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  • #34788
    charity
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    Please I pray ponder again

    I rub these two scriptures against each other for maybe even to find what truth may have been perverted from generation to generation snares concerning the stone that was laid and became the corner stone Christ and is purpose on earth

    I find we all up against lies and so be it that the latter day’s Daniel saw caused him to turn pail as he saw what we should encounter over the truth been hiden

    Isa 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

    Act 13:36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:
    Act 13:37 But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.

    The prince of peace whom God rose from the dead men have taken and hung on a tree

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    #34793
    NickHassan
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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 19 2006,23:25)

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    Hi W,
    That scripture has a dubious history according to Eusebius.
    The apostles baptised in ONE name Jesus Christ of Nazareth, in whose name they healed and raised people from the dead.
    The Holy Spirit has no name to baptise in being of God.

    So tell me NH.

    If men can take scriptures and throw them out if they dont fit their belief, then what have we done different than the JWs or the Mormons or any other cult or religion.

    We believe….
    II Tim 3:16
    All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    You should believe the scriptures and stop trying to make them say what you want.

    You open yourself to decieving spirits and doctrines of devils.
    :O


    Hi W,
    Have you read the evidence?
    What did Eusebius say?
    Why should he lie?
     

    Jesus is not and never has been the name of God.
    It is the name given to the Son of God.
    Baptising in his name is not baptising in God's name.
    There is salvation in the name of the Son of God.
    There is salvation in no other name under heaven.
    Know the Son and do not continue to deny him.

    He is the mediator and high priest of God, not the God to which he is mediator and priest.

    #34830

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    Hi WJ:

    My understanding of Matt. 28:19 is that the emphasis is “in the name of” of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, and that name is Jesus which means “Jehovah is salvation”.

    They are two souls, the soul of the Father and of the Son.  They are one in the Spirit of Holiness and are united in the God's purpose for this world which is the salvation of God's children from the consequence of sin as the meaning of the name Jesus indicates.

    “And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name witten in their foreheads”. (Rev. 14:1)  Having their Father's name implies that they have their Father's character. As Hebrews 1:3 states of Jesus that he is the express image of God's person.

    “This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the Corner.  Neither is there salvation in any other: for none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved”. (Acts 4:11-12)

    The Apostles baptized solely in the name of Jesus.  (Acts 2:38, Acts 8:16)

    94

    Your statements seem to be a denial of the Spirit having his own entity.

    If you look at the scripture closely you will see there is no other way to interpret Jesus words.

    KJV
    Matt 28:19

    KJV
    Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    NKJV
    Go therefore* and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

    NLT
    Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

    NIV
    Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in* the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

    ESV
    “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in* the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

    NASB
    “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

    RSV
    Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

    ASV
    Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit:

    YLT
    having gone, then, disciple all the nations, (baptizing them — to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

    Darbys
    Go [therefore] and make disciples of all the nations, baptising them to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit;

    Websters
    Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

    HNV
    Go, and make talmidim of all nations, immersing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Ruach HaKodesh,

    The emphasis should be on what Jesus said.

    All the major tranlations agree that Jesus is speaking of three.

    Jesus knew what he was saying, after all he spoke much of the Holy Spirit calling him another.

    Why can we not accept the scriptures in light of all the scriptures?

    The Apostles new that all the fulness of God was in Christ and that he was given a name above all names, so they baptised in the Name of Jesus.

    Look at the preceeding vs to Matt 28:19.

    Matt 28:18
    And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    They also spoke of the Father and they also spoke of the Holy Spirit.

    II Tim 4:
    3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

    4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

    ???

    #34832

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    Hi W,
    Have you read the evidence?
    What did Eusebius say?
    Why should he lie?

    Jesus is not and never has been the name of God.
    It is the name given to the Son of God.
    Baptising in his name is not baptising in God's name.
    There is salvation in the name of the Son of God.
    There is salvation in no other name under heaven.
    Know the Son and do not continue to deny him.

    He is the mediator and high priest of God, not the God to which he is mediator and priest.

    NH
    If we follow your practice and interpret scripture by heresay.

    Then we have nothing to depend on.

    Then we might as well all just interpret scripture by what ever our little minds tell us using heresay.

    And so we have nothing but a book of words.

    Why should he lie you say. What about the inspiration of the Holy Spirit through Mathew who walked with our Lord and heard his words?

    II Tim 4:
    3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

    4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

    ???

    #34851
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi W,
    In whose name was the beggar healed?
    Acts 3
    “4And Peter, fastening his eyes upon him with John, said, Look on us.

    5And he gave heed unto them, expecting to receive something of them.

    6Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.

    7And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.

    8And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God.”

    In whose name is salvation preached?
    Acts 2
    “38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. “

    In whose name did Paul baptise?
    ACTS 19
    ” 1And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

    2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

    3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

    4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

    5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.”

    the LORD JESUS CHRIST.
    Why is this?

