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Yes but don't you believe that Yahweh came in the flesh?
That verse states that the Messiah came in the flesh.
Big difference.
Quote Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come, even now are there many ANTICHRISTS; whereby we know that it is the last time. (1 John 2:18) (One Opposed to Christ.) We know of the many “antichrist(s)” who are forerunners of the “Antichrists” himself, 1Jo 2:18, 22; 2Jo 1:7
We know antichrist(s) refers to false teachers, he says (1Jo 2:18,22; 4:3; 2Jo 1:7), “Even now are there many antichrists.”
We know it has been applied also to the “false Christs” spoken of by our Lord (Mat 24:5,23,24).
We know he is referred to the “man of sin” described by Paul (2Th 2:3,4,8-10).
We know the evil power which already operates anticipatively of the “Antichrist(s),” denying the Messiah's very existance. 1Jo 4:3, 2John 1:7
We know the antichrist(s) deny the Father and the son. 1John 2:22
In the historical books of the Old Testament we find “Belial” used as if a personal opponent of Yahweh; thus the scandalously wicked are called in the King James Version “sons of Belial” (Jud 19:22; 20:13), “daughter of Belial” (1Sa 1:16), etc.
In Da 7:7,8 there is the description of a great heathen empire, represented by a beast with ten horns: its full antagonism to God is expressed in a little eleventh horn which had “a mouth speaking great things” and “made war with the saints” (Da 7:8,21).
Him the ‘Ancient of Days’ was to destroy, and his kingdom was to be given to a ‘Son of Man’ (Da 7:9-14).
We know he is the “beast from the sea” (Rev 13:1; 17:1-18).
In the Gospels the activity of Satan is regarded as specially directed against Christ. In the Temptation (Mt 4:1-10; Lu 4:1-13) the Devil claims the right to dispose of “all the kingdoms of the world,” and has his claim admitted. The temptation is a struggle between the Christ and the Antichrist. In the parable of the Tares and the Wheat, while He that sowed the good seed is the Son of Man, he that sowed the tares is the Devil, who is thus Antichrist (Mt 13:37-39). our Lord felt it the keenest of insults that His miracles should be attributed to Satanic assistance (Mt 12:24-32). In Joh 14:30 there is reference to the “Prince of the World” who “hath nothing” in Christ.
The apostle now feels the whole imperial system to be an incarnation of the spirit of Satan; indeed from the identity of the symbols, seven heads and ten horns, applied both to the dragon (Re 12:3) and to the Beast (Re 13:1), he appears to have regarded the raison d‘etre of the Roman Empire to be found in its incarnation of Satan. The ten horns are borrowed from Da 7, but the seven heads point, as seen from Re 17:9, to the “seven hills” on which Rome sat. There is, however, not only the Beast, but also the “image of the beast” to be considered (Re 13:14,15).
From the fact that the seer endows the Beast that comes out of the earth with “two horns like unto a lamb” (Re 13:11), the apostle must have had in his mind some system of teaching that resembled Christianity; its relationship to Satan is shown by its speaking “as a dragon” (Re 13:11).
hi to all
the antichrist ad knowledge of God kingdom and Christ his son,the scriptures said “the came out from among us” that wath made them antichrist,to me anyway,Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 17 2009,02:22) ANYONE THAT DOES NOT ACCEPT THAT CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS ANTI-CHRIST! God Bless, TK
TKHave you ever attended a prodestand church? why do they call them “prodestand” churches in the first place?
They all teach that Jesus came in the flesh, and yet, they are all antichrists churches, why? because they don't teach according to the bible.Georg
hi georg
this is a french word “protestant” i do belive it started with the'
” Huguenot” in France who wanted to change certain things in the catholic church,it as been to long for me sins I study this.
but i am sure you can find answers on the internet just look for the name.
I hope you find wath you looking for.terraricca
The protestant churches started with the German monk Matin Luther in 1517, when he in protest to the Catholic church, nailed his 95 dissagreements on the church door in Wittenberg. After that many ministers started their own churches to get away from under the dogma of the Catholic church, or better, the pope. To the Catholic church they were, and still are, protestent churches.
