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Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:40) Hi Wakeup, It was done that way to keep people from using Scripture to promote their own agenda.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Only the pure hearted will be given true understanding,
according to measure.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,11:50) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:40) Hi Wakeup, It was done that way to keep people from using Scripture to promote their own agenda.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Only the pure hearted will be given true understanding,
according to measure.wakeup.
wnot so ,only to those who believe with a true heart ,
God as given the means but men as to come to grip with believing and trust him ,
Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Jn 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned
Quote (Wakeup @ June 15 2014,21:44) Marty. Jesus was from everlasting.
Isaiah 9:6
***For unto us a child is born***,
***unto us a son is given***:
***and the government shall be upon his shoulder***: ***and his name shall be called Wonderful***, ***Counsellor, The mighty God***,
***The everlasting Father***,
***The Prince of Peace***.The child is the mighty God and the everlasting Father.
And you say he was not before the earth was.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,It doesn't *HE SHALL BE CALLED* it instead says
“his NAME shall be called”
If you want, I can explain the difference for you.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 17 2014,13:26) Quote (Wakeup @ June 15 2014,21:44) Marty. Jesus was from everlasting.
Isaiah 9:6
***For unto us a child is born***,
***unto us a son is given***:
***and the government shall be upon his shoulder***: ***and his name shall be called Wonderful***, ***Counsellor, The mighty God***,
***The everlasting Father***,
***The Prince of Peace***.The child is the mighty God and the everlasting Father.
And you say he was not before the earth was.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,It doesn't *HE SHALL BE CALLED* it instead says
“his NAME shall be called”
If you want, I can explain the difference for you.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj.Stay on topic.
He is the everlasting Father,because He is God's image.
His spiritual state as a human is equal to the Father.
Yet in obedience to His Father.His God.His redeemer.He is THEWORDOFGOD.
Every Word spoken by God, is equal in power to God.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
Didn't think you were interested.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 17 2014,16:10) Hi Wakeup, Didn't think you were interested.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You can not see how the child was called;
**THE EVERLASTING FATHER; THE MIGHTY GOD**.*THE WORD WAS WITH GOD; AND THE WORD WAS GOD*.
**I PROCEEDED OUT OF THE FATHER**.There must be something wrong with the interpretation.
Lets go and find another bible where it does not say that,
to satisfy the soul.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
It's the Child's “NAME” that is called those things. The Child's name is “YA is Salvation”,
the mighty God (YHVH), the everlasting Father (YHVH), is where our salvation comes from!No need to joggle meanings, just understand what the text is saying.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 17 2014,18:05) Hi Wakeup, It's the Child's “NAME” that is called those things. The Child's name is “YA is Salvation”,
the mighty God (YHVH), the everlasting Father (YHVH), is where our salvation comes from!No need to joggle meanings, just understand what the text is saying.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
wakeup.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:
Isaiah 9 states:
Quote Isa 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.Isa 9:7
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform thisNotice how many times the word “shall is used in the scripture”. That means in the future. It is prophetic. It is now a reality.
You post the following scripture, and I fail to see what that has to do with what we are discussing:
Quote Matthew 12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him,
***Who is my mother***?
***and who are my brethren***?What he meant by this statement is that “those who do the will of God are his family”. Just because someone is his own flesh and blood does not mean that they are of the family of God.
Quote Mat 12:47
Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.Mat 12:48
But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?Mat 12:49
And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!Mat 12:50
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.And you say:
Quote Dont forget; this was God speaking.
He is telling us something;and that is the mystery that many
are not given to understand, but the few.I have shown you by the scriptures what he meant by the statement nothing more and nothing less.
And then this:
Quote No man knows the son nor the Father. Luke 10:22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and
***no man knoweth who the Son is***,
***but the Father***;
***and who the Father is, but the Son***,
***and he to whom the Son will reveal him***.That scripture does not state that “no man knows the Son nor the Father”.
It states that “No man knows the the Son but the Father, and no man knows the Father but the Son, and whosoever the Son chooses to reveal him.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ June 21 2014,10:11) Hi Wakeup: Isaiah 9 states:
Quote Isa 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.Isa 9:7
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform thisNotice how many times the word “shall is used in the scripture”. That means in the future. It is prophetic. It is now a reality.
