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- December 5, 2014 at 5:13 am#785780WakeupParticipant
Why are there two resurrections?
What is the difference?
The first resurrection are of them that are truly in Christ, and know Christ and the Father.
They will be the first fruits.
Then all that have made it through the tribulation, and have made their robes white.
This is the first resurrection.The second resurrection is of them that don’t know Christ, but are good at heart.
They can consist of any religion, Christians also, some can not read. God is a righteous judge. He is merciful.
He understands why some are in a certain situation, and have not known Christ, because of their religions.
God will judge their hearts; by what is written in the book of life.
(I was thirsty and you gave me drink. I was hungry and you gave me food; I was sick and you visited me).As for a Christian; he must follow all the commandments. He must seek. He must be fruitful.
A tree with no fruits will be uprooted.
He must be worthy of his reward. A believer doing evil works, will be judge double.
Any Christian with no garment on, will be cast out.
All Christians do believe in Christ and in God; but that is where it stops.
They live as the gentiles do. They are of Babylon; and will be destroyed with Babylon.Shalom.
wakeup.December 5, 2014 at 6:40 am#785782NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Where does it say that those who come through the great tribulation are in the FIRST RESURRECTION?
Where is GOODNESS OF HEART said to be an arbiter of salvation?
December 6, 2014 at 3:45 pm#786314DevolutionParticipantHi Nick,
In Revelation ch 7.
John is given the vision of the 144 000 and then the multitudes .. Then one of the elders asks ..
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
December 6, 2014 at 4:05 pm#786318NickHassanParticipantHi Devo,
Yes the Jewish 144000 are shown and then the countless multitude taken from out of the great tribulation.
But it does not specify that either groups are involved in the first resurrection.
December 6, 2014 at 5:04 pm#786325DevolutionParticipantHi Kerwin,
Does God need to specify when context is doing the explaining?
Let me expand in my own words >>
The 144 000 are sealed WHILE the 4 angels of God held back the four winds (the coming tribulations) of the earth (world wide tribulations) because God mentions that this group will NOT be affected by what is COMING on the EARTH & SEA & TREES .. SAME LANGUAGE of the WRATH contained in the trumps & vials.
God also tells us that when the WRATH begins, it is poured out on THOSE WITH THE MARK OF THE BEAST .. again, context tells us this is a ONE TIME in the history of man event only initiated by the false prophet near the END of mans rule over earth.
THEN all of a sudden, John is shown multitudes of SAINTS who were killed by the tribulations (obviously large %’s during the letting loose of the four winds)
Think about this ..
There is NO tribulation EVENT occurring to ANY SAINT taking place AFTER the millennium .. tribulation of the saints ONLY occurs in the world BEFORE Christ’s 2nd coming .. so again, context (wisdom) screams out .. FIRST RESURRECTION SAINTS suffered TRIBULATION(s).
Thus Wakeup is spot on .. it can be no other way .. there just isn’t anywhere else to place it.
Thanks.
(since the coming is the 1st resurrection where saints become SPIRIT and never ever die again)!!
Christ is ruling remember .. NOT ONE believer will be hurt / killed during His millennial reign .. so context & logic demands that those saints mentioned DID indeed take part in the first resurrection .. they don’t fit anywhere else but in that tribulation group.
December 6, 2014 at 6:09 pm#786328NickHassanParticipantHI devo,
Jesus is not reigning on earth till after teh great tribulation.
he is with those who rose to meet him in the air -the wedding feast of the lamb.
December 6, 2014 at 7:15 pm#786329NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Follow all the commandments?
The OT is for the Jewish people
You mean the commandments of Jesus?
One of his is YOU MUST BE BORN again
BUT YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ONE DO YOU? - AuthorPosts
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