Georg
Ps. don't let my new name “banana” throw you.
hi georg
i knew that to I am a europeen this was part of our studys ,
see i miss read your quote ,i was thinking you ask were the name came from,this is my mistake,is the word “protestant”the same in german?
luther,calvin,Joseph menon,and a few others ,but i have passed the time to give my time to that type of historyQuote (georg @ Nov. 20 2009,22:24) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 17 2009,02:22) ANYONE THAT DOES NOT ACCEPT THAT CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS ANTI-CHRIST! God Bless, TK
TKHave you ever attended a prodestand church? why do they call them “prodestand” churches in the first place?
They all teach that Jesus came in the flesh, and yet, they are all antichrists churches, why? because they don't teach according to the bible.Georg
George: Do you believe that Christ is in you?
If Christ is in you then you have no sin because Christ does not dwell in sin!
If you agree with that I agree with you. If you say you still have sin then you would not have Christ in you and that would be anti-Christ.
Anyone that does not accept the purification of Jesus and the cleansing of sin which allows the Christ to dwell within, would be anti-Christ.
I do not judge others, the words of Jesus judge right now and at all times.
Everyday is judgement day and those that believe they have been made clean through Jesus are clean. Bless you, TKQuote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 24 2009,03:28) Quote (georg @ Nov. 20 2009,22:24) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 17 2009,02:22) ANYONE THAT DOES NOT ACCEPT THAT CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS ANTI-CHRIST! God Bless, TK
TKHave you ever attended a prodestand church? why do they call them “prodestand” churches in the first place?
They all teach that Jesus came in the flesh, and yet, they are all antichrists churches, why? because they don't teach according to the bible.Georg
George: Do you believe that Christ is in you?
If Christ is in you then you have no sin because Christ does not dwell in sin!
If you agree with that I agree with you. If you say you still have sin then you would not have Christ in you and that would be anti-Christ.
Anyone that does not accept the purification of Jesus and the cleansing of sin which allows the Christ to dwell within, would be anti-Christ.
I do not judge others, the words of Jesus judge right now and at all times.
Everyday is judgement day and those that believe they have been made clean through Jesus are clean. Bless you, TK
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1John 1:8If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1John 1:10
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1John 2:4
Walk in truth and it is simple to go to him when you err.
I am glad you are spotless Tim Kraft, atleast I have someone to go to if I miss the mark during my journey. You being perfect have no need of him.
God states that mankind is living in the ‘last time', the last era, the last dispensation, the last period of Earth's history. Who or what is the Antichrist? It's in the Bible, 1 John 2:18, NIV.
“Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.”
The original Greek word for ‘Antichrist' can have two meanings. It can mean ‘against Christ', in the sense of someone or some power who opposes the work of Christ. Or alternatively, the word can mean ‘instead of Christ', signifying a person or power who ‘takes the place of Christ', or is a ‘counterfeit of Christ'. God says that in addition to the coming of a special Antichrist, there were many other antichrists already in existence during the era of the early church. It's in the Bible, 1 John 2:19-26, NIV.
“They (the antichrists) went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us…I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.”
According to God's Word, antichrists were counterfeit Christians who had split away from the body of true believers. They were liars who denied the Messiahship of Jesus. It's in the Bible, 1 John 2:22, NKJV.
“Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.” 2 John 1:7, NKJV says,
“For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.”
Antichrists are not atheists. They are not pagans waging a war against Jesus. They are individuals who are preaching a gospel, but it is not the true gospel. It is a ‘different gospel'. It’s in the Bible, 2 Corinthians 11:4, 13-15, NIV.
“For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough…For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. Is it not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness.”
Jesus cautioned the Church about the deceptive work of these counterfeit prophets. It's in the Bible, Matthew 7:15, 21-23, NAS.
“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name cast out demons, and in your name perform many miracles?' And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you who practice lawlessness.'”
Jesus further warned that during the period leading up to His Second Coming at the end of the Church age, antichrists would verily try to impersonate him, claiming to be the returned Messiah. It's in the Bible, Matthew 24:4, 5, 24-26, NIV.
“Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!' or, ‘There he is!' do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time. So, if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,' do not go out; or ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.”
Just before the day of the Second Coming of Jesus, there will be a manifestation of the great and final Antichrist, the Antichrist who ‘is to come'. It’s in the Bible, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, NIV.
