day was counted for the little while the body was in the tomb before sunset.
Kathi
Quote (Jodi Lee @ April 03 2010,10:58) The passover lamb was to be killed the morning of Nissan 14th, and that night the lamb was to be eaten. Jesus and his disciples did just that, and that night Jesus was betrayed. The next day the 15th Jesus was crucified and we are told that the next day was the Sabbath, so Jesus died on a Friday. We are clearly told that Jesus rose on the first day of the week, Sunday. This would make the day Jesus was resurrected Nissan 17th.
Please correct me if I have the above wrong.
If people are going to annually celebrate Christ's resurrection, even though we are not told to do so in scripture, why don't they do it on the right day, Nissan 17th?…. Because they do what the RCC tells them to do?…. Because it's more convenient for them to do it on a weekend?
The Sabbath was an annual Sabbath and Jesus died on Wednesday night right before Sundown. That is one night one day Thursday, second night Thursday, second day Friday, third night Friday and third Day Saturday. Jesus rose from the death Saturday right before sundown so when Maria and Maria Magdalene came early in the morning Jesus was not there….Friday resurrection is totally wrong…..You of all people should know that….
Peace and Love Irene
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