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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2008,06:30) Logic is of man and his dim view of life.
In the immortality thread Nick wrote:Quote Hi and welcome Vel,
What could be worse than being locked in this tent?Who has a dim view of life?
Stuart
HiStu,
Only in comparison with the hope of promise.2Cor4
7But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.8We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
9Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
10Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
2Cor5
1For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.2For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
3If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
4For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
5Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.
6Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
7(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
8We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
Castles in the air and pie in the sky are what you have to offer. The greeks actually devised ways of helping their fellow humans to understand the world and their places in it. You just suggest that everyone joins you in a miserable 1950s doctor's waiting room until you're called through. You miss out the bit about possibly being wrong, in which case your approach is nihilism with god-slavery added.
Stuart
Hi Stu,
Logic also offers us self justification and rationalisations, both forms of lies.
Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2008,16:23) Hi Stu,
Logic also offers us self justification and rationalisations, both forms of lies.
Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Deu 6:5 “You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart[/color and with all your soul and with all your might.How can we love God with such a wicked and deceitful heart? Hmmm…
Quote (kejonn @ Mar. 28 2008,19:35) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2008,16:23) Hi Stu,
Logic also offers us self justification and rationalisations, both forms of lies.
Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Deu 6:5 “You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.How can we love God with such a wicked and deceitful heart? Hmmm…
Wanted to get the tag right
.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2008,09:23) Hi Stu,
Logic also offers us self justification and rationalisations, both forms of lies.
Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
I think the same when I read christian apologia.Stuart
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2008,16:15) Hi KJ,
Why do you laugh?
Have you lost your hope?
It is with your map and compass.
He is looking though the waiting room windows at you sitting there waiting,full of spite for humanity, while he is frolicking in the sunshine with his fellow humans!I don't think I would want to follow your grey map and compass that only ever points in one direction.
Stuart
Hi Stu,
Not so.
You imagine spite-could it be your paranoia?
Children frolic but adults often ponder deeper and more important things.Proverbs 28:19
He who tills his land will have plenty of food,But he who follows empty pursuits will have poverty in plenty.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2008,17:00) Hi Stu,
Not so.
You imagine spite-could it be your paranoia?
Children frolic but adults often ponder deeper and more important things.Proverbs 28:19
He who tills his land will have plenty of food,But he who follows empty pursuits will have poverty in plenty.
You are the one who question the value of a long stay in 'this tent'. Is it paranoia if you have evidence?Your proverb quote is so apt for comparing the farmer with the clergyman!
Televangelists on the other hand till their land mercilessly and with little compunction. They do not suffer poverty.
Stuart
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 27 2007,20:46) I say no. But if the Greeks stumbled across a truth, then of course we don't throw it away because it is Greek philosophy, but because it is true.
Hi t8This is a bit of a Freudian slip!
I'm sure you didn't mean to write that.
If you accept modern medicine you accept greek philosophy. The development of modern science and modern medicine came from a philisophical approach that was passed to us via the Enlightenment, which rolled back the christian-dominated dark and medieval ages and reestablished the principles of empiricism and rationalism from the early Greeks. I don't have much time for the view that you can expunge parts of history that don't agree with your worldview. How can you know for sure the relative importance of each aspect of greek philosophy to the modern advantages we have as a result of it?
Stuart
Hi Stu,
God sends rain to the good and the evil alike.
Medicine is his mercy
Matthew 9:12
But when Jesus heard this, He said, “It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick.
Mark 2:17
And hearing this, Jesus said to them, ” It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick; I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”oops
Mark 5:26
and had endured much at the hands of many physicians, and had spent all that she had and was not helped at all, but rather had grown worse–Nick you give credit for medicine to a being for which there is no evidence. I give the credit to those who used evidence to develop the medicine. The greeks deserve the original credit, along with some who followed islam. Sadly christianity was a philosophical backwater for a long time because of the christian doctrines.
Stuart
Hi Stu,
Though I choke on the words
You are the evidence of a Creator God.
No number of bananas could make an ape as clever as you.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2008,20:16) Hi Stu,
Though I choke on the words
You are the evidence of a Creator God.
No number of bananas could make an ape as clever as you.
That's average poetry and abysmal science.Stuart
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2008,20:45) Hi Stu,
Not particularly you of course.
If you have a proper theory of creation to rival evolution by natural selection then post it in the appropriate thread.You know we will be happy to critique it for you!
Stuart
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