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I had never known anything about Spiritual Battles.
I guess I believed there was no such thing, don't know why?
Lately I'v been spending time on the internet looking at this.
The Spirit of Jezebel I found the most interesting, it's what got me started.
Just google Spirit of Jezebel and it's all over the net, discussions on it.
The Bible says
Ephesians 6:12
For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world's rulers of the darkness of this age, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Also I read some Catholics believe the Antichrist has infiltrated the Catholic Church.
Example HERE
Interesting stuff.
What do you say?
Do you believe there are Spiritual Battles going on that we can't see?
Do you think your protected from them?
I won't be posting as much anymore, but thought it would make a good topic.
Quote (shimmer @ July 17 2011,12:15) I had never known anything about Spiritual Battles. I guess I believed there was no such thing, don't know why?
Lately I'v been spending time on the internet looking at this.
The Spirit of Jezebel I found the most interesting, it's what got me started.
Just google Spirit of Jezebel and it's all over the net, discussions on it.
The Bible says
Ephesians 6:12
For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world's rulers of the darkness of this age, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Also I read some Catholics believe the Antichrist has infiltrated the Catholic Church.
Example HERE
Interesting stuff.
What do you say?
Do you believe there are Spiritual Battles going on that we can't see?
Do you think your protected from them?
I won't be posting as much anymore, but thought it would make a good topic.
Hi Shimmer,Did you know according to Papal prophecy: the next Pope,
after Ratzinger, is suppose to be the last Pope.
Are you aware of this prophecy?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgYes Ed. My Dad was saying, and he's a Catholic.
But thanks, I'll look into that more.
This is interesting stuff. Iv been learning so much in just the past few days.
I'm also interested how these spirits spread. Because you can see, example the Toronto Blessing, how fast this happens.
Ed,
Theres a lot of writing here, but it's worth reading. I was reading it yesterday, so I'v taken out parts of it, sorry it's so long.
Writing by Vassula Ryden
http://www.tlig.org/en/spirituality/letters/jezebel/
Today, the world does not believe in the existence of Satan as an evil spirit or any other evil spirit, nor does it believe in the other dark forces that plague God's creation. To accept that the evil spirits exist is already to have conquered part of the spiritual battle.
Many Christians today are not aware of his presence and the presence of the evil spirits either on the physical aspect of things or in the spiritual sense and the effect these evil spirits can do to us. Thus by rejecting this reality, we are giving Satan and his fallen angels their freedom to move and go about without being detected and without hindering them. Satan is not just a form of evil, or an energy, or an idea, but a real personality with intelligence. With him are hordes of other evil spirits who are in the same battle against the Kingdom of God, that were they to be physically seen by the eye, they would darken the sun.
We know and have learnt that evil spirits are never content to roam around marshlands and open spaces, but are always seeking to make their abode into a body and soul. They roam to look for “openings” and opportunities to lodge in souls.
In this article I shall mainly focus on one spirit, that is very common and found especially in religious circles, but as well in offices, families and circle of friends. One could detect it easily if one knows its behaviour. It is a product of the flesh that opens the door to an evil spirit. It is behaviour that operates through a person to control by the use of manipulative, domineering and intimidating tactics. When it is in the church it is to disrupt the flow of the Spirit. The devil hates the prophetic flow of God, because the prophetic ministry demands repentance and cuts away evil without compromise. The prophet always speaks against Jezebel. Additionally, the prophetic words come with creative power, which renders the enemy helpless. There is such significance in the fact that Jezebel wanted to destroy Elijah. The Jezebel spirit hates the prophetic, uncompromising voice. It cannot accomplish its agenda with a prophet around.
Jezebels have a personality that has been shaped by controlling demonic thoughts. Therefore, the person must be willing to ruthlessly face truth and be willing to let God crucify his flesh. The flesh and its patterns must be subjected to the Holy Spirit daily in order for the person to be permanently set free.
