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- June 19, 2010 at 4:25 pm#198421RokkaManParticipant
This video shows how Jesus is God…call it Dogma all you want.
I call it supernatural design and believe it with faith.
seems too good to not be true. The kind of thing expected in our gracious Lord.
Jesus is GOD IN FLESH AMEN!!!
June 19, 2010 at 9:03 pm#198460NickHassanParticipantHi RM,
Do you think by shouting your ideas they become truth?
Jesus Christ came in the flesh is what is writtenJune 20, 2010 at 1:57 am#198556RokkaManParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 20 2010,08:03) Hi RM,
Do you think by shouting your ideas they become truth?
Jesus Christ came in the flesh is what is written
This isn't my idea, this is actually written in Genesis 5…and if you go to any baby name website, and find out the english translation to the names listed in the genology…it all checks out.So these aren't my ideas…these are scripture.
Nick, the bible says, a fool is thought to be wise as long as he keeps silent.
The more and more you open your mouth, the less and less I desire to communicate with you.
You don't ever have a valid position, so why don't you stop posting on my threads?
June 20, 2010 at 1:58 am#198558NickHassanParticipantHi RM,
Your threads?
This is a public site.
Please stay on subjectJune 20, 2010 at 2:02 am#198562RokkaManParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 20 2010,12:58) Hi RM,
Your threads?
This is a public site.
Please stay on subject
You're highly irritating.
It's like talking to a 6 month old child.
You spew nonsense, continously.June 20, 2010 at 4:09 pm#198738RokkaManParticipantIs there anyone that finds this helpful?
If it does, say so.
If you're against it, say so.It is important that these things are revealed because everyone needs to come into the full understanding of Christ.
June 20, 2010 at 6:44 pm#198764Ed JParticipantQuote (RokkaMan @ June 21 2010,03:09) Is there anyone that finds this helpful?
If it does, say so.
If you're against it, say so.It is important that these things are revealed because everyone needs to come into the full understanding of Christ.
Hi RokkaMan,Perhaps you will find these videos helpful.
Enjoy.
June 20, 2010 at 9:02 pm#198793RokkaManParticipantThe glory of God.
I thought God would not share his glory with another?
If Jesus is another, then it doesn't work.
If Jesus is the same, then it does.
Or else God lied in the OT according to you.To what prophet was called The Glory of God?
Jesus does not = YHVH, I repeat…Jesus is Not YHVH.
Jesus is YHVH's SON. Call him YHVH jr. if you like.If God begets, his offspring so too is God.
We see that because Jesus is HEIR to everything.
He is king of kings, lord of lords….A TITLE ONLY ATTRIBUTED TO GOD.He shares his GLORY with YHVH.
Scripture explicetly states God manifested as flesh in Christ Jesus.———
The best human analogy to understand this phenonmenon is to draw a cup of water from the Ocean.In the cup is Ocean Water. The Ocean water is just as much OCEAN as the OCEAN ITSELF. Yet the cup of OCEAN WATER IS NOT THE OCEAN ITSELF.
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Jesus is just as much God as YHVH is, yet he is not YHVH HIMSELF.
can this be elaborated and broken down any further?
You're not arguing with me, you're arguing with scripture…I'm just the advocate.
June 20, 2010 at 9:10 pm#198795RokkaManParticipantSorry ED J, I don't know your position if you believe Jesus is God in flesh or not…so my previous post is directed to people who still don't believe,
But your videos illustrate Jesus is in fact God.
So it wasn't a shout to you, it was a shout to those who still will not believe.
How can you come into the full understanding of God's sacrifice if you don't see that Jesus was God himself.
It means nothing if a man died for us, but if GOD as a Man, died for us…then to know he loves you so should shake the very foundation of your being!
Praise be to GOD!
June 20, 2010 at 9:23 pm#198798NickHassanParticipantHi RM,
Yes the Spirit of Christ is of God.June 20, 2010 at 9:25 pm#198801RokkaManParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 21 2010,08:23) Hi RM,
Yes the Spirit of Christ is of God.
The spirit of christ is God.June 27, 2010 at 10:46 pm#200372RokkaManParticipantI'm going to bump this, because it frustrates me that fantastic points are made.
Yet people like Nick Hassan, don't address them, ignore them…then go onto other posts arguing and debating to prove THEIR points as oppose to God's truths.
June 27, 2010 at 10:55 pm#200382NickHassanParticipantHi RM,
Yes the Spirit is of God.