    #34871

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    Hi W,
    In whose name was the beggar healed?
    Acts 3
    “4And Peter, fastening his eyes upon him with John, said, Look on us.

    5And he gave heed unto them, expecting to receive something of them.

    6Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.

    7And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.

    8And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God.”

    In whose name is salvation preached?
    Acts 2
    “38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. “

    In whose name did Paul baptise?
    ACTS 19
    ” 1And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

    2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

    3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

    4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

    5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.”

    the LORD JESUS CHRIST.
    Why is this?

    NH you obviously dont read my post…

    Here ill paste it again…

    The emphasis should be on what Jesus said.

    All the major tranlations agree that Jesus is speaking of three.

    Jesus knew what he was saying, after all he spoke much of the Holy Spirit calling him another.

    Why can we not accept the scriptures in light of all the scriptures?

    The Apostles new that all the fulness of God was in Christ and that he was given a name above all names, so they baptised in the Name of Jesus.

    Look at the preceeding vs to Matt 28:19.

    Matt 28:18
    And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    They also spoke of the Father and they also spoke of the Holy Spirit.

    II Tim 4:
    3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

    4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto

    I said the Apostles new that the fullness of the Godhead was in Jesus and that he was given a name above all. :)

    #34882
    Cult Buster
    Participant

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    The prince of peace whom God rose from the dead men have taken and hung on a tree

    Who is this Prince of Peace?

    Isaiha 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    #34883
    Cult Buster
    Participant

    WJ

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    Your statements seem to be a denial of the Spirit having his own entity.

    If you look at the scripture closely you will see there is no other way to interpret Jesus words.

    KJV
    Matt 28:19

    KJV
    Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    NKJV
    Go therefore* and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

    NLT
    Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

    NIV
    Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in* the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

    ESV
    “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in* the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

    NASB
    “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

    RSV
    Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

    ASV
    Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit:

    YLT
    having gone, then, disciple all the nations, (baptizing them — to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

    Darbys
    Go [therefore] and make disciples of all the nations, baptising them to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit;

    Websters
    Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

    HNV
    Go, and make talmidim of all nations, immersing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Ruach HaKodesh,

    The emphasis should be on what Jesus said.

    All the major tranlations agree that Jesus is speaking of three.

    Jesus knew what he was saying, after all he spoke much of the Holy Spirit calling him another.

    Why can we not accept the scriptures in light of all the scriptures?

    The Apostles new that all the fulness of God was in Christ and that he was given a name above all names, so they baptised in the Name of Jesus.

    Look at the preceeding vs to Matt 28:19.

    Matt 28:18
    And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    They also spoke of the Father and they also spoke of the Holy Spirit.

    II Tim 4:
    3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

    4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

    Well presented WJ.  

    :)  :)  :)

    Zec 7:11  But they refused to hearken, and pulled away the shoulder, and stopped their ears, that they should not hear.

    #34896
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi W,
    You say
    “I said the Apostles new that the fullness of the Godhead was in Jesus and that he was given a name above all”
    Your GODHEAD INCLUDES JESUS.

    So was Jesus in Jesus?

    #34946

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    Hi W,
    You say
    “I said the Apostles new that the fullness of the Godhead was in Jesus and that he was given a name above all”
    Your GODHEAD INCLUDES JESUS.

    I suppose Jesus is in his Body, wouldnt you say????

    #34947

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    Hi W,
    You say
    “I said the Apostles new that the fullness of the Godhead was in Jesus and that he was given a name above all”
    Your GODHEAD INCLUDES JESUS.

    NH

    Col 2:9
    For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead **bodily**.
    :O

    #34948
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi w,
    So what do you mean highlighting bodily?
    That “the Godhead” minus Jesus dwelled in Jesus?

    What ever you see there is a vessel
    and there is contents of that vessel.

    Christ the man was the vessel for His Father's Spirit.

    #34980

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    What ever you see there is a vessel
    and there is contents of that vessel.

    Christ the man was the vessel for His Father's Spirit.

    NH

    Exactly, Father,Son and Holy Ghost in that vessel, his body.
    :D

    #34982
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi W,
    So in what way was he a man like us, body, soul and human spirit?

    #35064
    Cult Buster
    Participant

    NH

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    Hi W,
    So in what way was he a man like us, body, soul and human spirit?

    There has on this forum been much confusion between Christ’s mission or “office” as Messiah and that of His substance which is The Eternal God.

    When Christ was to leave heaven and was to take the form of a man He did not cease to be God. He simply put aside His own divine power and was dependent on God for power. This makes Him our example to follow because we too are to depend totally on God.

    Heb 2:14  Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

    He had to overcome Satan while living as a man. Christ did not come to earth to show what a God can do, but what  man can do when he depends on God for power. He succeeded where Adam failed.

    Heb 2:16  For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
    Heb 2:17  Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
    Heb 2:18  For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

    Heb 2:9  But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

    A human body was fashioned for Christ. A body which had sinful propensities just like ours. A body less than what Adam had,  weakened by the curse of sin.

