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I challenge anyone here to quit caffeine (with sugar) in any way shape or form.
If you are an addict, you will have severe head and body pain for a few days, but you will immediately find how well you sleep, and will be able to concentrate better.
I would like to quote another person on a blog:
Quote: “If there is one thing that I know for sure, is that everything we hold dear would be felt and the life most people know would vanish and the life that was meant to be, would appear and we would all be in love if all of us were sober. Caffeine is pushing us all around and I think it’s time we take our lives back from this pesticide. Caffeine is just another one of the drugs that future generations will have to memorize on some test that polluted their people and to marvel at how much farther they have come then there past peoples. Well at least I hope they’ll have the chance. Oh ya the power I feel is even stronger felt as I am surrounded by those addicted to it. At this moment I could thank them for the high, but I would rather listen and give them inspiration. For all of you that want to quit, it’s time and you’re not alone and any pain you feel you will overcome and become the person you’ve always dreamed of. I promise.. Unquote
I just drink water now.
To add:
I used to drink around 15 cups of coffee a day with sugar and milk (I loved it).
But I didn't sleep well, got by on 4 hours a night each day.
Now I am tired at 11pm, and sleep so well.
I am feeling more confident, and more sociable.
I dream, and remember my dreams.And my blood pressure – I do not need pills any more. My heart rate is normal.
And I am only on day five.
I drink 2 or 3 cups a day and I sleep well etc. If I have coffee after 3pm, my sleep is not as good.
Daily exercise is also a key to good sleep. When I have been working on a computer all day and not done much exercise, I feel like I have too much energy and do not sleep well.I drink about 8 cups a day with cream ,and I don,t care if I don,t get up at 6am
When I use to work I was drinking also about 15 cups a day with cream and sucker but by the time I reach 47 I quit the sucker only cream when the coffee is hot and black when cold it still like that today except for only about 8 a day some times less or more thy say caffeine fights cancer ?
I don't think it matters how much caffeine you have or what the source is (coffee or tea), it's all caffeine and caffeine is a drug. It effects your brain; constricts the blood vessels; effects dopamine; and ruins sleep. I think it's bad.
Terraricca: When I was a kid, I used to think Apple seeds fought cancer. Now I Google it and apparently it may be true? Apple seeds are poisonous though.
Quote (2besee @ Feb. 09 2014,13:23) I don't think it matters how much caffeine you have or what the source is (coffee or tea). It's all caffeine and caffeine is a drug. It effects your brain and sleep. Caffeine constricts blood vessels in brain and effects the dopamine somehow. I think it's bad. Terraricca: When I was a kid, I used to think Apple seeds fought cancer. Now I Google it and apparently it may be? Apple seeds are poisonous though.
I only start to drink coffee at 14 years old i have not stopped drinking it because the kids told me dad it is the coffee that bothers you ,so i stopped for one month and no changes appearsso i told the kids I love my coffee and fund no reason to stop drink it as of yet ,but i am picky of the type of coffee i drink ,
Quote so i stopped for one month and no changes appears Terra,
When you quit what did you drink instead?
Quote (2besee @ Feb. 10 2014,02:31) Quote so i stopped for one month and no changes appears Terra,
When you quit what did you drink instead?
just drink waterDrugs are okay in moderation or for their intended purpose. I don't have a problem with caffeine doctrinally speaking just as I do not have a problem with fermented grape juice or barley extracts, or medicines.
But I think all things in moderation and for the intended purpose. If someone feels great because they gave something up, it is not meant to be taken that the thing that was given up is wrong, but that you may have over-indulged, or that it may just be incompatible with you. e.g., some people can eat peanuts, others cannot. Some people can drink a glass of wine, some people get light headed very quickly
Here is an interesting scripture that I think may relate to this discussion:
Colossians 2:20-22
20 Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings.1TI 5:23 No longer drink water exclusively, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments.
nothing wrong with that
Quote 1TI 5:23 No longer drink water exclusively…… Ahh, so there we have it, the early Christians drank water exclusively.
Quote ….. but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments. How much was “a little”? Is Paul the only one who mentioned this?
I have been drinking wine only the past few years on and off (one, sometimes two glasses at night a few times a week), but tonight, God showed me not to. I then read a few sites (ha – baptist)…and am definitely quitting wine as well, no more, just water.
I didn't drink anything substantial for about 2 decades because I just hate being drunk. It wasn't about abstinence for me, I just had no interest in alcohol and thought it a waste of money. But if I was offered a beer or a glass of wine I would accept but would not drink anymore than that. Now I enjoy a little wine, about a glass or two, tops three once a week. I actually don't like that feeling of being drunk because I lose my peace and I didn't realise how precious it is until it is gone. I clearly remember the last two times I got drunk, (many years ago now) that I just wanted to be sober again.
I come from a family where alcohol and drugs has caused much ruin and I am thankful that I never inherited that gene or weakness or whatever it is that makes people drink too much.
We need to be wise about such things. If it causes offence, then we abstain in that person's presence. If we are tempted to get drunk, then perhaps abstain. If it has no hold on us, then we are free to drink a bit of wine without a defiled conscience.
