The 2300 days, Dan. 8:14

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  • #57530
    IM4Truth
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    Dan. 8:14 “And he said unto me, unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.”

    This verse was supposed to have been the answer to verse 13.

    v. 13 “Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, how long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?”

    But it was verse 14 that left Daniel confused and wondering, in fact it made him ill;

    v. 27 “And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.”

    The reason for feeling sick was, he thought, the host were the Jews, the sanctuary was the temple, and the daily sacrifice were the sacrifices in the temple; in other words, he thought their captivity in Babylon was extended another six and a half years.
    Twelve years later, 538 BC, and less than three years to go to finish their seventy year captivity in Babylon; Daniel prays to God for mercy and forgiveness, he has not forgotten the 2300 days.

    Dan. 9:2 “In the first year of his reign (v. 1) I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolation of Jerusalem.”

    He prayed to God for mercy and forgiveness, verses 3 through 19. The angel Ga'briel appeared to him again and said;

    v. 23 “At the beginning of thy supplication the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.”

    There are two things that are a bit ironic; one: the angel came to to explain the vision, but never mentions the 2300 days. Two: he came to give Daniel understanding, and yet he had told Daniel the vision wasn't for his time;

    Dan. 8:26 “And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.”

    Instead he gave him another prophecy of seventy weeks. He told Daniel to start counting when the order was given to rebuild Jerusalem and the streets, Dan. 9:25. This is also the only clue we have when to start counting for the 2300 days.
    Daniel knew their captivity in Babylon was to last seventy years, it is not mentioned whether he understood that the invasion by the Babylonians, in 606 BC, started their seven times punishment as well;

    Lev. 26:18 “And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.”

    A time is a year of 360 days, 7×360 = 2520 days = 2520 years. In other words, the host, the Jews, were to be trodden under, ruled over by the Gentiles until 1914 AD.

    The sanctuary, the spiritual temple of God, the saints;

    1 Cor. 3:16 “Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”

    would be trodden under by Antichrist for 1260 years, starting in 565 AD. They had washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb, and needed no further cleansing;

    Rev. 7:9 “After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands.”
    v. 14 “And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, these are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white, in the blood of the Lamb.”

    The transgression and destruction of the daily sacrifice happened in 70 AD, when the temple was destroyed.

    So, how can we know what sanctuary would be cleansed after 2300 years, starting when? The only clue is the starting time for the seventy weeks, 457 BC. Adding 2300 years to that brings us to 1843 AD.
    There are no historical records that could identify the sanctuary that was cleansed; and even though there were no eyewitnesses, there is a record of it;

    Rev. 12:7 “And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels.”
    v. 8 “And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.”

    It was a war fought by spirit beings, no human being even knew it was going on;

    v. 9 “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world; he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”

    It was God's sanctuary/temple in heaven, that was being cleansed of Satan and his demons. Satan has no more access to God's throne.

    v. 10 “And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.”

    We may not have witnessed the war in heaven, but we have certainly felt Satan's wrath on earth;

    v. 12 “Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! for the Devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he has but a short time.”

    It took Satan a generation to stir up trouble, but in the end, all it took was one shot; the assassination of the Austrian Archduke, Francis Ferdinand, and the whole world exploded into “World War One”, in 1914 AD; which then lead to “World War Two”.

    Every night, on our News Channel, we are reminded that Satan is not finished with us yet.
    He is angry because he knows, his time is almost up; do we realise how short our time is?

    God bless you all

    #64106
    Cult Buster
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    There is still a sanctuary in heaven.

    Rev 11:19  And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.  

    Does anybody remember what was inside the ark?

    2Co 5:10  For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

    #64134
    kenrch
    Participant

    Quote (Cult Buster @ Aug. 16 2007,01:00)
    There is still a sanctuary in heaven.

    Rev 11:19  And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.  

    Does anybody remember what was inside the ark?

    2Co 5:10  For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.


    CB whatever that was in the ark was written for Jews and nailed to the cross. Right ??? :p :O :D :)

    #64283
    IM4Truth
    Participant

    CB ??? What does your reply have to do with my topic???

    #64476
    acertainchap
    Participant

    What would come to Daniel's mind when the sanctuary was mentioned in his vision? Daniel would surely think about the sanctuary that was built by Solomon. See 1 Chronicles 22:17-19.

    What other possibilities might come to Daniel's mind when he heard about the sanctuary being reconsecrated? Read Psalms 102:19, Exodus 25:8-9 and Hebrews 8:1-5.

    Moses had originally been given “the pattern” so that the sanctuary in the wilderness was modeled after the sanctuary in heaven. Solomon then built a permanent version of the sanctuary to house the ark of God and to continue the worship and the sacrificial services. Only the copy on earth had been destroyed. The heavenly original still existed. Since the sanctuary on earth had been destroyed, Daniel might have thought this had something to do with the sanctuary in heaven.

    :)

    #64477
    acertainchap
    Participant

    Daniel 8:26-27

    Could it also be that Daniel did not understand his vision?

    26 “The vision of the evenings and mornings that has been given you is true, but seal up the vision, for it concerns the distant future.”

    27 I, Daniel, was exhausted and lay ill for several days. Then I got up and went about the king's business. I was appalled by the vision; it was beyond understanding.

    #64507
    IM4Truth
    Participant

    Hi Chap, is there a question in your replies for me?
    Greetings

    #64560
    acertainchap
    Participant

    Yes there is. :)

    #319708
    terraricca
    Participant

    interesting

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