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Quote (journey42 @ July 02 2013,17:43) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,16:03) Hi Wakeup, You cannot get “A Prophets Reward” until you understand:
“Knowing this FIRST, that no prophecy of the scripture
is of any private interpretation.” (2 Peter 1:20)
That is what you need to know **FIRST**.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
And this is proud talk Ed.
You did not even know what a prophets reward was last year, and kept begging me to tell you.
Now you use this verse against Wakeup?
Strange.
Hi Journey42,Of course “I” know what a prophets reward is – “I” never said I didn't.
And truth can **ONLY** be used against those who resist the truth.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ July 02 2013,17:43) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,16:03) Hi Wakeup, You cannot get “A Prophets Reward” until you understand:
“Knowing this FIRST, that no prophecy of the scripture
is of any private interpretation.” (2 Peter 1:20)
That is what you need to know **FIRST**.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgNow you use this verse against Wakeup?
Are you suggesting that Wakeup doesn't need to know that FIRST?Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,18:54) Quote (journey42 @ July 02 2013,17:43) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,16:03) Hi Wakeup, You cannot get “A Prophets Reward” until you understand:
“Knowing this FIRST, that no prophecy of the scripture
is of any private interpretation.” (2 Peter 1:20)
That is what you need to know **FIRST**.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgNow you use this verse against Wakeup?
Are you suggesting that Wakeup doesn't need to know that FIRST?
EDJ.No prophecy of scripture is of private interpretation.
I agree whith that;so dont do it.wakeup.
Ed wrote:[/quote]
Quote THE FACT THAT YOU AGREE WITH WAKEUP'S 'private interpretation of Prophecy' ACTUALLY MEANS NOTHING! Matthew 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
2 Corinthians 13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
1 Timothy 5:19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.
Ed wrote:[/quote]
Quote Hi Journey42, Of course “I” know what a prophets reward is – “I” never said I didn't.
And truth can **ONLY** be used against those who resist the truth.
Truth cannot **ONLY** be used against those who resist the truth, but can be used also for those who love the truth.Truth is not for our damnation, but for our protection.
Ed wrote:[/quote]
Quote You cannot get “A Prophets Reward” until you understand:
“Knowing this FIRST, that no prophecy of the scripture
is of any private interpretation.” (2 Peter 1:20)
That is what you need to know **FIRST**.Ed,
Wakeup knows that. He also knows that Christ did not come at Pentecost, and that there is a 2nd coming to come.
This is basic knowledge. They even teach this in the churches that Christ is returning, so be ready when he comes.
That is the main message, Christ is returning,
our Lord comes again,We wait for our Lord,
and you say that he is here already.
We wait for a new kingdom,
you say it is here.
We wait for justice, and and a just leader,
but at the moment we have all the corruption going on,
and our leaders get away with it.
You say it's all Muslems that are against Christ,
We say, it's the West. They are the worst enemies of Christ.
The West hold all the power and the money. The West cause all the wars through their dark schemes.
They play the world like a game of chess.
The West are the most wicked.
The West do the soft kill thing.
The West have conditioned us to do what whatever we want,
that there is no sin, no God, no repercussions, anything goes
only do not cheat or go against your leaders or they will make you pay for the rest of your life.
Fear them, is what they taught us,
fear the laws of the land, or else,
but do whatever else you please, whatever you desireOur Worst enemies are our own leaders,
they are the ones that will kill christians in mass numbers,
not the muslems.
Do some research.Quote (journey42 @ July 03 2013,10:36) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,18:30) Quote THE FACT THAT YOU AGREE WITH WAKEUP'S 'private interpretation of Prophecy' ACTUALLY MEANS NOTHING! Matthew 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
2 Corinthians 13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
1 Timothy 5:19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.
Hi Journey42,So if “three” JW's came to your house – all telling you the same thing –
they would be establishing their doctrine TO YOU then right? You don't even
BELIEVE YOUR OWN PREMISE! Do you want me to tell you what this REALLY means?“At the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ July 03 2013,12:44) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,18:46) Quote Hi Journey42, Of course “I” know what a prophets reward is – “I” never said I didn't.
And truth can **ONLY** be used against those who resist the truth.
Truth cannot **ONLY** be used against those who resist the truth, but can be used also for those who love the truth.Truth is not for our damnation, but for our protection.
Hi Journey42,Did you somehow miss the word “AGAINST” in my post?
