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John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Ed
The knowledge does not come from Wakeup. This you fail to understand.
Psalms 50:23 Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I shew the salvation of God.
Hi Journey42,
It most certainly is the answer. ‘Religion’ is where the doctrine of the word being Jesus came from. Did you not know this?
Ed
All of a sudden “the Word” who became Jesus has a cult following?
I’m in that cult then!Ed
The knowledge does not come from Wakeup. This you fail to understand.
Hi Journey42,
Yea I know, a lot of it comes from religious brainwashing.
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODEd
All of a sudden “the Word” who became Jesus has a cult following?
I’m in that cult then!Hi Journey42,
I thought Wakeup was your teacher? And No, that not what I’m saying.
Read Col.2:20-22 and perchance you may get it, but if not feel free to ask.___________
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODEdj.
First you must understand what you read.
Christ was not of the world; we need to be dead from the world in Christ. Separate yourself from the rudiments of the world. (come out of Babylon).Judge by the scriptures; provide scriptures to proof some ones is in error. Don’t use doctrine of the world given to you.
The word written in scripture is truth. Rudiments of the world is confusion.(babel).wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
I do provide scriptures as proof of this error; but you reject the evidence, because you won’t let go of the traditions of men.
”“The Word” which ye hear is not mine” (John 14:24)
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODEd,
(1)Don’t you find it strange that God said there is no saviour besides himself, ((2)so where does Christ fit?)
(3)He also said he alone created everything by himself, ((4)so where does Christ fit again? because everything was made through him, for him) (5)Is he invisible? (6)Did God not know he was there?
(7)Then he says, lets make in our image (was he alone or not?)The topic is showing a contradiction in the scriptures and you need to explain why it is so.
Journey42,
1) No, not at all; why, do you?
2) Jesus’ name means “YA’s Salvation”
3) Because he did created everything by himself
4) Christ’s death on the cross provided God with the means
5) Who?
6) Huh? What??
7) He was with the Angels. (ref. Job 38:4-7)Q. Have not noticed that Angels (when they appear) look just like us.
Ed
Compare;
1) Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.Isaiah 43:11I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
2) That doesn’t answer the question. Where does Christ fit?
John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
3) Explain the us then.
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
4) What means? It does not answer the contradiction.
5) Christ. I mentioned him just before this. Who else would I be referring to?
6) Answer the question please. How could Christ be there creating everything alongside with God, if God said he did it on his own?
7) The angels do not create. They are created beings. If they created us, then they would be gods.Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Hi Journey42,
You want an explanation, OK you got it.
Before the world was there was no Christ only God.
“The spirit of Christ” came out from God, and was in Moses
as Moses lead the children of Israel out of the house of bondage.The very verse you quote is the evidence of what I’m suggesting to you.
I’ll highlight the parts so that you won’t overlook them“And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self
with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.” (John 17:5)I’ll spell it out again for you in case you still don’t get it.
He had glory with the Father – because he was *IN* The Father.___________
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODHi Journey42,
I realize it is probably still hard for you to understand, so I’ll give you another verse, OK?
“For verily he took not on him
the nature of(NO) “THE FORM OF” angels;
but he took on him the seed of Abraham.” (Heb 2:16)Who is the “HE” here? Christ of course, right?
So Christ DID NOT become the first Angel God created (as some are suggesting) according to that verse.
But the same verse suggests more…The spirit of Christ went straight from being part of God – bypassed becoming an Angel –
– and went straight to becoming a spirit in God’s Prophets – the seed of Abraham.___________
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GOD“Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren,
that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God,
to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.” (Heb 2:17)Edj.
That scripture does not proof the topic we are about.
Why is God alone, and then He is not?
Was He playing a game?wakeup.
No Game,
As I told you in two posts up
God sent the spirit of Christ out of himself to inhabit the Prophets of God – the seed of Abraham.God was not alone before sending Christ from within himself, he had the Angels with him.
The Son has been a personality in eternity, HE created this world, he is the Father of his creation, He has a Father, the Universal Father. Having fulfilled all the requirements of the Universal Father, the creator Son now has all power and authority in heaven and on earth. Christ Michael is our Lord and God now and forever. As the spiritual gravity circuit or channel of the Universal Father, we will pass through the Son on our way to the Universal Father on Paradise.
Ed
This is I have the edge over you. I know Wakeup personally, and can vouch he has never been taught or involved in any religion.
Wern’t you taught by someone involved in religion? I’d love to hear your story again.
Didn’t you ask Nick not long ago about going to a church to get baptised?
Isn’t that seeking religion?Wakup up is guiding us to go straight to the book. Not good to accuse him of being indoctrinated by religion.
Religion makes you drunk. You’d have to convert to their beliefs and not question, or else you’d be booted out.