Jesus had warned the Church at Thyatira about this diabolical spirit called Jezebel. Jezebel's aim is to silence God's prophets because in doing so, it destroys the testimony of Jesus, which is the spirit of prophecy (Rev.19:10). It takes you away from the truth and from the words of our Lord given to us for the benefit of His Church, to follow what does not come from God. Expert in aping God, it can lure many faithful away from the real prophetic revelation that is given by God's grace. Since a Jezebel spirit counterfeits the prophetic anointing in gifts, calling, and authority, a prophetic leader will become a target of a Jezebel spirit, as will a church in which the prophetic is held in high regard. A prophetic church and its leaders must realize that if the spirit of Elijah is going to return, so will its counter-spirit – the Jezebel spirit.
In these last days the Holy Spirit led us to be aware more than ever of this evil spirit revealing to us its name. It had infiltrated in some of our prayer groups in the past, causing a lot of damage, frustration, quarrels, and finally division and destruction as well as in the Associations of True life in God. It would not fail to penetrate as well in the good work of the Coordinators' team and disrupt it, but with the grace of our Lord we will always succeed in discerning it and remove it from within our circles before damage is done. Just like the angel removing the darnel from the wheat, I have a feeling that these are the times when our Lord is cleansing His field.
By calling herself a “prophetess,” Jezebel was teaching and leading God's bondservants astray. Over the centuries, she has been around, seeking to attack the prophetic ministry given either on a person or in the Church, and where the prophetic gift is present, you can be sure that sooner or later the Jezebel spirit will manifest itself. I sometimes doubt that the person carrying the Jezebel spirit has any notion that she or he carries it, since this person is determined in reaching his or her goal at any price.
Probably most deceiving to many is that Jezebel was religious and did religious things. She was the daughter of Ethbaal, meaning “with Baal”. She converted her husband Ahab to follow Baal. Ahab married her against God's command. The name Jezebel specifically means “without dwelling or habitation.” A true explanation of Jezebel can clearly be described as the worship of self-will.
The clear battle with the Jezebel spirit is over people. In the church, that spirit desires to rule and control the people of God. If we are not people of decision, we will fall under the spell of the Jezebel spirit. She is a supporter of, and heavily influential in, religious organization as well as politics. While Jezebel is religious, she wields her false power against the true prophetic flow of God. She hates the prophets and all prophetic ministry. Specifically she hates repentance, humility and intercessory prayer, because they destroy her strongholds of stubbornness and pride.
Jezebels love to project a sense of power they do not have. It is based on intimidation, in order to cloud the minds of those they desire to oppress.
Yes, if one does not go along with his or her action, there will be consequences. Intimidation always seeks to move the person through threats. This use of fear puts the victim under control out of fear of losing something precious to him. This is blackmail and far from God's love, because these are all improper channels, use of illegitimate power and authority, projection of power that is not ours to use. This by no means insinuates that a person shouldn't stand up for himself, but rather that it should be done through proper channels. Manipulating, intimidating and dominating another human being are blatant uses of control and illegitimate authority.
Self-pity is clearly a conscious resignation and surrendering to the victim mentality. “When you see yourself as a victim, you literally enter into sin with Jezebel, because you are not resisting her,” says one book about the Jezebel spirit. They talk about brotherly love but they do just the opposite, consciously or unconsciously. This “love” is not a divine love or even a refined human love. Rather, it is totally selfish love with its own agenda, seeking recognition or control….
….They would play the Master who are spiritually elevated and exceeding you, instead of the humble servants of God who follow what Scriptures say: “There must be no competition among you, no conceit; but everybody is to be self-effacing. Always consider the other person to be better than yourself, so that nobody thinks of his own interest first but everybody thinks of the other people's interests instead.” (Philippians 2: 3-4).
Jezebel, I have noticed has many traits. She will take any trait so long as she attains her goal.
They feel compelled to pray over others, but this urge is not from God.
