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Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,19:29) Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2013,19:07) What question regarding Matthew 24?
EdJ.Let me refresh your memory.
Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the *abomination of desolation*, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, *stand* in the holy place*, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION *STAND* IN JERUSALEM.
Matthew 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Matthew 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Matthew 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Matthew 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Matthew 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Matthew 24:21 For then shall be **great tribulation*, SUCH AS WAS NOT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD TO THIS TIME, no, NOR EVER SHALL BE.
Matthew 24:22 *And except those days should be shortened*, there should **NO FLESH* BE SAVED**: but for the elect's sake those days *SHALL BE SHORTENED*.
So you were wrong again.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,First, the dome of the rock “is” in Jerusalem.
Second, *great tribulation* is caused by this antichrist spirit
Third, God doesn't recon time as man does.
“one day is with the LORD as a thousand years,
and a thousand years as one day.” (2 Peter 3:8)Any more questions?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Resting @ April 10 2013,17:47) You people can believe as you want. See ya.
Res.
Are you leaving already?I'm still waiting for my answer.
Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2013,17:58) Quote (Resting @ April 10 2013,17:47) You people can believe as you want. See ya.
Res.
Hi Resting, I'm familiar with what those three believe.I have been so far reading what you believe
so don't let them discourage you from
expressing your views to us' OK?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Yes don't let us stop you.Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2013,20:05) Quote (Wakeup @ April 10 2013,19:29) Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2013,19:07) What question regarding Matthew 24?
EdJ.Let me refresh your memory.
Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the *abomination of desolation*, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, *stand* in the holy place*, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION *STAND* IN JERUSALEM.
Matthew 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Matthew 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Matthew 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Matthew 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Matthew 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Matthew 24:21 For then shall be **great tribulation*, SUCH AS WAS NOT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD TO THIS TIME, no, NOR EVER SHALL BE.
Matthew 24:22 *And except those days should be shortened*, there should **NO FLESH* BE SAVED**: but for the elect's sake those days *SHALL BE SHORTENED*.
So you were wrong again.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,First, the dome of the rock “is” in Jerusalem.
Second, *great tribulation* is caused by this antichrist spirit
Third, God doesn't recon time as man does.
“one day is with the LORD as a thousand years,
and a thousand years as one day.” (2 Peter 3:8)Any more questions?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.When ye therefore shall *SEE* the abomination of desolation.
Spoken of by Daniel the prophet, **STAND** IN THE HOLY PLACE.(whoso read let him understand).Well many has seen the dome standing there for 1260years.
Obviously all flesh could not have been destroyed 1260 ago.
because that was not the end time tribulation.Lets twist again.
wakeup.
Quote (abe @ April 09 2013,17:04) Quote (Resting @ April 08 2013,19:24) Quote (abe @ April 09 2013,12:14) Hi Rest, Quote
You do not know who the two witnesses are, but I do.Would you please tell us who the TWO witnesses are?
Peace brother..
Abe,Jesus was anointed by the oil of both olive trees.
The early church the same.
The Word is one anointing–
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
The other anointing is Gods power.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Here they are together–
Act 4:29 And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,
Act 4:30 By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.
Act 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.
Act 4:32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
Act 4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.There is a relationship here with Gabriel concerning the word and Michael with power.
When we see Michael mentioned then it speaks of Gods power in both Daniel and Revelation.
Just search the two for what they have done and will do in scripture and you will see.
The two witnesses are not two men.
Neither all these two anointing do, are done before the return of Christ.
Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.Res.
Hi Rest,Thank you.
Peace brother.
Hi Rest,What about after he got MARRIED?
Peace brother.
Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2013,19:58) Hi Resting, I'm familiar with what those three believe. I have been so far reading what you believe
so don't let them discourage you from
expressing your views to us' OK?Amen.
Quote (journey42 @ April 10 2013,02:09) Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2013,17:58) Quote (Resting @ April 10 2013,17:47) You people can believe as you want. See ya.
Res.
Hi Resting, I'm familiar with what those three believe.I have been so far reading what you believe
so don't let them discourage you from
expressing your views to us' OK?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Yes don't let us stop you.
Hi Rest,Amen.
Peace brother.
Quote (abe @ April 11 2013,19:31)
It's pretty dead around here lately. I'm still waiting for my questions to be answered.Quote (journey42 @ April 11 2013,19:51)
We have to always test the scriptures. Word for word. So what type of food do you want, real food, the flesh of Christ, or junk food, something to munch on when you're not hungry?Quote (2besee @ April 11 2013,21:09) Abe, I have always thought that the two witnesses were Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
What do you think?
Jesus, and John the Baptist.
Abe
The truth is in the word. Look at the scriptures and go through it with a magnifying glass
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them
Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified..This is future. Not history. When these two are killed, their dead bodies will lie in the street.
Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and a half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
How can it be the holy spirit?
Can the holy spirit be killed?
Does the holy spirit have a body?How many times does Christ have to be crucified?
Wasn't Christ already crucified 2013 years ago?
Did they leave Christ's body in the street for 3 1/2 days?
No,
Wasn't his body was taken away quickly,
and he was put into a grave (tomb)These two will be killed in the same place “Where our Lord was crucified”
This makes it more clear.so this cancels out the two witnesses as being Christ, ….and the holy spirit.
Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
THE 3RD WOE IS THE END. THE 2ND COMING
Rev 11:15 And the SEVENTH ANGEL SOUNDED; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our LORD, and of his Christ; and he shall reign forever and ever.So the two witnesses are two prophets. They are prophesying to Israel. Is this too hard for God to do? The Jews do not read the New Testament, but the OLD TESTAMENT has all the end time prophesies that the Jews can relate to. These two witnesses will be reminding and repeating those old prophesies to them, that the times are fulfilled, and explaining why this is all happening. There will be war and chaos in Israel there at that time, and many would be so afraid. So this would be their last chance to repent. But too late for them to take part in the first resurrection, because they have to go through this.