You post the following scripture, and I fail to see what that has to do with what we are discussing:
Quote Matthew 12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him,
***Who is my mother***?
***and who are my brethren***?What he meant by this statement is that “those who do the will of God are his family”. Just because someone is his own flesh and blood does not mean that they are of the family of God.
Quote Mat 12:47
Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.Mat 12:48
But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?Mat 12:49
And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!Mat 12:50
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.And you say:
Quote Dont forget; this was God speaking.
He is telling us something;and that is the mystery that many
are not given to understand, but the few.I have shown you by the scriptures what he meant by the statement nothing more and nothing less.
And then this:
Quote No man knows the son nor the Father. Luke 10:22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and
***no man knoweth who the Son is***,
***but the Father***;
***and who the Father is, but the Son***,
***and he to whom the Son will reveal him***.That scripture does not state that “no man knows the Son nor the Father”.
It states that “No man knows the the Son but the Father, and no man knows the Father but the Son, and whosoever the Son chooses to reveal him.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.Only him who the son will reveal him; will know who the son
and the father is.
This is why all the confusion at present.
For the land is desolate.John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man
***shall give unto you***:
***for him hath God the Father sealed***.No massses of christians are sealed;only those whom seek after the food that endured unto everlasting life.
wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2014,18:05) Hi Wakeup, It's the Child's “NAME” that is called those things. The Child's name is “YA is Salvation”,
the mighty God (YHVH), the everlasting Father (YHVH), is where our salvation comes from!
No need to joggle meanings, just understand what the text is saying.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Wakeup, please respond to this post; OK?Hi Wakeup:
You say:
Quote Marty. Only him who the son will reveal him; will know who the son
and the father is.
This is why all the confusion at present.
For the land is desolate.John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man
***shall give unto you***:
***for him hath God the Father sealed***.No massses of christians are sealed;only those whom seek after the food that endured unto everlasting life.
The Son will reveal the Father to whosoever will believe the gospel and come to God with a repentant heart.
Love In Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ June 22 2014,07:50) Hi Wakeup: You say:
Quote Marty. Only him who the son will reveal him; will know who the son
and the father is.
This is why all the confusion at present.
For the land is desolate.John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man
***shall give unto you***:
***for him hath God the Father sealed***.No massses of christians are sealed;only those whom seek after the food that endured unto everlasting life.
The Son will reveal the Father to whosoever will believe the gospel and come to God with a repentant heart.
Love In Christ,
Marty
Marty.Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man
shall give unto you;for him had God the Father sealed.
This means God has sealed them who seek with all their hearts,and Jesus will give them understanding.God knew who they are,and had sealed them.
And Jesus will open their eyes.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2014,08:31) Quote (942767 @ June 22 2014,07:50) Hi Wakeup: You say:
Quote Marty. Only him who the son will reveal him; will know who the son
and the father is.
This is why all the confusion at present.
For the land is desolate.John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man
***shall give unto you***:
***for him hath God the Father sealed***.No massses of christians are sealed;only those whom seek after the food that endured unto everlasting life.
The Son will reveal the Father to whosoever will believe the gospel and come to God with a repentant heart.
Love In Christ,
Marty
Marty.Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man
shall give unto you;for him had God the Father sealed.
This means God has sealed them who seek with all their hearts,and Jesus will give them understanding.God knew who they are,and had sealed them.
And Jesus will open their eyes.wakeup.
Wakeup:Those people were following Jesus not because of what he was teaching, but because of the miracle of his feeding the people natural food, and Jesus is telling them that they should be following him not for that kind of food, but for the food that will give them eternal life, spiritual food, and he said that he alone is qualified to give them this spiritual food, because God has sealed him or ordained him to do so.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ June 22 2014,09:17) Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2014,08:31) Quote (942767 @ June 22 2014,07:50) Hi Wakeup: You say:
Quote Marty. Only him who the son will reveal him; will know who the son
and the father is.
This is why all the confusion at present.
For the land is desolate.John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man
***shall give unto you***:
***for him hath God the Father sealed***.No massses of christians are sealed;only those whom seek after the food that endured unto everlasting life.