The Jezebel spirit is in contrast to the will of God. Her will has become god. Her will must be accomplished, regardless of the consequences. Not only did Jezebel steal authority, she manipulated those in leadership. She used lies and distortions. God waits for som
eone to stand up to her – to confront her. Many succumb to the Ahab spirit and simply turn their heads from her tactics. They reason that, after all, she is religious and works hard in the Church. The greatest weakness among leaders is the fear of confrontation. They want peace without paying the price of confronting the manipulation and controlling tactics of the Jezebel spirit.Sometimes Jezebel becomes temporarily remorseful, but soon she'll go back to her controlling tactics. When it comes to prayer, she would be praying for her own agenda. There is no power in that. True, fervent intercessory prayer causes hearts to change from pride and loftiness to repentance and humility; nothing brings a greater death blow to the spirit of Jezebel. As is typical of a Jezebel, she would complain that she wasn't appreciated enough. In her self-centred nature she would go to any lengths, by lying and exaggerating, to make herself look spiritual; after all when being self-centred, no one is as important as they are. Jezebel would state again and again that her decision was the result of much prayer. She knows how to garner sympathy by knowing how to cry at the drop of a hat and fool almost anyone.
Ammunition too is another issue. Jezebels are continually collecting ammunition. They acquire information that they can use against you in case they ever begin to lose their grip on power. All what they would have collected they would use against you without mercy.
The most cunning and yet most common way the spirit of control operates is through manipulation. Manipulation is used in several ways: such as flattery, self-pity, hinting for something, etc.
Ammunition too is another issue. Jezebels are continually collecting ammunition. They acquire information that they can use against you in case they ever begin to lose their grip on power. All what they would have collected they would use against you without mercy.
It is of utmost importance to remain humble, to have the heart of a servant, and not a tyrant. Ego probably stands in the way more than any other factor in becoming responsible. When ego has not been dealt with, someone who has been given responsibility begins to think of himself as without faults or flaws. Jesus is our example, and he opposes the proud. “God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble”, (1 Peter 5:5). Anyone who is tempted to control gives an open door to the Jezebel spirit.
One major characteristic of a controller is that he has to be right. He has no tolerance for being wrong and will rarely, if ever, admit to wrongdoing. A Jezebel spirit is never wrong, unless it is a temporary admittance of guilt to gain “favour” with someone. When a Jezebel apologizes it is never in true repentance or acknowledgment of wrongdoing but rather, “I'm sorry your feelings were hurt.”
In a dialogue, he will twist things around to the point of making you feel you need to apologize for causing him to make a bad decision. I have also noticed some other characteristic from the Jezebel spirit. The controller will always take the glory for anything that looks good. He will quickly overlook those who did the hard work and easily would step on people, sacrificing all etiquette to be the one who receives credit.
Is Jezebel a spirit or a work of the flesh? Jezebel is a spirit, but it has found access through uncrucified flesh. You will never have a person with a controlling spirit admit he is wrong. It is always the fault of someone else.
Many times the ones that carry the Jezebel spirit talk non-stop. They have a need to feel power and authority, and they will do anything to achieve it. They feel they know more than anyone; therefore they dominate all conversations. Jezebel uses talking as a form of control.
There is no place for ego in the Kingdom of God.
There is no doubt that God chose us to serve Him without our own agendas. For many of us, we have determined to serve God “our way.”
We must therefore mature and acknowledge His Leadership and comprehend His words: “I am the Vine, you are the branches, He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.” (John 15:5).
Some people who had a change of heart and acknowledged God as Number One in their lives are doing their own thing for God. They are loners and not team workers. Without a prayer life, there will be no awareness of what the Lord is saying, and passivity and lukewarmness will take over. Jesus was not on the earth to carry His will, but to fulfil the Will of the Father. As believers, we must renounce our own agenda and seek to fulfil His purpose in our lives. The Holy Spirit is the Guide to reveal to us His purpose.
We have learnt how the Jezebel spirit is full of ego and envious as well. To desire (envy) the gifts of the Spirit given to others for your own glory is a sin. It resembles the sin of Cain over Abel. Abel was pleasing to God and because of egoistical reasons and envy, Cain sliced Abel's throat.
Read attentively and see if anyone of you might start having traits of this spirit. If you think you recognize yourself in any part, remember all is not lost, but there is a wide door of escape and that is: REPENTANCE.
God bless you all,
In Christ,
VassulaEd, tell me about the last Catholic Pope. Please. I don't know anything about it. I'm tired of googling.
