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Yea, thanks to all the Heaven Net team for reviving us. Thanks Mandy for your continuous updates.
Love to you
AdamA big “Thank you to t8 for getting the Website going again.” We love coming together here and we have really missed it these couple of days.” And if you Nick helped, I thank you too.
Sincerely with Christian Love Irenet8,
Thanks for your hard work and sorry for your frustrations this weekend. It was weird to not be able to come on here but it helped me to do other things. I just picked up the phone and called Irene since we were both going through withdrawls:D That was good! I appreciate you being here.
KathiYou never know how much you should appreciate something until it is taken away for awhile. Thanks T8 for having this site and the work to maintain it, it is appreciated very much.
Wm
Hi brother T8,
We have to thank you for your excellent efforts in running this wonderful Forum. We are missing your posts nowadays.. Please do share.
Blessings
AdamCan I add my thanks for the work the mods do here. A normally thankless task that only gets remembered when things go wrong.
Stuart
Thank you t8
It IS good to let people know they are appreciated very much, and in that you are often thought of .all the best to your wife and family hope all is well
charity
Hi t8 and all
I am new here but have just read for a few hours some very old discussions on the trinity here.
Some of the below t8 is a paste from a private message to you but I thought would be good online here.I really enjoyed the discussions on the trinity. I have always sat on the fence on this with serious dodgy feelings about it.
I reckon Jesus could be the Elect the superior by Gods Choice to inspire envy in all the likes of Satan that could not get a grip on God being God. and instead of Accepting from God with gratitude his place in the scheme of things he considered equality with God something to be grasped, (as Christ correctly did not, not considering equality with God something to be grasped but made himself low and the servant of all in obedience to Gods Wishes.
He represented the perfect response to the Almighty God his Creator/Father. Wow even a Confucian could get into that. I offer that therefore God does not refuse Christ equality (as a son though never Superior which would be a lie) with God but lets Christ be seated along side him in all his functions due to his pure attitude of not seeking to grasp it, that perhaps Satan himself is happy with elevating Christ above God. That it may in effect prove Christ to be taking a higher role than God so as to mock Gods criticism of Satan in seeking such a place in pride rather than being given it receiving it in Humility as Christ does if he be created/begotten of God.
In reality that would only prove the idolatry of man and not the Corruption of Christ.Any how I will look through in more detail the old discussion on the Trinity but until then can't hold back a disclaimer on my potentially erroneous doubts.
(I speak in the presence of God realising that if my thinking be wrong and the Trinity view correct I may be lessening Christ and in only seeking truth in no wise want to do so. I will Worship Christ I will worship God whichever be correct in the eyes of the Righteous Highest, and ask the highest God have mercy on my ignorance and show me better. When Thomas said Jesus Christ My Lord My God we can not ignore the lack of rebuke from Christ, but perhaps God has raised up a temptation for Jealousy in Satan Angels and Man to be envious of Christ being given the requirement of man and angel to worthship him who in turn ascribes all Glory to God correctly.).
Gods Goal in his creation is repeated over and over throughout the Scriptures…
I will be their God and they will be my people… and finally in Revelation….I will be their God and they will be my SONS.
God wants his creation to come into a relationship as being his own Children. That is a relationship of equality and not inferiority but at the same time the inferiority of a child to its parent. Christ of Heaven will then be united as the Son of God with his Bride Christ the Head of the Church the head of the Children of God.
Adam the First and the second Both from God, The first was sucked into Adams plan and lost mankind the last provided the way by defying Adams failure and temptation that Satan and the Unholy Angels followed. To those who choose Christ’s Plan of not grasping equality with God as we tried to in Eden.
In that we can be forgiven our sins by forsaking them and accepting Gods sacrifice of Christ on our behalf.
And on the topic this started on back before as it appears the site went down.
Either way Praying in Christ’s name is perfect.
As our mediator and Go between and our Husband and therefore head as he will be when we the church are wedded to him in a heavenly feast.I quite some many years back began praying Dear God due to my doubts on the topic of Trinity.
My Mother always made clear praying to the Holy Spirit was not proscribed which made me think… Pray to all or one. You can't easily ban one without the other.
I lean towards one. God the Father or God of the Universe.May the God over us all bless us with Wisdom and his Mercy.
Hi and welcome VaC,
When Thomas spoke to Jesus was he not just confirming that he had heard what
JESUS HAD TAUGHT HIM IN JN14?WAS HE NOT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT GOD WAS IN CHRIST RECONCILING THE WORLD TO HIMSELF?[2Cor 5.19]
Thanks for the welcome Nick
John 14 is Beautiful
It shows the intimacy with God offered to us through Christ and later by way of the Holy Spirit.
A very interesting Trinity passage, I forget where you stood on this in the discussions and can't do my homework on it right now. Whether the following verse confirms the trinity idea or not??? Perhaps it does or perhaps it just shows the intimacy offered through Christ that only oppresses the proud rather than those who come with a grateful humble pure heart.
The Chapter continues showing Christs submission to his father.
Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
I personally like the Book of Enoch term 'The Elect One' when refering to Christ. I am very interested in that so called Pseudegraphica (a conclusion that seems premature to me,).
It seems to clarify and clean up so much gray matter in the Bible. A bit of a Chassis to the Car? Any how I am just starting into trying to pull that one to bits. Any views out there on that? Perhaps I should search for a thread on it or start one.Thanks for the Welcome I gotta go and attend to the family now.
See Ya!
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