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- June 9, 2012 at 5:56 am#301704
NickHassan
ParticipantHi WU and De,
The promise was to us too.
Acts 2.39Just because it is not seen could mean there is no faith on earth.
June 9, 2012 at 7:45 am#301705terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2012,23:56) Hi WU and De,
The promise was to us too.
Acts 2.39Just because it is not seen could mean there is no faith on earth.
The apostles are the glory of Christ all others are the glory of the apostles,into the fulfillment of the plan of God,Many ,to many addressed the words of Christ like that it is. Been said to them,this his assuming things,but we're are the deeds
Scriptures say there are no lies found in them,this is part of the deeds of any true believer in Christ or God
June 9, 2012 at 10:24 am#301709Wakeup
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2012,16:56) Hi WU and De,
The promise was to us too.
Acts 2.39Just because it is not seen could mean there is no faith on earth.
Nick.That is not what I am saying; That particular conversation was Jesus promising the apostles,and he kept his promise by sending them the comforter at pantecost.
And whatever YE SHALL ASK. not whatever they shall ask.
wakeup.
June 9, 2012 at 10:25 am#301710NickHassan
ParticipantHi t,
Some in the body of Christ are apostles.[1cor 12]
Only men say the gifts ceased.June 11, 2012 at 4:19 am#301991Marlin1
ParticipantHi,
The simple answer is this,
The lamps represents all the ones that by faith gave their hearts to the Lord.
The Oil represents the ones that Jesus accepted their faith and gave them the Holy Ghost.The ones without the Oil didn't stay at the alter for one reason or another and never received the Holy Ghost.
Jesus said, “that He would be with us and even in us”
With us when we give our hearts to Him and in us when He accepts our faith.Many are called (with us)
Few are chosen (In us)God Bless
MarlinJune 11, 2012 at 4:23 am#301992NickHassan
ParticipantHi M,
So what Peter said at Pentecost is not true now?
Giving hearts to the Lord is the new way?
New gospels are anathema[gal]June 11, 2012 at 4:32 am#301993NickHassan
ParticipantHi M,
Certainly the oil is anointing.
Half who were anointed did not add to the earnest given.June 12, 2012 at 4:12 am#302112Marlin1
ParticipantHi Nick,
Peter said to Repent and be Baptized in the Name Of Jesus Christ and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, right?
And what is repentance, A CHANGE of HEART. Many change their minds, but few change their hearts.
Until the change of heart, a person could be baptized many times and not receive the Holy Ghost.EZEKIEL 11:19 † And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:
ROMANS 10:9 † That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 † For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
The 2nd point is this, After the change of heart and only after the change of heart can a person receive the Holy Ghost. And then only when God accepts that persons faith. That person will have a true revelation of the Godhead.God is not any ones puppet. Abraham had to wait 25 years for the promise and for some reason we think that we don't have to wait at all. God heals in His own time, He saves in His own time, God does ever thing in His own time.
God Bless
MarlinJune 12, 2012 at 4:22 am#302114NickHassan
ParticipantHi M,
Your justifications do not change the law of Jesus Christ.
Romans was not written to the unsaved to show them a new way of salvation but to the saved.Rom1
June 12, 2012 at 4:29 am#302115Marlin1
ParticipantQuote Certainly the oil is anointing.
Half who were anointed did not add to the earnest given.The Disciples of Jesus Christ were sent out anointed, but they at that time were not born again of the Spirit of God. That is the same as this day, many are anointed, but only few are truly born again of the Spirit of God.
God Bless
MarlinJune 12, 2012 at 4:37 am#302116NickHassan
ParticipantHi M,
And fewer become sons of God.
jn 1.12June 16, 2012 at 11:51 pm#302705Marlin1
ParticipantHi Nick,
Very True,
Jn 1:13, Must be born again from above.June 17, 2012 at 2:41 am#302741terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Marlin1 @ June 17 2012,17:51) Hi Nick, Very True,
Jn 1:13, Must be born again from above.
M1so not according to men ??right
June 17, 2012 at 9:52 pm#302865Marlin1
ParticipantHi T,
Correct, not of man.
The Spirit of God must come into the person and dwell there. It is not about how we believe the Word, it is about God living in us and guiding us. That is what being born again means.
Look at Paul, he didn't have writings of the new testament, yet he taught the new testament. It is not so much about the words in a book, it is about the Spirit in a man. For it was the Spirit in Paul that taught him.
Was the mighty works of the Spirit in the Apostles for today?
God Bless
MarlinJune 19, 2012 at 10:15 pm#303177NickHassan
ParticipantHi M,
Good stuff.
yesActs 2.39
June 20, 2012 at 1:36 am#303231Marlin1
ParticipantHi Nick,
I also agree it is for today, there are some that believe that the mighty works of the Apostles was only for those 12. Yet scripture says otherwise.
Marlin
June 22, 2012 at 2:09 pm#303633terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Marlin1 @ June 18 2012,15:52) Hi T, Correct, not of man.
The Spirit of God must come into the person and dwell there. It is not about how we believe the Word, it is about God living in us and guiding us. That is what being born again means.
Look at Paul, he didn't have writings of the new testament, yet he taught the new testament. It is not so much about the words in a book, it is about the Spirit in a man. For it was the Spirit in Paul that taught him.
Was the mighty works of the Spirit in the Apostles for today?
God Bless
Marlin
M1The spirit in Paul was to serve his God ,he was a Jew ,but his zeal was used by religion interpretation,but his heart was straith,
This was good material according to Christ ,for using him for the Lord works,
I am not aware of any other saint apostles than the 11 and Paul ,
May be you can refreche my memory
June 22, 2012 at 6:50 pm#303640NickHassan
ParticipantHi,
Yes some are still sent to preach and such are apostles.
But far more go and preach in their own name or the name of a denomination.June 22, 2012 at 7:28 pm#303646terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2012,12:50) Hi,
Yes some are still sent to preach and such are apostles.
But far more go and preach in their own name or the name of a denomination.
NLike whom you got in mind
June 22, 2012 at 8:43 pm#303655NickHassan
ParticipantHi t,
Tune into any TV evangelist and see how many of these men, made wealthy by the desperate, teach what is true. - AuthorPosts
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