Quote (shimmer @ July 18 2011,00:05) Ed, tell me about the last Catholic Pope. Please. I don't know anything about it. I'm tired of googling.
Hi Shimmer,The third secret of Fatima was a disbanding of the Papacy. (Link)
The Prophecy of the Popes, attributed to Saint Malachy, is a list of 112,
beginning with Pope Celestine II elected in 1143 and concluding with a pope described in
the prophecy as “Peter the Roman”, whose pontificate will end in the destruction of the city of Rome. (Link)Nostradamus (Link)
Nostradamus said that the two popes following John Paul will not be around very long. From CENTURY I-4:
“He says…it refers to the pope that will come between the present pope and the last pope. This one
will have a short reign. He says that some of the political blunders and mistakes made by this pope
is what makes it easier for the last pope to be a tool of the Anti-Christ.”The comet, referred to earlier from CENTURY IV-67, will be a sign leading up the assassination of the pope
succeeding John Paul II. Nostradamus noted that John Paul will be killed because his concern for the human condition,
and his many travels, will put him in too many vulnerable situations. The pope following him, however, will be assassinated
by the Anti-Christ's forces in order that a pope under their control can be set in his place. It is this last pope that will bring about
the downfall of the Catholic Church. Here's what Nostradamus was reported saying about him:CENTURY IV-86: “This man will have a physical deformity of some sort…either of the shoulder or of the foot…he was born that way…
His parents were involved with the Nazi movement in France.” From CENTURY II-76: “The lame priest refers to the French pope
who is of service to the Anti-Christ…He voluntarily contributes the inner resources of the information that he, as pope,
has access to. Information that the Anti-Christ could not have gotten in a million years just through his spies,
had the pope remained true to the other side.”Nostradamus reports that the Anti-Christ will focus much attention on undermining the authority of the Catholic Church.
One thing he will do, with the help of the last pope, is ransack the Vatican Library. From CENTURY V-43:
“He will do this by revealing all the controversial things he finds that are hidden away in the Vatican Library.
Things the church has declared people should not read for it would be threatening to their faith. He will be sure
that these things are distributed about.” He also notes, however, from CENTURY I-62: “It will bring to light information
and facts and knowledge that have been suppressed for several centuries…In a way the Anti-Christ will be doing a good thing
by ransacking the Vatican Library. Because later on that knowledge…will be open to the whole world and available for everyone to use.”Your friend
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote Nostradamus reports that the Anti-Christ will focus much attention on undermining the authority of the Catholic Church.
One thing he will do, with the help of the last pope, is ransack the Vatican Library. From CENTURY V-43:
“He will do this by revealing all the controversial things he finds that are hidden away in the Vatican Library.
Things the church has declared people should not read for it would be threatening to their faith. He will be sure
that these things are distributed about.” He also notes, however, from CENTURY I-62: “It will bring to light information
and facts and knowledge that have been suppressed for several centuries…Interesting…
According to the Early Church Writings, they all believed the AntiChrist would be a Jew. In Isreal. What do you think of that?
Ed,
See these key points here-
These are from two different sources:It is a product of the flesh that opens the door to an evil spirit. It is behaviour that operates through a person to control by the use of manipulative, domineering and intimidating tactics. When it is in the church it is to disrupt the flow of the Spirit. The devil hates the prophetic flow of God, because the prophetic ministry demands repentance and cuts away evil without compromise. The prophet always speaks against Jezebel. Additionally, the prophetic words come with creative power, which renders the enemy helpless. There is such significance in the fact that Jezebel wanted to destroy Elijah. The Jezebel spirit hates the prophetic, uncompromising voice. It cannot accomplish its agenda with a prophet around.
In the church, Ahab and Jezebel represent the destruction of the individual family, and church family. The church is to be the bride of Christ and the head is her bridegroom, Jesus Christ. Ahab destroys the bridegroom priestly role and Jezebel pollutes the women with rebellion. All becomes flesh. Spiritual purity is gone, and replaced with ego-centric behavior and motives.
Flesh… Egocentrical – no spirituality.
