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Quote the scientist took a frog on his desk and open a note book,then he hit the top of the desk and at the same time he said jump and the frog jumped,so he writes ;frog four legs ,jumps,then he pull off a leg from the frog and repeat this it ;hit the desk and say jump,when he came to the fourth leg ,he says has he hit the desk jump,but the frog could not jump any longer(he had no more leggs) so he writes down ;FROG NO LEGGS HIS DEAF, ………….being the case
Two men are standing side by side, the one man points to the moon and admires the beauty of it, the other is looking at the mans pointing finger wondering what all the fuss is about.
Quote (Stu @ Dec. 01 2011,20:36) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 01 2011,07:24) Quote (Stu @ Nov. 30 2011,18:29) That was t8’s bizarre analogy, not mine.
Incorrect.Many Atheists believe that everything came from nothing, hence no God.
I simply am asking how to demonstrate how starting with 0 you can end up with 1, 2, 3…
And BTW, you have failed of course.
Show me the math, otherwise no proof.
You deny God and that leaves you with Gravity or Nothing.
Could you describe the Gravity Theory again.
Please start from the beginning because we probably have no debate with gravity thereafter.I will start it for you to give you a hand.
In the beginning was Gravity….
Please complete. Thanks.
I have absolutely no idea what you are wittering on about t8. What exactly are you asking for? Maths? Numerology (perhaps you could try Ed)? An explanation for the appearance of matter and energy? An explanation for the inflation of space-time?I don't think you know enough even to ask those questions.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,I believe his question is give us your take on big bang cosmology.
Ours is: Int the beginning “God” created the heavens and the earth.
What's your starting point, nothing? How does nothing create anything?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (princess @ Dec. 04 2011,20:33) Prince, I do not see how T can tell you that you are your own god, then that would mean that you are imagining yourself. Which by all accounts would be taking nothing and turning it into something. Good show !!
Miss you much, hope you are well.
Princess
Hi princessIt is symple if you have no master then you are your own master so to speak,
Pierre
Quote (princess @ Dec. 04 2011,20:40) Quote the scientist took a frog on his desk and open a note book,then he hit the top of the desk and at the same time he said jump and the frog jumped,so he writes ;frog four legs ,jumps,then he pull off a leg from the frog and repeat this it ;hit the desk and say jump,when he came to the fourth leg ,he says has he hit the desk jump,but the frog could not jump any longer(he had no more leggs) so he writes down ;FROG NO LEGGS HIS DEAF, ………….being the case
Two men are standing side by side, the one man points to the moon and admires the beauty of it, the other is looking at the mans pointing finger wondering what all the fuss is about.
Hi princessThis is not equal to what I have said,story I mean,
Think
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2011,03:32) Stu Then you are your own god ,enjoy while it last,
Pierre
I've never understood that platitude. What is it supposed to mean?Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Dec. 05 2011,02:07) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2011,03:32) Stu Then you are your own god ,enjoy while it last,
Pierre
I've never understood that platitude. What is it supposed to mean?Stuart
stuOK, tell me to whom do you submit your self ?
what is it that runs your live ,like rules,philosophy you follow,
what are your don'ts and do's ?
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 05 2011,11:29) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 05 2011,02:07) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2011,03:32) Stu Then you are your own god ,enjoy while it last,
Pierre
I've never understood that platitude. What is it supposed to mean?Stuart
stuOK, tell me to whom do you submit your self ?
what is it that runs your live ,like rules,philosophy you follow,
what are your don'ts and do's ?
Pierre
It could take a while to think of, and go through my ethics!You can probably gauge my worldview from what I have posted here, although I don't expect you necessarily to understand it.
But I don't “submit” to anyone. I am not owned by anyone, that would be slavery. Why should anyone volunteer for that?
Stuart
stu
Quote It could take a while to think of, and go through my ethics! no need for details;just give 3 or 4 lines like ;;what do you love ?
what do you hate ?what do you hope for ?
what is your reason to live ?Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,09:49) stu Quote It could take a while to think of, and go through my ethics! no need for details;just give 3 or 4 lines like ;;what do you love ?
what do you hate ?what do you hope for ?
what is your reason to live ?Pierre
A few lines? Good grief.Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Dec. 06 2011,21:18) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,09:49) stu Quote It could take a while to think of, and go through my ethics! no need for details;just give 3 or 4 lines like ;;what do you love ?
what do you hate ?what do you hope for ?
what is your reason to live ?Pierre
A few lines? Good grief.Stuart
StuWell ?
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,17:52) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 06 2011,21:18) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,09:49) stu Quote It could take a while to think of, and go through my ethics! no need for details;just give 3 or 4 lines like ;;what do you love ?
what do you hate ?what do you hope for ?
what is your reason to live ?Pierre
A few lines? Good grief.Stuart
StuWell ?
Indeed. Well what?Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Dec. 07 2011,03:14) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,17:52) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 06 2011,21:18) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,09:49) stu Quote It could take a while to think of, and go through my ethics! no need for details;just give 3 or 4 lines like ;;what do you love ?
what do you hate ?what do you hope for ?
what is your reason to live ?Pierre
A few lines? Good grief.Stuart
StuWell ?
Indeed. Well what?Stuart
stuyou are a god to your self
this means you run your live as you see fit ,and believe in yourself as the one capable to do it
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,04:33) you are a god to your self this means you run your live as you see fit ,and believe in yourself as the one capable to do it
I wouldn't know what a god is, in order to judge whether I was making myself into one.I do run my life as I see fit, as do you. I do see myself capable of doing that. But then you do the same, I hope.