Moderation is the key. Too much of anything (except love) will kill you. Too much alcohol, oxygen, sugar, water, salt, heat, cold, …
@ 2besee
Taken from that link you posted.Quote The phrase “not given (prosecho) to much wine” means: do not let wine “hold the mind” or pay attention to it. The Bible does not contradict itself, in I Timothy 5:23, Paul advises Timothy to use a little wine for his infirmities or for medicinal purposes only.
“not given (prosecho) to much wine” or “Not given to wine” is not the same as abstaining from drinking wine. It means not drinking too much wine or letting it rule you.We are also told elsewhere that drunkards do not inherit the Kingdom of God. It doesn't say people who drink wine do not inherit the kingdom. If it meant the latter, then why did Jesus turn water into wine if it is a sin.
i am sure the wine that Christ and the apostles drink in their time was fare more natural than the one we have today
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 10 2014,23:53) i am sure the wine that Christ and the apostles drink in their time was fare more natural than the one we have today
depends who you get your wine fromQuote (2besee @ Feb. 10 2014,19:36) I have been drinking wine only the past few years on and off (one, sometimes two glasses at night a few times a week), but tonight, God showed me not to. I then read a few sites (ha – baptist)…and am definitely quitting wine as well, no more, just water.
2bcIsn't it comforting when you discover something that you did not know before and be able to apply to your life? Brings such a cleasning feeling doesn't it? and sharing that insight is just as cleansing.
even so; if you really are concerned over caffine, then perhaps you should start with sugar. read some lables of your favorite things and you will be surprised how much sugar you intake on a daily basis and the toll it takes on the human body.
removing sugar from your diet is a bit more then just removing caffine.
love your concern over humanity or i could be off and your religious spirit is getting the best of you.
I agree with T8 on this one, moderation is the key. With the addition of knowing your body.
good going on your new discovery. hope it makes you feel 10 years younger.
The body that we have is the Holy Temple of God, and we should take very good care of it.
The Apostle Paul is speaking specifically here relative to the sin of fornication, but I believe that it applies also, to being careful as to what we eat, drink, or making sure that we exercise to keep our bodies and mind healthy so we can serve the Lord effectively.
I used to drink quite a bit of tea, but now I am trying to limit myself to 2 cups a day. One in the morning and at noon, and no, tea after 7PM.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (t8 @ Feb. 10 2014,22:48) @ 2besee
Taken from that link you posted.Quote The phrase “not given (prosecho) to much wine” means: do not let wine “hold the mind” or pay attention to it. The Bible does not contradict itself, in I Timothy 5:23, Paul advises Timothy to use a little wine for his infirmities or for medicinal purposes only.
“not given (prosecho) to much wine” or “Not given to wine” is not the same as abstaining from drinking wine. It means not drinking too much wine or letting it rule you.We are also told elsewhere that drunkards do not inherit the Kingdom of God. It doesn't say people who drink wine do not inherit the kingdom. If it meant the latter, then why did Jesus turn water into wine if it is a sin.
According to some, the wine from water was grape juice, not alcohol.
Also:
Jesus was King yes, from birth.
'It is not for kings, O Lemuel,
it is not for kings to drink wine,
or for rulers to desire strong drink;
lest they drink and forget what has been decreed,
and pervert the rights of all the afflicted.'
Proverbs 31:4And Christians..
'made us a kingdom,
priests to his God and Father,
to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever.
Amen.'
Revelation 1:6'And the LORD spoke to Aaron,
saying,
“Drink no wine nor strong drink,
you nor your sons with you,
when you go into the tent of meeting,
lest you die;
it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations.
You are to distinguish between the holy and the common,
and between the unclean and the clean.”
Levi 10:8“Say to the people of Israel,
When either a man or a woman makes a special vow,
the vow of a Nazirite,
to separate himself to the LORD,
he shall separate himself from wine and strong drink;
he shall drink no vinegar made from wine or strong drink,
and shall not drink any juice of grapes or eat grapes,
fresh or dried.
All the days of his separation he shall eat nothing that is produced by the grapevine,
not even the seeds or the skins.'
Num 6:1I think the story of the obedient Rechabites (Jeremiah 35) is a good one. And John the Baptist did not touch wine.
I think you are right t8, maybe. But by moderation, I would say twice a year?!
If wine is causing us trouble, then we should stop.When I drink, I get really happy, and turn on my old music, and sing to it… but one glass becomes two glasses, a few nights a week becomes every night of the week. And I know that when I was first drawn to God, I drank no alcohol. I needed none (I lived with a drunk which put me off) however…I started drinking, and I do not believe it's good for me. I personally do not think after reading those scriptures that a Christian should drink to feel good. But that's just my opinion.
Quote (princess @ Feb. 11 2014,03:28) 2bc Isn't it comforting when you discover something that you did not know before and be able to apply to your life? Brings such a cleasning feeling doesn't it? and sharing that insight is just as cleansing.
even so; if you really are concerned over caffine, then perhaps you should start with sugar. read some lables of your favorite things and you will be surprised how much sugar you intake on a daily basis and the toll it takes on the human body.
removing sugar from your diet is a bit more then just removing caffine.
love your concern over humanity or i could be off and your religious spirit is getting the best of you.
I agree with T8 on this one, moderation is the key. With the addition of knowing your body.
good going on your new discovery. hope it makes you feel 10 years younger.
Thanks Princess :o)
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