Quote (shimmer @ July 18 2011,21:31) Quote Nostradamus reports that the Anti-Christ will focus much attention on undermining the authority of the Catholic Church.
One thing he will do, with the help of the last pope, is ransack the Vatican Library. From CENTURY V-43:
“He will do this by revealing all the controversial things he finds that are hidden away in the Vatican Library.
Things the church has declared people should not read for it would be threatening to their faith. He will be sure
that these things are distributed about.” He also notes, however, from CENTURY I-62: “It will bring to light information
and facts and knowledge that have been suppressed for several centuries…Interesting…
According to the Early Church Writings, they all believed the AntiChrist would be a Jew. In Isreal. What do you think of that?
Hi Shimmer,There is no such thing as ‘The Antichrist’; it is ‘the spirit of antichrist’, not a person.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd, this is quite an interesting read.
Been talking on other forums about it.
Seems they all know about. Seems no-one here does. Must be a reason.
Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 01 2011,22:56) Ed, this is quite an interesting read. Been talking on other forums about it.
Seems they all know about. Seems no-one here does. Must be a reason.
Hi Shimmer,Are you referring to Rev.2:18-29?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd, yes it is in Revelations and in 1st Kings. However this spirit has revealed itself more to people over the past since then, and people are now able to discern it.
Its very cunning, and can fool almost anyone, except those who have the gift of discernment.
The Jezebel knows this too, and will do anything to get them out of the way, obviously because the ones who know will eventually expose them. Many people do not know what it is but know somethings just not right. Others may think the discerning person to be strange in that they seem obsessed with one person, when no-one else can see anything wrong. What happens in the spiritual world is much different than what you see here. But what happens behind the scenes, can be very cunning, hurtful, and powerfull. Those who can discern are the most hurt. What may seem like simply angry words, or some such thing, can really harm the person. Because its spiritual, and those who can discern also discern the spirit attatched to it. Even Elijah, despite having power from above, ran and hid. And even prayed for death.
How are you Ed?
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 02 2011,05:38) Are you referring to Rev.2:18-29?
Although it says what it does in revelations, about commiting adultery with Jezebel, and Jezebel being thrown onto a bed, etc… the book of revelations is writen in a symbolic language and you know, things aren't always as they seem. Plus things are learnt or revealed with time. Jezebels are usually married. They don't always have affairs or commit adultery. However, they use their charm to get people to listen to them. They usually introduce strange doctrines that cause confusion. They are always very intellegent. Those who “commit adultery” with them are those who are charmed by them. Those who admire them and even by entering into a conversation with them you are putting yourself at risk of “commiting adultery” with them, but remember this doesnt nessesarily mean you are thinking lustful thoughts.The best thing to do if you suspect a Jezebel Spirit is to avoid them. If it's on a forum don't even read the posts. For by doing so you are at risk. Jesus said not to tolerate Jezebel. Yehu, with the help of Her Eunichs destroyed her. When he was riding toward Jareel he – 'drove furiously' – and didnt stop untill she was gone. So, did he stop and talk, have a conversation with her? NO. He – as Jesus tells us to do – did not tolerate her, at all.
Jezebels will talk non stop about God and Jesus, but Jezebel in fact hates God.
I can't post much anymore. I'm reading the Bible, etc. But take care.
This is a text my sister cc me that she wrote to her pastor, she is asking for some guidance
Pastor, If we are talking about principalities how do you know its principalities unless the word of god reveals it to us…as long as we are in this world we will have spiritual warfare until the satanic realm is destroyed and cast into utter darkness forever…dealing with and being controlled by are two things…it is the word of god that puts a choke hold on everything the enemy tries to speak to us and over us….Pastor who is subject to this choke hold, if it is the principalities of darkness why or how do they still make noise and maneuver?
Princess, I understand. Completly. I had to read what was wrote a few times though. The first battle won is realising, often through the knowledge of others, that what we have been going through, is not all in our minds, but is in fact something else. Thats the first battle. What the next step is I do not know. I find, confrontation at times can be good, but then at other times when it gets nowhere can make one literally and spiritually sick. I don't have the answers yet but when and if I do, I will let you know. I'll post it here.
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