“Don't let any one deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.”
What will happen to this Antichrist, and how will we recognize him? It's in the Bible, 2 Thessalonians 2:8-10, NIV.
“And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus Christ will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of His coming. The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refuse to love the truth and so be saved.”
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 24 2009,22:44) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 24 2009,03:28) Quote (georg @ Nov. 20 2009,22:24) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 17 2009,02:22) ANYONE THAT DOES NOT ACCEPT THAT CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS ANTI-CHRIST! God Bless, TK
TKHave you ever attended a prodestand church? why do they call them “prodestand” churches in the first place?
They all teach that Jesus came in the flesh, and yet, they are all antichrists churches, why? because they don't teach according to the bible.Georg
George: Do you believe that Christ is in you?
If Christ is in you then you have no sin because Christ does not dwell in sin!
If you agree with that I agree with you. If you say you still have sin then you would not have Christ in you and that would be anti-Christ.
Anyone that does not accept the purification of Jesus and the cleansing of sin which allows the Christ to dwell within, would be anti-Christ.
I do not judge others, the words of Jesus judge right now and at all times.
Everyday is judgement day and those that believe they have been made clean through Jesus are clean. Bless you, TK
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1John 1:8If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1John 1:10
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1John 2:4
Walk in truth and it is simple to go to him when you err.
I am glad you are spotless Tim Kraft, atleast I have someone to go to if I miss the mark during my journey. You being perfect have no need of him.
Hey Con: If I say I am clean, sinless and ordained by God it mean NOTHING!! If Jesus says I am then thank God!
If Jesus says,”we are clean by the words he spoke to us,(John 15:2) and we don't “keep his words as truth” then we are liars and the truth of cleanliness is not in us.
If we receive our cleansing through the words of Jesus and then say we have sin we would make him out to be a liar!
Jesus said he is faithful and just to forgive us our sin. If that is true then we have no sin. Knowing what he said, if you say you have sin you are saying Jesus lied.
It is true, we were in sin. But now, through Jesus we have been made the righteousness of God, if we believe. It amazes me how many reject their sinlessness through Jesus. Its your choice. Bless you, TKQuote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 24 2009,22:28) Quote (georg @ Nov. 20 2009,22:24) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 17 2009,02:22) ANYONE THAT DOES NOT ACCEPT THAT CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS ANTI-CHRIST! God Bless, TK
TKHave you ever attended a prodestand church? why do they call them “prodestand” churches in the first place?
They all teach that Jesus came in the flesh, and yet, they are all antichrists churches, why? because they don't teach according to the bible.Georg
George: Do you believe that Christ is in you?
If Christ is in you then you have no sin because Christ does not dwell in sin!
If you agree with that I agree with you. If you say you still have sin then you would not have Christ in you and that would be anti-Christ.
Anyone that does not accept the purification of Jesus and the cleansing of sin which allows the Christ to dwell within, would be anti-Christ.
I do not judge others, the words of Jesus judge right now and at all times.
Everyday is judgement day and those that believe they have been made clean through Jesus are clean. Bless you, TK
TKBecause of my faith in Jesus, sin does not remain in me, that however does not mean I don't sin.
“Happy the man to whom the LORD imputes no sin” Ps. 32:2.
Again, our faith in Jesus cleanses us immediately of our sin, but if we say we sin not, the truth is not in us.Const. already gave you the scriptures.
Georg
TK
You keep saying, having no sin, and forgiven of your sins; if you don't sin, what are you forgiven for?
Or is Const. right in assuming you are spotless? when was it since you had “all” of your sins forgiven, and since then you have not sinned?Georg
Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 24 2009,05:20) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 24 2009,22:44) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 24 2009,03:28) Quote (georg @ Nov. 20 2009,22:24) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 17 2009,02:22) ANYONE THAT DOES NOT ACCEPT THAT CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS ANTI-CHRIST! God Bless, TK
TKHave you ever attended a prodestand church? why do they call them “prodestand” churches in the first place?
They all teach that Jesus came in the flesh, and yet, they are all antichrists churches, why? because they don't teach according to the bible.Georg
George: Do you believe that Christ is in you?
If Christ is in you then you have no sin because Christ does not dwell in sin!