Those Israelites that follow and listen, will be desperately hanging on for their dear lives, with the truth their only hope. These that believe and listen would make up the remnant of that generation.
Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Malachi 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. (DESTROY THE EARTH COMPLETELY AT THAT TIME)And I believe strongly that the 2nd witness is Moses.
Jude 9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
Why would Satan want Moses dead body so bad?
Did he know God was going to bring Moses again before the coming?Is this too hard for God to do?
Didn't Moses turn water into blood?
Didn't Moses send out plagues?
Wasn't Moses the first one to bring the Hebrews out of Israel, and lead a new nation with authority under God?
Is anyone picking up on anything yet?Didn't Elijah stop the rain?
James 5:17 Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months
Didn't Elijah make fire come down from heaven?
Luke 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
Wasn't Elijah taken up alive in a chariot?
For what reason?why Did these two, Moses and Elijah appear with Christ?
Matthew 17:3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
Why them two? Not the other prophets?
Luke 9:30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:
Weren't they supposed to be dead? (Moses anyway!)
Didn't Elijah make intercession for Israel?
Romans 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying
Quote (2besee @ April 11 2013,00:09) Abe, I have always thought that the two witnesses were Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
What do you think?
Hi 2b,How about Jesus and Christ?
Peace brother.
Quote (journey42 @ April 11 2013,08:00) Abe The truth is in the word. Look at the scriptures and go through it with a magnifying glass
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them
Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified..This is future. Not history. When these two are killed, their dead bodies will lie in the street.
Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and a half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
How can it be the holy spirit?
Can the holy spirit be killed?
Does the holy spirit have a body?How many times does Christ have to be crucified?
Wasn't Christ already crucified 2013 years ago?
Did they leave Christ's body in the street for 3 1/2 days?
No,
Wasn't his body was taken away quickly,
and he was put into a grave (tomb)These two will be killed in the same place “Where our Lord was crucified”
This makes it more clear.so this cancels out the two witnesses as being Christ, ….and the holy spirit.
Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
THE 3RD WOE IS THE END. THE 2ND COMING
Rev 11:15 And the SEVENTH ANGEL SOUNDED; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our LORD, and of his Christ; and he shall reign forever and ever.So the two witnesses are two prophets. They are prophesying to Israel. Is this too hard for God to do? The Jews do not read the New Testament, but the OLD TESTAMENT has all the end time prophesies that the Jews can relate to. These two witnesses will be reminding and repeating those old prophesies to them, that the times are fulfilled, and explaining why this is all happening. There will be war and chaos in Israel there at that time, and many would be so afraid. So this would be their last chance to repent. But too late for them to take part in the first resurrection, because they have to go through this.
Those Israelites that follow and listen, will be desperately hanging on for their dear lives, with the truth their only hope. These that believe and listen would make up the remnant of that generation.
Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Malachi 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. (DESTROY THE EARTH COMPLETELY AT THAT TIME)
Hi J42,(Quote)
How can it be the holy spirit?
Can the holy spirit be killed?
Does the holy spirit have a body?Rom.12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
Past Present Future?
Is.65:17 “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former things will not be remembered or come to mind.
18″But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; For behold, I create Jerusalem [for] rejoicing And her people [for] gladness.
19″I will also rejoice in Jerusalem and be glad in My people; And there will no longer be heard in her The voice of weeping and the sound of crying.
Is.66:7 “Before she travailed, she brought forth; Before her pain came, she gave birth to a boy.
8″Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Can a land(Earth) be born in one day? Can a nation be brought forth all at once? As soon as Zion travailed, she also brought forth her sons.
9″Shall I bring to the point of birth and not give delivery?” says the LORD. “Or shall I who gives delivery shut [the womb]?” says your God.
9″Shall I bring to the point of birth and not give delivery?”
“Or shall I who gives delivery shut [the womb]?”
Rom.8:23 And not only this, but also we ourselves, HAVING the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body.
Peace sister..
J42.
To me those scriptures are VALID evidence,but
most christians came out of a different mold.
Therefore can not accustom them selves to scriptures that they never had been fed with,in their christian live.Just remember Jesus words,''MANY ARE CALLED BUT A FEW CHOSEN''. They even manage to ignore that.
saying; we all will be taken up. The pastors are the oppressors.Jer 25:38.34. Howl ye shepherds and *CRY*,and wallow yourselves in the *ASHES*,ye *PRINCIPAL* of the flock,for the days of
your *SLAUGHTER* and of your *DISPERSION* are accomplished.
And ye shall *FALL* like a pleasant vessel.AND THEY WILL REJECT THESE SCRIPTURES ALSO.
What comes out of Jesus mouth can *NOT* be broken.
wakeup.
Quote (abe @ April 12 2013,06:24) Quote (2besee @ April 11 2013,00:09) Abe, I have always thought that the two witnesses were Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
What do you think?
Hi 2b,How about Jesus and Christ?
Peace brother.
Hi Abe. I haven't looked at this in ages. I will.
Quote (2besee @ April 12 2013,08:20) Quote (abe @ April 12 2013,06:24) Quote (2besee @ April 11 2013,00:09) Abe, I have always thought that the two witnesses were Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
What do you think?
Hi 2b,How about Jesus and Christ?
Peace brother.
Hi Abe. I haven't looked at this in ages. I will.
Hi WakeupMy stomach churns.
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