How can the truth be used *against* someone who believes the truth? (<– please answer)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ July 03 2013,13:01) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,18:54) Quote You cannot get “A Prophets Reward” until you understand:
“Knowing this FIRST, that no prophecy of the scripture
is of any private interpretation.” (2 Peter 1:20)
That is what you need to know **FIRST**.Ed,
Wakeup knows that. He also knows that Christ did not come at Pentecost, and that there is a 2nd coming to come.
This is basic knowledge. They even teach this in the churches that Christ is returning, so be ready when he comes.
That is the main message, Christ is returning,
our Lord comes again,We wait for our Lord,
and you say that he is here already.
We wait for a new kingdom,
you say it is here.
We wait for justice, and and a just leader,
but at the moment we have all the corruption going on,
and our leaders get away with it.
You say it's all Muslems that are against Christ,
We say, it's the West. They are the worst enemies of Christ.
The West hold all the power and the money. The West cause all the wars through their dark schemes.
They play the world like a game of chess.
The West are the most wicked.
The West do the soft kill thing.
The West have conditioned us to do what whatever we want,
that there is no sin, no God, no repercussions, anything goes
only do not cheat or go against your leaders or they will make you pay for the rest of your life.
Fear them, is what they taught us,
fear the laws of the land, or else,
but do whatever else you please, whatever you desireOur Worst enemies are our own leaders,
they are the ones that will kill christians in mass numbers,
not the muslems.
Do some research.
Hi Journey42,Islamists DO *behead* Christians
for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God.Their religion tell them to do this and it was Prophesied in the bible
by John on the island of Patmos (ref. Rev 20:4) about 2,000 years ago.NO country in the western world kills Christians for the witness of Jesus, nor even
prevents anyone from preaching the word of God; YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 03 2013,21:39) Quote (journey42 @ July 03 2013,13:01) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,18:54) Quote You cannot get “A Prophets Reward” until you understand:
“Knowing this FIRST, that no prophecy of the scripture
is of any private interpretation.” (2 Peter 1:20)
That is what you need to know **FIRST**.Ed,
Wakeup knows that. He also knows that Christ did not come at Pentecost, and that there is a 2nd coming to come.
This is basic knowledge. They even teach this in the churches that Christ is returning, so be ready when he comes.
That is the main message, Christ is returning,
our Lord comes again,We wait for our Lord,
and you say that he is here already.
We wait for a new kingdom,
you say it is here.
We wait for justice, and and a just leader,
but at the moment we have all the corruption going on,
and our leaders get away with it.
You say it's all Muslems that are against Christ,
We say, it's the West. They are the worst enemies of Christ.
The West hold all the power and the money. The West cause all the wars through their dark schemes.
They play the world like a game of chess.
The West are the most wicked.
The West do the soft kill thing.
The West have conditioned us to do what whatever we want,
that there is no sin, no God, no repercussions, anything goes
only do not cheat or go against your leaders or they will make you pay for the rest of your life.
Fear them, is what they taught us,
fear the laws of the land, or else,
but do whatever else you please, whatever you desireOur Worst enemies are our own leaders,
they are the ones that will kill christians in mass numbers,
not the muslems.
Do some research.
Hi Journey42,Islamists DO *behead* Christians
for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God.Their religion tell them to do this and it was Prophesied in the bible
by John on the island of Patmos (ref. Rev 20:4) about 2,000 years ago.NO country in the western world kills Christians for the witness of Jesus, nor even
prevents anyone from preaching the word of God; YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.You obviously are having your blinkers on
not able to see whats going on in your country.Christians are the enemy,and muslems are good.
Anther mosque will be build next to zero zone.The 10 commandments monument is removed,and another
monument put in place. I think is worship the earth,or nature.wakeup.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 03 2013,22:53) EDJ. You obviously are having your blinkers on
not able to see whats going on in your country.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,You need to stop feeding on strange flesh! You have been watching too many 'conspiracy' videos.
“Say ye not, A conspiracy, to all them to whom this people shall say, A conspiracy;
neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid. Sanctify the LORD of Hosts himself;
and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.” (Isaiah 8:12-13)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 03 2013,21:17) Hi Journey42, So if “three” JW's came to your house – all telling you the same thing –
they would be establishing their doctrine TO YOU then right? You don't even
BELIEVE YOUR OWN PREMISE! Do you want me to tell you what this REALLY means?“At the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,I have had JW's come to my door in the past.
I happen to know what they believe, and I happen to know the scriptures.
So I surprised them and showed them the appropriate verses on how their doctrine contradicted the scriptures,
and they they were stumped.
They came back with their elders, who also could not explain a particular contradiction.
I have been blacklisted. They always pass my house.
Why don't they come back with their answers?
They love their church more than the truth.
I know they could see my point but refused it,
you do the same Ed.
