The cross….not the correct symbol for adoration

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2010,13:39)

    Quote (princess of the king @ April 22 2010,13:17)
    Irene,

    At times women, I have a difficult time understanding what you are trying to teach, You and Georg have well established with most on this board your belief, that being said is there anything else you would like to share with us.

    It seems to say the least that most threads on the board end up with the trinity being brought up, I personally, will not give it much more attention, it has become fruitless to say the least, there are other things to discuss with truth seekers other then the triad worship, otherwise unless in general converstaion.  

    As stead fast as we are not to believe, they themselves are steadfast in believing. When I first heard of the trinity teachings I thought ones to be mad, then as time goes by, I still think they are mad, and I have wasted much time and devotion to something I should have not. As is such in life, time to move on do you not think and find other things to speak of yes?

    I agree it is spiritual nothing physical, and I will continue with Sabbath also Irene, if you would like to hold this against me, I can live with it. I do not see me partaking in Sabbath to be a stumbling block for you and Georg.

    I am sure what you call the adversary has been busy all along, I personally think the time is only the beginning, much is yet to come, we just must be prepared for the coming of it all.

    I have have kept a rule of thumb regarding Paul, he is not Christ. Pauls teachings are not above Christ's teachings.

    Take care Irene.


    Hi POK,
    Christ was in Paul.[Gal]
    Do you think his teachings are somehow less inspired than those of the Son of God?


    Nick,

    By your statement I take it you do not, I am not a Pauline Christian, have not thought you to be one either, correct me if I am wrong, though.

    #188263
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi POK,
    Should you try to divide the head from the body of Christ?
    Paul and the brothers were indwelled by Christs' Spirit continuing his work.

    So should we be.

    #188264

    Nick, actually I prefer Kepha and John over Paul also.

    Do you suggest that I take Paul's teaching above all others?

    #188265
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi POK,
    You are fit to divide between the brothers?
    Are you greater?

    #188335
    Elizabeth
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ April 22 2010,00:54)
    Hi all,

    Does anyone notice also that Jesus said to commemorate his death – not once a year – but “As often as you meet”.

    “Easter” (Yes, it's a pagan word) is not just for Easter, but for 'Life', literally?


    That's right, because Jesus died, we will live.

    Georg

    #188367

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2010,14:15)
    Hi POK,
    You are fit to divide between the brothers?
    Are you greater?


    Hey Nick,

    Your statement, provides that you prefer Paul's teachings over the others.

    Who is greater then the Master?

    #188368
    karmarie
    Participant

    If I can just join in for a mo, someone sent me this, (so its not my fault if theres any errors in it!)..

    Noah was a drunk
    Abraham was too old
    Isaac was a daydreamer
    Jacob was a liar
    Leah was ugly
    Joseph was abused
    Moses had a stuttering problem
    Gideon was afraid
    Samson had long hair and was a womanizer
    Rahab was a prostitute
    Jeremiah and Timothy were too young
    David had an affair and was a murderer
    Elijah was suicidal
    Isaiah preached naked
    Jonah ran from God
    Naomi was a widow
    Job went bankrupt
    John the Baptist ate bugs
    Peter denied Christ
    The Disciples fell asleep while praying
    Martha worried about everything
    The Samaritan woman was divorced, more than once
    Zaccheus was too small
    Paul was too religious
    Timothy had an ulcer…
    AND Lazarus was dead!

    No more excuses now!! God can use you to your full potential. Besides you aren't the message, you are just the messenger.

    #188373
    Elizabeth
    Participant

    :)  :laugh:  :D  very good

    They forgot Jesus was glutenous and a winebibber.

    Georg

    #188443

    Quote (Elizabeth @ April 21 2010,16:42)
    Princess

    It was Pope Gregory XIII who changed Caesar's calendar in 1585, the reason, so that all churches would celebrate the resurrection on the same date. Although a physician from Naples proposed the new calendar, the pope got the credit.

    Georg


    Thank you Georg,

    So he did what Constatine did, combined many to form one.

    #188460
    karmarie
    Participant

    Quote (Elizabeth @ April 23 2010,03:16)
    :)  :laugh:  :D  very good

    They forgot Jesus was glutenous and a winebibber.

    Georg


    Hi Georg I thought it was pretty cool too!

    #188506
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Quote (karmarie @ April 22 2010,08:05)
    If I can just join in for a mo, someone sent me this, (so its not my fault if theres any errors in it!)..