You have to go straight to the source Ed,
that’s where the food is.Ed,
(1)How can God have an offspring before his son is born?
(2)God does not give birth, (3)he just creates,
(4)the son was never a creature, or an offspring before his birth.Journey42,
1) Jesus was God’s offspring – EVEN WHILE IN THE WOMB OF MARY.
2) No, Mary did.
3) Jesus is God’s only-begotten Son.
4) There was no Jesus before his conception – only God (and the angels).Jesus came out from God e.i. a fractal of God was implanted into Mary.
!) Yes but we are talking about before he was in the womb. In the beginning.
2) So how can God have a son before the son is made in the womb?
3) Yes
4) So who was with God then at creation?God was Jesus’ Father and Mary his mother. So simple to understand.
Yet the flesh mind has trouble understanding the things of God.Matthew 12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
Ed
This is I have the edge over you. I know Wakeup personally, and can vouch he has never been taught or involved in any religion.
Wern’t you taught by someone involved in religion? I’d love to hear your story again.
Didn’t you ask Nick not long ago about going to a church to get baptised?
Isn’t that seeking religion?Wakup up is guiding us to go straight to the book. Not good to accuse him of being indoctrinated by religion.
Religion makes you drunk. You’d have to convert to their beliefs and not question, or else you’d be booted out.
You have to go straight to the source Ed,
that’s where the food is.Hi Journey42,
I’ve learned the theology of all these religious groups over the years:
Baptist, Pentecostal, Methodist, Presbyterian, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Non-Denominational-bible Church.But you are missing the point, which is: the collective “YOU” have adopted erroneous religious doctrines.
You didn’t learn God’s Son as the word idea from reading Scripture, but because religion taught you it.
You didn’t learn the 666 chip idea from reading Scripture, but because religion has taught it to you.It’s amazing just how much bible verse adjusting has to be done when one adopts the God’s Son as the word idea.
Meaning ideas expressed in different parts of the bible must be relabeled or changed to fit their theology package.___________
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODDidn’t you ask Nick not long ago about going to a church to get baptised?
Isn’t that seeking religion?No, it’s appeasing Nick’s concern for me as a Christian Brother.
Why, did you think something else was going on here?Journey42,
4) There was no Jesus before his conception – only God (and the angels).
Hi Journey42,
Sorry, point #4 seems to be saying something I didn’t intend to say. Namely…
The bible clearly indicates the spirit of Christ existed before his conception into Mary.
Again, sorry 🙁
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODHi Journey42,
Q. Who was with God at creation?
A. The Angels___________
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODHi Journey42,
You want an explanation, OK you got it.
Before the world was there was no Christ only God.
Hi Ed
This is good.“The spirit of Christ” came out from God, and was in Moses
as Moses lead the children of Israel out of the house of bondage.But Christ did not exist yet. There was only God.
You are missing the key word Ed.
What came out from God?The spirit of Christ went into Moses? You mean the spirit of God. You are making him sound like Jesus.
Moses was led by the spirit, and God performed his miracles for him.
Moses obeyed the voice of God.The very verse you quote is the evidence of what I’m suggesting to you.
I’ll highlight the parts so that you won’t overlook them“And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self
with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.” (John 17:5)I’ll spell it out again for you in case you still don’t get it.
He had glory with the Father – because he was *IN* The Father.I get it alright, and you are three quarters there,
but you are not accurate in explaining it.
You are still missing the key word Ed.There was a time when “he” came out of the Father,
So what is the “us” then, and the “our”
“Let us create man in our own image”
The key word Ed?Hi Journey42,
I’ve learned the theology of all these religious groups over the years:
Baptist, Pentecostal, Methodist, Presbyterian, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Non-Denominational-bible Church.But you are missing the point, which is: the collective “YOU” have adopted erroneous religious doctrines.
Ed
How can one adopt religious doctrines if they were never taught by them?
You mean I must believe a few things in common with their doctrine right?
Coincidence maybe?
All christian religions have some things in common. Plenty actually. This is a fact.
And plenty not in common too.You didn’t learn God’s Son as the word idea from reading Scripture, but because religion taught you it.
This is where you are wrong.
You didn’t learn the 666 chip idea from reading Scripture, but because religion has taught it to you.
Wrong again. The mark of the beast was revealed before my very eyes in Revelations. I always knew there would be a mark, I just didn’t know the fine details.
Religion did not teach me that the chip was the mark. The news did. I just put two and two together Ed.It’s amazing just how much bible verse adjusting has to be done when one adopts the God’s Son as the word idea.
Meaning ideas expressed in different parts of the bible must be relabeled or changed to fit their theology package.Ok, it’s amazing that you still cannot see it.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us……
So clear Ed, what has been adjusted?
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