The Son will reveal the Father to whosoever will believe the gospel and come to God with a repentant heart.
Love In Christ,
Marty
Marty.Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man
shall give unto you;for him had God the Father sealed.
This means God has sealed them who seek with all their hearts,and Jesus will give them understanding.God knew who they are,and had sealed them.
And Jesus will open their eyes.wakeup.
Wakeup:Those people were following Jesus not because of what he was teaching, but because of the miracle of his feeding the people natural food, and Jesus is telling them that they should be following him not for that kind of food, but for the food that will give them eternal life, spiritual food, and he said that he alone is qualified to give them this spiritual food, because God has sealed him or ordained him to do so.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.Christ will only feed them that are sealed by His Father.
And those are them that feed on the food that does not perish.
Many believe and many read, but the hunger for the deep things of God is not there. No one can fool God with lip service. This is what's happening amongst christians.Praising God and back stabbing with the same mouth.
Claiming to be in Zion, but the heart and spirit is in babylon, desiring all her delicacies.This is going after food that perish.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2014,14:11) Quote (942767 @ June 22 2014,09:17) Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2014,08:31) Quote (942767 @ June 22 2014,07:50) Hi Wakeup: You say:
Quote Marty. Only him who the son will reveal him; will know who the son
and the father is.
This is why all the confusion at present.
For the land is desolate.John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man
***shall give unto you***:
***for him hath God the Father sealed***.No massses of christians are sealed;only those whom seek after the food that endured unto everlasting life.
The Son will reveal the Father to whosoever will believe the gospel and come to God with a repentant heart.
Love In Christ,
Marty
Marty.Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man
shall give unto you;for him had God the Father sealed.
This means God has sealed them who seek with all their hearts,and Jesus will give them understanding.God knew who they are,and had sealed them.
And Jesus will open their eyes.wakeup.
Wakeup:Those people were following Jesus not because of what he was teaching, but because of the miracle of his feeding the people natural food, and Jesus is telling them that they should be following him not for that kind of food, but for the food that will give them eternal life, spiritual food, and he said that he alone is qualified to give them this spiritual food, because God has sealed him or ordained him to do so.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.Christ will only feed them that are sealed by His Father.
And those are them that feed on the food that does not perish.
Many believe and many read, but the hunger for the deep things of God is not there. No one can fool God with lip service. This is what's happening amongst christians.Praising God and back stabbing with the same mouth.
Claiming to be in Zion, but the heart and spirit is in babylon, desiring all her delicacies.This is going after food that perish.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:I am not the judge and neither are you. I do not know the motives and the intents of anyone's heart.
But the Apostle Paul stated this:
Quote Gal 6:7
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.And the scriptures state:
Quote 1Co 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.And so, if someone is not born again, they cannot totally comprehend the Word of God because it does not make sense to them.
And:
Quote Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?Mat 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.Love in Christ,
MartyMarty.
I stick to what the scriptures say.
John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man
***shall give unto you***:*****for him hath God the Father sealed*****.
Two working in the field; one will be taken and the other left.
You can interpret it the way you like.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 23 2014,08:57) Marty. I stick to what the scriptures say.
John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man
***shall give unto you***:*****for him hath God the Father sealed*****.
Two working in the field; one will be taken and the other left.
You can interpret it the way you like.
wakeup.
Good for you, Wakeup, then what scripture states that “the Word was an adult in heaven or that he was the creator?The scripture states that it is Jesus who was sealed to teach the Word of God, and so, it is what he has taught that I am studying and sharing with others, not my personal opinions.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ June 23 2014,09:38) Quote (Wakeup @ June 23 2014,08:57) Marty. I stick to what the scriptures say.
John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man
***shall give unto you***:*****for him hath God the Father sealed*****.
Two working in the field; one will be taken and the other left.
You can interpret it the way you like.
wakeup.
Good for you, Wakeup, then what scripture states that “the Word was an adult in heaven or that he was the creator?The scripture states that it is Jesus who was sealed to teach the Word of God, and so, it is what he has taught that I am studying and sharing with others, not my personal opinions.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.That scripture is not about Jesus,for He is the head
of the church. He does not need sealing,He does the feeding.
That was about them that seek after food that does not perish. Because God had sealed them.wakeup.
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