    Noah was a drunk
    Abraham was too old
    Isaac was a daydreamer
    Jacob was a liar
    Leah was ugly
    Joseph was abused
    Moses had a stuttering problem
    Gideon was afraid
    Samson had long hair and was a womanizer
    Rahab was a prostitute
    Jeremiah and Timothy were too young
    David had an affair and was a murderer
    Elijah was suicidal
    Isaiah preached naked
    Jonah ran from God
    Naomi was a widow
    Job went bankrupt
    John the Baptist ate bugs
    Peter denied Christ
    The Disciples fell asleep while praying
    Martha worried about everything
    The Samaritan woman was divorced, more than once
    Zaccheus was too small
    Paul was too religious
    Timothy had an ulcer…
    AND Lazarus was dead!

    No more excuses now!! God can use you to your full potential. Besides you aren't the message, you are just the messenger.


    Interesting list Karmarie,

    Recently I heard that John the Baptist probably ate off the Locust tree instead of the bugs. Here is an interesting link regarding that:

    http://antipas.net/14faq.htm

    It does encourage us that we may be useful afterall!

    #188546
    karmarie
    Participant

    Hi LU, it does. Was Paul a false Prohet though? Nah- religeous maybe, but- a chosen vessel!

    #188552
    Elizabeth
    Participant

    Quote (karmarie @ April 23 2010,22:53)
    Hi LU, it does. Was Paul a false Prohet though? Nah- religeous maybe, but- a chosen vessel!


    karm. Why would you even think that Paul was a false prophet. Jesus appeared to Him and was blinded, Jesus called Him to be an Apostle and was send to the Gentiles Nations, to spread the Good News……

    #188560
    karmarie
    Participant

    Quote (Elizabeth @ April 24 2010,04:36)

    Quote (karmarie @ April 23 2010,22:53)
    Hi LU, it does. Was Paul a false Prohet though? Nah- religeous maybe, but- a chosen vessel!


    karm. Why would you even think that Paul was a false prophet.  Jesus appeared to Him and was blinded, Jesus called Him to be an Apostle and was send to the Gentiles Nations, to spread the Good News……


    Georg or Irene? Go back to the previous page and you will see the conversation had become about the Apostle Paul, the point I was trying to make is that no-one is perfect and God can use anyone to be a vessel and Paul was a really important one, exactly as you said.

    #188574

    Quote (karmarie @ April 24 2010,09:00)

    Quote (Elizabeth @ April 24 2010,04:36)

    Quote (karmarie @ April 23 2010,22:53)
    Hi LU, it does. Was Paul a false Prohet though? Nah- religeous maybe, but- a chosen vessel!


    karm. Why would you even think that Paul was a false prophet.  Jesus appeared to Him and was blinded, Jesus called Him to be an Apostle and was send to the Gentiles Nations, to spread the Good News……


    Georg or Irene? Go back to the previous page and you will see the conversation had become about the Apostle Paul, the point I was trying to make is that no-one is perfect and God can use anyone to be a vessel and Paul was a really important one, exactly as you said.


    Here all along, they oust Thomas for saying a women must become like a man to enter into the kingdom.

    #188575

    So Karmarie, how important is Paul?

    If one did not have his teachings would one's belief be different?

    Is his writings so important that no one would be able to enter into the kingdom without them.

    #188582
    karmarie
    Participant

    Quote (princess of the king @ April 24 2010,14:44)
    So Karmarie, how important is Paul?

    If one did not have his teachings would one's belief be different?

    Is his writings so important that no one would be able to enter into the kingdom without them.


    Hi POK,

    Though there are parts of Pauls writtings which are hard to understand, and the Words of Jesus should always take precedence, Paul was an important part of the spreading of the Gospel to the Whole World. He has my admiration. I could say so much more but I have to go out. (multi tasking right now) Jesus is our Lord though and His Words. Paul was a vessel who Jesus worked through.

    #188609

    Will await for you tasks to be complete for your response.

    Take care of yourself Karmarie and thank you.

    #188638
    Laurel
    Participant

    To: The one,
    I like your post. You are correct that the cross is not a symbol of Christianity. The cross is actually a symbol of pagan Rome! The cross goes back to Babylon and was their symbol as well.

    The cross is a death symbol and not a life symbol. Those who know the Messiah will not wear a cross or bow at the foot of a cross because they know when they do, they are promoting the death and not the life of the Son, and they are promoting paganisim, and not true Christianity.

    Thank you for your post.

    #188696
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Laurel @ April 25 2010,09:13)
    To: The one,
    I like your post. You are correct that the cross is not a symbol of Christianity. The cross is actually a symbol of pagan Rome! The cross goes back to Babylon and was their symbol as well.

    The cross is a death symbol and not a life symbol. Those who know the Messiah will not wear a cross or bow at the foot of a cross because they know when they do, they are promoting the death and not the life of the Son, and they are promoting paganisim, and not true Christianity.

    Thank you for your post.


    Hi Laurel,

    Do you think Zech.5:1-4 represents the idea of a 'cross' inside of buildings?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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