God in us is the Spirit of Christ [Eph3.19]June 27, 2010 at 11:02 pm#200390RokkaManParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,09:55) Hi RM,
Yes the Spirit is of God.
God in us is the Spirit of Christ [Eph3.19]
Sorry, scripture disagrees with you.It doesn't say The Spirit is of God.
It says The Spirit IS God.
June 27, 2010 at 11:28 pm#200406942767ParticipantHi RM:
God will not share his glory with another, and that means that he alone is God. There is NO God but but HIM.
Jesus said this when he completed his mission on earth:
Quote John 17:1
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:Ultimately, he was glorifying God through obedience to God's Word, and we also are glorifying God through our obedience to the Lord.
I hope that this gets your back on track.
Love in Christ,
MartyJune 27, 2010 at 11:36 pm#200408RokkaManParticipantQuote (942767 @ June 28 2010,10:28) Hi RM: God will not share his glory with another, and that means that he alone is God. There is NO God but but HIM.
Jesus said this when he completed his mission on earth:
Quote John 17:1
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:Ultimately, he was glorifying God through obedience to God's Word, and we also are glorifying God through our obedience to the Lord.
I hope that this gets your back on track.
Love in Christ,
Marty
I'm already on track, it's you who is hanging by the waste side.——
God said he will not share his glory with another.
Yet, in the OT…The Angel of The Lord was beheld as YHVH?Reconcile that, with your incomplete comprehension.
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If you guys want to talk big and bad like you have wisdom, answer these questions.
June 27, 2010 at 11:44 pm#200410RokkaManParticipantYea your going to stay quiet, cause you don't know.
——–There is only One God and there has always been one God.
yet he manifests in many different ways at many different times.
When Jesus died, he was ressurected…
And appeared as a man, but not the same man they knew before his death.
John 21:4But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the shore: but the disciples knew not that it was Jesus.
5Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.
—–This is an example of the same being, manifesting in a different form.
In the same way does God, YHVH himself manifest in different forms.
Jesus being the manifestation of a Son unto himself.
This is why God can share glory with his son, yet it not be sharing glory with another because they are one in the same.
June 27, 2010 at 11:47 pm#200411RokkaManParticipantThe whole purpose of a manifestation pointing you to the source, is so you know where the manifestation comes from.
If a demon said it was God and told you to worship satan…you would know where that demon came from.
In the same light, if a manifestation of YHVH points you to YHVH The Father, you know where it came from.
Jesus a manifestation always pointed to YHVH, this is how we could even know he was really the messiah.
June 28, 2010 at 12:13 am#200412942767ParticipantQuote (RokkaMan @ June 28 2010,10:44) Yea your going to stay quiet, cause you don't know.
——–There is only One God and there has always been one God.
yet he manifests in many different ways at many different times.
When Jesus died, he was ressurected…
And appeared as a man, but not the same man they knew before his death.
John 21:4But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the shore: but the disciples knew not that it was Jesus.
5Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.
—–This is an example of the same being, manifesting in a different form.
In the same way does God, YHVH himself manifest in different forms.
Jesus being the manifestation of a Son unto himself.
This is why God can share glory with his son, yet it not be sharing glory with another because they are one in the same.
Hi RM:And so your observations do not change the fact that there is ONE GOD.
Quote 5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Quote John 17 1These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Love in Christ,
MartyJune 28, 2010 at 4:00 am#200493RokkaManParticipantQuote (942767 @ June 28 2010,11:13) Quote (RokkaMan @ June 28 2010,10:44) Yea your going to stay quiet, cause you don't know.
——–There is only One God and there has always been one God.
yet he manifests in many different ways at many different times.
When Jesus died, he was ressurected…
And appeared as a man, but not the same man they knew before his death.
John 21:4But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the shore: but the disciples knew not that it was Jesus.
5Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.
—–This is an example of the same being, manifesting in a different form.
In the same way does God, YHVH himself manifest in different forms.
Jesus being the manifestation of a Son unto himself.
This is why God can share glory with his son, yet it not be sharing glory with another because they are one in the same.
Hi RM:And so your observations do not change the fact that there is ONE GOD.
Quote 5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Quote John 17 1These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Love in Christ,
Marty
I've always said there is One God, with many manifestations…Jesus being one of them.Every manifestation of God in the OT was recognized as YHVH himself…but people like you and Nick Hassan like to take that away from Jesus.
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