That's different.
Most of us here are not from Religion, but seek on our own.
There's a big difference. Most of us here are not church taught, but seek for ourselves.You have been given scriptures and explanations. It's up to you whether you accept or reject, but you're doctrine doesn't line up. If the scripture says that when Christ returns, every eye shall see him, and you say it's happened already at pentecost, (Only in Jerusalem) then why should I trust you?
He's coming with his heavenly armies, and he's coming to judge the nations, but you say it happened at penetecost. So you don't understand Revelations, nor the prophecies concerning Christ's return, nor the signs leading up to it.Quote (Ed J @ July 03 2013,21:23) Quote (journey42 @ July 03 2013,12:44) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,18:46) Quote Hi Journey42, Of course “I” know what a prophets reward is – “I” never said I didn't.
And truth can **ONLY** be used against those who resist the truth.
Truth cannot **ONLY** be used against those who resist the truth, but can be used also for those who love the truth.Truth is not for our damnation, but for our protection.
Hi Journey42,Did you somehow miss the word “AGAINST” in my post?
How can the truth be used *against* someone who believes the truth? (<– please answer)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,Give me scripture and I'll tell you what it means.
but you have to explain your own jargon.Quote (journey42 @ July 04 2013,01:56) Ed, You have been given scriptures and explanations. It's up to you whether you accept or reject, but you're doctrine doesn't line up.
Hi Journey42,I accept the Scriptures and reject YOUR explanations
…because your doctrine doesn't line up.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ July 04 2013,01:56) Ed, (1)If the scripture says that when Christ returns, every eye shall see him, and you say it's happened already at pentecost, (Only in Jerusalem) then why should I trust you?
(2)He's coming with his heavenly armies, and he's coming to judge the nations, but you say it happened at penetecost. So you don't understand Revelations, nor the prophecies concerning Christ's return, nor the signs leading up to it.
Hi Journey42,1) Every eye shall see him – means everyone will understand that “Jesus is Lord” – to the glory of the father.
2) Spin
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ July 04 2013,01:59) Quote (Ed J @ July 03 2013,21:23) Quote (journey42 @ July 03 2013,12:44) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,18:46) Quote Hi Journey42, Of course “I” know what a prophets reward is – “I” never said I didn't.
And truth can **ONLY** be used against those who resist the truth.
Truth cannot **ONLY** be used against those who resist the truth, but can be used also for those who love the truth.Truth is not for our damnation, but for our protection.
Hi Journey42,Did you somehow miss the word “AGAINST” in my post?
How can the truth be used *against* someone who believes the truth? (<– please answer)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,Give me scripture and I'll tell you what it means.
but you have to explain your own jargon.
Hi Journey42,Journey42 quote: “Truth cannot **ONLY** be used against those who resist the truth,
but can be used also for those who love the truth.”
(unquote)My question is based on YOUR *jargon*. (but you have to explain your own jargon.)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ July 04 2013,01:56) Quote (Ed J @ July 03 2013,21:17) Hi Journey42, So if “three” JW's came to your house – all telling you the same thing –
they would be establishing their doctrine TO YOU then right? You don't even
BELIEVE YOUR OWN PREMISE! Do you want me to tell you what this REALLY means?“At the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,I have had JW's come to my door in the past.
I happen to know what they believe, and I happen to know the scriptures.
Then you don't believe your own premise, do you?Ed,
When the false prophet comes soon, you will not be able to identify him because you will be waiting for some Muslem leader.
Daniel 8:8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken, and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceedingly great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
Could you please explain to me;
1. Who is the he goat?
2. Who are the four notable ones that came up after it?
3. And out of one of them…came forth a little horn. Who is them?
4. Who is the little horn?Quote (journey42 @ July 04 2013,02:15) Ed, When the false prophet comes soon, you will not be able to identify him because you will be waiting for some Muslem leader.
Hi Journey42,(Isa 44:26) “That confirmeth the word of his servant,
and performeth the counsel of his messengers;”
Your words will NOT be confirmed,
because your words are based on
a false understanding of Scripture.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ July 04 2013,02:15) Ed, Daniel 8:8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken, and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceedingly great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
Could you please explain to me;
1. Who is the he goat?
2. Who are the four notable ones that came up after it?
3. And out of one of them…came forth a little horn. Who is them?
4. Who is the little horn?
Hi Journey42,1) Alexander the great
2) The four Generals that ran the Grecian Empire after Alexander's death.
3) Them is “the four Generals” (see question #2)
4) The spirit of Antichrist, which comes out of where Turkey is now.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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