If you agree with that I agree with you. If you say you still have sin then you would not have Christ in you and that would be anti-Christ.
Anyone that does not accept the purification of Jesus and the cleansing of sin which allows the Christ to dwell within, would be anti-Christ.
I do not judge others, the words of Jesus judge right now and at all times.
Everyday is judgement day and those that believe they have been made clean through Jesus are clean. Bless you, TK
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1John 1:8If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1John 1:10
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1John 2:4
Walk in truth and it is simple to go to him when you err.
I am glad you are spotless Tim Kraft, atleast I have someone to go to if I miss the mark during my journey. You being perfect have no need of him.
Hey Con: If I say I am clean, sinless and ordained by God it mean NOTHING!! If Jesus says I am then thank God!
If Jesus says,”we are clean by the words he spoke to us,(John 15:2) and we don't “keep his words as truth” then we are liars and the truth of cleanliness is not in us.
If we receive our cleansing through the words of Jesus and then say we have sin we would make him out to be a liar!
Jesus said he is faithful and just to forgive us our sin. If that is true then we have no sin. Knowing what he said, if you say you have sin you are saying Jesus lied.
It is true, we were in sin. But now, through Jesus we have been made the righteousness of God, if we believe. It amazes me how many reject their sinlessness through Jesus. Its your choice. Bless you, TK
Seems this is in contradiction:If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1John 1:8
If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1John 1:10
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 25 2009,15:26) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 24 2009,05:20) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 24 2009,22:44) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 24 2009,03:28) Quote (georg @ Nov. 20 2009,22:24) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 17 2009,02:22) ANYONE THAT DOES NOT ACCEPT THAT CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS ANTI-CHRIST! God Bless, TK
TKHave you ever attended a prodestand church? why do they call them “prodestand” churches in the first place?
They all teach that Jesus came in the flesh, and yet, they are all antichrists churches, why? because they don't teach according to the bible.Georg
George: Do you believe that Christ is in you?
If Christ is in you then you have no sin because Christ does not dwell in sin!
If you agree with that I agree with you. If you say you still have sin then you would not have Christ in you and that would be anti-Christ.
Anyone that does not accept the purification of Jesus and the cleansing of sin which allows the Christ to dwell within, would be anti-Christ.
I do not judge others, the words of Jesus judge right now and at all times.
Everyday is judgement day and those that believe they have been made clean through Jesus are clean. Bless you, TK
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1John 1:8If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1John 1:10
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1John 2:4
Walk in truth and it is simple to go to him when you err.
I am glad you are spotless Tim Kraft, atleast I have someone to go to if I miss the mark during my journey. You being perfect have no need of him.
Hey Con: If I say I am clean, sinless and ordained by God it mean NOTHING!! If Jesus says I am then thank God!
If Jesus says,”we are clean by the words he spoke to us,(John 15:2) and we don't “keep his words as truth” then we are liars and the truth of cleanliness is not in us.
If we receive our cleansing through the words of Jesus and then say we have sin we would make him out to be a liar!
Jesus said he is faithful and just to forgive us our sin. If that is true then we have no sin. Knowing what he said, if you say you have sin you are saying Jesus lied.
It is true, we were in sin. But now, through Jesus we have been made the righteousness of God, if we believe. It amazes me how many reject their sinlessness through Jesus. Its your choice. Bless you, TK
Seems this is in contradiction:If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1John 1:8
If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1John 1:10
Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
1 John 3:8-10Quote (banana @ Nov. 25 2009,01:45) TK You keep saying, having no sin, and forgiven of your sins; if you don't sin, what are you forgiven for?
Or is Const. right in assuming you are spotless? when was it since you had “all” of your sins forgiven, and since then you have not sinned?Georg
Georg: If you would pay attention to what I said it was,” I am what God/Jesus say I am” and so are you. If Jesus says you are clean by the words that he speaks to us it is your choice to believe that you are clean or believe you have sin.
This is our choice, life or death, you choose.
I don't think Jesus ever said to ask forgiveness for your sins. If he did please show me.
He did say what is the difference between saying your sin is forgiven or rise and be healed.
You say that you sin(and that I sin). Would you be so kind as to tell me what it is that you and I do that you consider sin!
Bless you, TK
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