    Rom 8:3  For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

    Christ condemned sin in the flesh. He resisted sin. Don’t forget that He laid aside His divine power and did not use it for His own benefit, overcoming temptation relying on God for power. We too can resist temptation if we rely on God for power. Christ was our example.

    Heb 2:17  Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
    Heb 2:18  For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

    Luk 4:2  (Jesus)  Being forty days tempted of the devil.
    Luk 4:12  And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

    Who was being tempted here? Jesus;    The Lord thy God.

    1Ti 3:16  And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

    Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he either ceases to be mistaken or he ceases to be honest.

    #35082
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CB,
    You are so close to the truth.
    Now believe in the Son of God.
    He really is a son

    Prov 30
    ” 4Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? “

    #35119
    Cult Buster
    Participant

    NH. The Son of God is also God.

    Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

    Col 2:9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily

    Phi 2:5  Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus
    Phi 2:6  Who being in the form of God  thought it not robbery to be equal with God

    Rom 9:5  Whose are the fathers  and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came  who is over all God blessed for ever Amen

    Tit 2:13  Looking for that blessed hope  and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ

    1Ti 3:16  And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness  God was manifest in the flesh

    1Jo 5:20  And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding  that we may know him that is true  and we are in him that is true  even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God  and eternal life.

    Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

    Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    Joh 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,..

    Mic 5:2  But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

    Heb 7:16  Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

    Mat 26:63  But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.
    Mat 26:64  Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
    Mat 26:65  Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy;

    (The high priest understood Jesus’ claim to be God and wrongly accused Him of blasphemy.)
    Blasphemy can only be committed against God.

    Mat 9:2  And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.
    Mat 9:3  And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth. (They knew that only God can forgive sins.)
    Mat 9:4  And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?

    2Co 4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

    Col 1:15  Who is the image of the invisible God,…

    Heb 1:2  Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
    Heb 1:3  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

    1Jo 5:20  And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

    Isa 40:3  The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

    Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

    Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    Joh 1:10  He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

    Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

    Heb 1:2  Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

    Heb 1:10  And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

    Gen 1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image,

    Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

    Mat 9:6  But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.

    Mar 2:5  When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.
    Mar 2:6  But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,
    Mar 2:7  Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

    Col 3:13  Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

    Joh 5:22  For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
    Joh 5:23  That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

    Joh 14:1  Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

    Heb 1:6  And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
    Rev 22:8  And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
    Rev 22:9  Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
    Joh 9:38  And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
    Mar 5:6  But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
    Mat 28:17  And when they saw him, they worshipped him:
    Mat 15:25  Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
    Mat 14:33  Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
    Mat 8:2  And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him,.

    Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God (Theos).
    Joh 20:29  Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

    Jer 23:5  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6  In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD (Yhovah)OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

    Rev 2:23  And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

    Mar 2:28  Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
    Exo 20:10  But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:

    1Co 10:4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
    Deu 32:3  Because I will publish the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God.
    Deu 32:4  He is the Rock, his work is perfe
    ct: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
    1Sa 2:2  There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
    1Sa 2:2  There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
    Psa 78:35  And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.

    1Co 10:4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

    Exo 20:1  And God spake all these words, saying,
    Exo 20:2  I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
    1Co 10:2  And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
    1Co 10:4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

    2Ti 4:1  I charge thee therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

    Mal 3:6  For I am the LORD (yhovah), I change not;
    Heb 13:8  Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

    Exo 3:14  And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
    Joh 8:57  Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
    Joh 8:58  Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
    Joh 8:59  Then took they up stones to cast at him: (because Jesus claimed the name of God)

    Joh 10:9  I am the door:
    Joh 10:11  I am the good shepherd:
    Joh 11:25  … I am the resurrection,
    Joh 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
    Joh 14:10  Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?
    Joh 15:1  I am the true vine,

    Joh 5:17  But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
    Joh 5:18  Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

    Mat 1:23  Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
    Joh 14:1  Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

    Acts 7:59, “And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”

    Mat 23:24  Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.      :O

    #35120
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CB,
    Two Gods?
    Or even Three deities?

    Naah
    For us there is ONE God.

    #35367
    Cult Buster
    Participant

    NH

    Quote
    Hi CB,
    Two Gods?
    Or even Three deities?

    Naah
    For us there is ONE God.

    No NH. There are Three.

    Mat 28:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    Isaiah 6:3  says, “And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

    ” Did you catch that?  That's one “holy” for each person of the Godhead!

    Rev 4:8  And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

    All praise to God the Father… God the Son Jesus Christ… and God the Holy Spirit! ALL Three merit perfect praise. Holy, Holy, Holy! If there is only one God they would not have repeated the worshipful praise three times.
     

    Holy! Holy! Holy!
    :O  :O  :O

    #35369
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CB,
    Your religion is not of our God.
    Our God is ONE.

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