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- April 4, 2008 at 6:20 pm#86005dooglesParticipant
Have you read it ?Should we read it?
April 4, 2008 at 9:07 pm#86011seekingtruthParticipantWelcome Doogles,
I have read it and I believe that it is good to further clarify scripture.Wm
April 4, 2008 at 9:08 pm#86012NickHassanParticipantWelcome doogles,
No harm. It is quoted in Jude.
So perhaps it should be in the canon and I think it was at some stage.It is accessible on this site via the writings section on the front page.
April 4, 2008 at 10:33 pm#86019seek and you will findParticipantHello! Welcome, here is an article that my Husband wrote about Enoch.
Did Enoch die?
Gen. 5:24 “ And Enoch walked with God; and he was not; for God took him “.
What does “ he was not “ mean? That he just disappeared? And “ God took him “, does that mean Enoch went straight to heaven and didn’t have to die? Paul seems to agree with that thought, because he writes in;
Heb. 11:5 “ By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him; for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God “.
Enoch is only one, of a long list of faithful men and woman that Paul talks about in Hebrews chapter 11; but then he says something that seems to contradict what he just said in verse 5;
Heb. 11:13 “ These all died in faith, not having received the promise…”
Is Paul contradicting himself? Did he make a mistake? Neither!! Paul knew exactly what he was saying; he is the one that tells us in;
1 Cor. 15:50 “ Now this I say brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither doth corruption inherit incorruption”.
He also says this;
Heb. 9:27 “ And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment”.
And this;
1 Cor. 15:22 “ For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive”.
He also knew what Jesus had said;
John 3:13 “ And no man has ascended up to heaven…”
Does anyone doubt the word of Christ? When we read the account of Enoch we tend to forget what Paul says in;
Rom. 3:23 “ For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God”.
We are all sinners, and we all need a savior; when God took or translated Enoch, Jesus was a long way off. Paul tells us only after Christ’s death could we receive forgiveness for our sins;
Col. 2:13 “ And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses”.
Paul is saying; all these holy men and woman have died, but they are not forgotten;
Heb. 11:40 “ God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect”.
Could it be that God made an exception to the rule? NO ! There are no exceptions, there is only God’s rule, because;
Acts 10:34 “ God is no respecter of person”.
Heb. 13:8 “Jesus Christ the same jesterday, and today, and for ever.”
What then does “translated“ mean? One definition is: “To change from one place, position, etc, to another”. To me this means; from a position in life, to no position in death; from a place on the earth, to a place in the earth, grave. “Should not see death“ How many times do we say, “oh I see“, but we don’t mean seeing with our eyes. It could also mean; “should not experience death”. When we’re young we don’t think much about dying, we’re to busy thinking about living; when we get into our senior years, that all changes. We feel ourselves getting weaker and slower, we get more easily tired, we may even get sick and dependent, starting to feel lonely; your friends, if they are still alive, are just as old as you are and you may wonder; why am I still alive? To many sick people death can be quite an experience; and how often then do we hear people say; “Please God, just take me“. We may never know the reason why God took Enoch, but we do know why God took another man when his job was done, Moses. God told Moses to come up unto the mountain;
Deut. 34:1 “And Moses went up from the plains of Moab, unto the mountain of Nebo, to the top of Pisgah, that is over against Jericho. And the LORD showed him all the land of Gil’ead, unto Dan.”
v. 5 “So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to
the word of the LORD.”
v. 6 “And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Beth-peor: but
no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.”
Whenever we come across a scripture that seems to contradict another, we have to always take a closer look to see what it is really saying.Peace and Love Mrs.
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