Otherwise what of your concept of free will?
You chose to adopt Judeo-christian mythology as your version of the god delusion, so you are definitely running your own life.
What would be wrong with any of that? Do you desire to be a slave?
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Dec. 07 2011,21:56) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,04:33) you are a god to your self this means you run your live as you see fit ,and believe in yourself as the one capable to do it
I wouldn't know what a god is, in order to judge whether I was making myself into one.I do run my life as I see fit, as do you. I do see myself capable of doing that. But then you do the same, I hope.
Otherwise what of your concept of free will?
You chose to adopt Judeo-christian mythology as your version of the god delusion, so you are definitely running your own life.
What would be wrong with any of that? Do you desire to be a slave?
Stuart
stufirst freewill is only true in our choices in live according to our nature,like we have no wings we cant fly ,
but for being a god I believe we all men are gods ,above all beast ,
but not what is above us,
yes I do that ,most of us run their lives as they see fit ;but always bassed on our knowledge aquired at the time of decissions are made or taken;
i always ask my self why is it some people believe in God and some others do not ?
do you know why it is this way ??would it be that one is stupid and not the other one ??
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,15:19) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 07 2011,21:56) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,04:33) you are a god to your self this means you run your live as you see fit ,and believe in yourself as the one capable to do it
I wouldn't know what a god is, in order to judge whether I was making myself into one.I do run my life as I see fit, as do you. I do see myself capable of doing that. But then you do the same, I hope.
Otherwise what of your concept of free will?
You chose to adopt Judeo-christian mythology as your version of the god delusion, so you are definitely running your own life.
What would be wrong with any of that? Do you desire to be a slave?
Stuart
stufirst freewill is only true in our choices in live according to our nature,like we have no wings we cant fly ,
but for being a god I believe we all men are gods ,above all beast ,
but not what is above us,
yes I do that ,most of us run their lives as they see fit ;but always bassed on our knowledge aquired at the time of decissions are made or taken;
i always ask my self why is it some people believe in God and some others do not ?
do you know why it is this way ??would it be that one is stupid and not the other one ??
Pierre
There is good evidence that there is a significant genetic component. Separated twin studies show that if one twin has a tendency to particularly devout religious belief, it will be present in the other twin also.That is consistent with god belief having an adaptive advantage for humans living in tribes. If the tribal leader can unite the tribe and get them to put the common good ahead of individual egos, their survival will be enhanced. Appeal to the rewards and punishments of a “higher power” must be believed to be effective, and hence a genetic component that has been favoured by natural selection.
There are other suggested mechanisms, like the trust that very young children have for what adults tell them to do. It is critical to their survival, and the survival of our species, that young children follow their parents' instructions. An adult that has acquired and/or cultivated a god belief will pass that god idea on to a receptive child, rather like the child catching a cold easily due to reduced immunity.
And if you have the stomach for it, there is Freud. He claimed that a god is a father substitute.
I agree that it is an interesting question. It will continue to be interesting, because I think we are witnessing the time when the tribal advantage of slave-think is becoming a liability in the new global situation.
Stuart
Stu
Yes Freud is right ,and agree with him on that,
But like many things knowledge is essential to reach beyon childhood ,I am 71 years old and have seen the end of ww2 the boom years that followed it was bright and many were happy but then came the 60 ths and things start to change ,and then came more changes then Russia falls I mean the wall and many dictators sins then,and the drug trade on a global scale ,it seems that their is a revolution not a evolution going on on the globe,let's not forget wall street scandals ,it seems now that all things are done on a global scale,and it is not in the direction of improvement,well for a few of cause it will but for all others won't be that easy.
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,16:05) Stu Yes Freud is right ,and agree with him on that,
But like many things knowledge is essential to reach beyon childhood ,I am 71 years old and have seen the end of ww2 the boom years that followed it was bright and many were happy but then came the 60 ths and things start to change ,and then came more changes then Russia falls I mean the wall and many dictators sins then,and the drug trade on a global scale ,it seems that their is a revolution not a evolution going on on the globe,let's not forget wall street scandals ,it seems now that all things are done on a global scale,and it is not in the direction of improvement,well for a few of cause it will but for all others won't be that easy.
Pierre
You might find this talk interesting:Stuart
stu
yes it was very interesting,but 19 minutes does not cover all.
he did not say how many Honest people living now on earth ,and that are in Governmental position ,ect
and the arms race that can obliterate the planet living beings
and the hardships created by those sociopath in the world of government and business ,banking,ect
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,20:36) stu yes it was very interesting,but 19 minutes does not cover all.
he did not say how many Honest people living now on earth ,and that are in Governmental position ,ect
and the arms race that can obliterate the planet living beings
and the hardships created by those sociopath in the world of government and business ,banking,ect
Pierre
No, he was talking about the ongoing decrease in violence. I don't think his talk was meant to cover everything.Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2011,02:44) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,20:36) stu yes it was very interesting,but 19 minutes does not cover all.
he did not say how many Honest people living now on earth ,and that are in Governmental position ,ect
and the arms race that can obliterate the planet living beings
and the hardships created by those sociopath in the world of government and business ,banking,ect
Pierre
No, he was talking about the ongoing decrease in violence. I don't think his talk was meant to cover everything.Stuart
stuI for that reason put in dough his data ;it seems that men every were more and more become opportunistic , look what happen in many disasters and because of the hardship , crimes are committing,
Pierre
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