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Thanks Nick.
I'll add “Sheol” to my list of studies. My list is growing every day. I'm a bit overwhelmed. I want to know it all – RIGHT NOW!
Quote Sheol seems to a place in the earth.
It is the grave, the pit, the common grave of mankind.Nick, on the last page you have 5 posts that only say topical.
Yet, not a lot of responses.Quote (david @ June 10 2008,17:39) Quote Sheol seems to a place in the earth.
It is the grave, the pit, the common grave of mankind.Nick, on the last page you have 5 posts that only say topical.
Yet, not a lot of responses.
DittoHades and Sheol= same place of non-existence
Tartarus= a place of dense SPIRITUAL darkness
Gehenna= a place of everlasting cutting from which there is NO resurrection. Simply put the place the EVERLASTING death
Hi DK,
Strange that Scripture would spend so many pages telling us about a place of NON EXISTENCE.
I have seen no common grave for men david.Hi,
65 scriptures.If when we physically die and our spirit returns to God and the body rots
unless the essence of God remains in us as soul we vanish.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2008,06:36) Hi DK,
Strange that Scripture would spend so many pages telling us about a place of NON EXISTENCE.
I have seen no common grave for men david.
Strange indeed…But as all “all scripture is inspired…for setting things straight”
God knew that humans naturally were inquisitive about what happens when we die…also there were a lot of pagan teachings floating around about the “soul”..
He simply made sure that we were clearly able to see that nothing happened immediately after we died
Hi,
So scripture speaks of a place that is below.
Deuteronomy 32:22
For a fire is kindled in My anger,And burns to the lowest part of Sheol, And consumes the earth with its yield,And sets on fire the foundations of the mountains.
Amos 9:2
“Though they dig into Sheol,From there will My hand take them;And though they ascend to heaven,From there will I bring them down.God alone can raise men from there.
1 Samuel 2:6
” The LORD kills and makes alive; He brings down to Sheol and raises up.It is the home of the souls of natural men but could not hold Christ or us.
Psalm 16:10
For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol;Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay.
Psalm 49:15
But God will redeem my soul from the power of Sheol,For He will receive me. SelahIt has gates.
Isaiah 38:10
I said, ” In the middle of my lifeI am to enter the gates of Sheol;I am to be deprived of the rest of my years.”It can enlarge
Habakkuk 2:5
“Furthermore, wine betrays the haughty man,So that he does not stay at home He enlarges his appetite like Sheol,And he is like death, never satisfied.He also gathers to himself all nationsAnd collects to himself all peoples.Hi,
DEATH seems to be another name for Sheol.Psalm 49:14
As sheep they are appointed for Sheol;Death shall be their shepherd;And the upright shall rule over them in the morning,And their form shall be for Sheol to consumeSo that they have no habitation.Proverbs 5:5
Her feet go down to death,Her steps take hold of Sheol.
Isaiah 38:18“For Sheol cannot thank You,Death cannot praise You;Those who go down to the pit cannot hope for Your faithfulness.
Hosea 13:14
Shall I ransom them from the power of Sheol?Shall I redeem them from death? O Death, where are your thorns?O Sheol, where is your sting? Compassion will be hidden from My sight.Perhaps this is the DEATH that joins HADES in the lake of fire?
1 Kings 2:10 (nwt)- 10 Then David lay down with his forefathers and was buried in the City of David.
So was David in Sheol? , on the day of Pentecost 33 C.E., the apostle Peter referred to David’s death and quoted Psalm 16:10: “You will not leave my soul in Sheol.” After mentioning that David was still in his tomb, Peter applied those words to Jesus and indicated that David “saw beforehand and spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that neither was he forsaken in Hades nor did his flesh see corruption. This Jesus God resurrected, of which fact we are all witnesses.” (Acts 2:29-32) Peter here used the word “Hades,” the Greek counterpart of the Hebrew word “Sheol.”
Thus, those said to be in Hades are in the same situation as those said to be in Sheol. They are sleeping, awaiting a resurrection
Quote Hi,
DEATH seems to be another name for Sheol.Obviously, they are similar. When one dies, he goes to sheol.
There are scriptures in the Hebrew scriptures where sheol (hell) is mentioned and they are quoted in the Greek scriptures as hades (hell).
This would indicate that either some who wrote the Greek scriptures were confused, or hades and sheol are the same thing.
In Revelation we're told that “death AND Ha′des were hurled into the lake of fire.”
This indicates they aren't the same thing, does it not?Quote (david @ June 12 2008,12:10) Quote Hi,
DEATH seems to be another name for Sheol.Obviously, they are similar. When one dies, he goes to sheol.
There are scriptures in the Hebrew scriptures where sheol (hell) is mentioned and they are quoted in the Greek scriptures as hades (hell).
This would indicate that either some who wrote the Greek scriptures were confused, or hades and sheol are the same thing.
In Revelation we're told that “death AND Ha′des were hurled into the lake of fire.”
This indicates they aren't the same thing, does it not?
Amen…see my last post for a concurrenceHi,
KJV is not good on this.
Where NASB is consistent KJV usesPit Gen 37.35
Grave Num16.33
Hell Jb11.8 even 'deepest hell' [Ps86.14]Quote Hi,
KJV is not good on this.
Where NASB is consistent KJV usesPit Gen 37.35
Grave Num16.33
Hell Jb11.8 even 'deepest hell' [Ps86.14]Right, it's not a good study translation. Because the word sheol is sometimes translated as pit and sometimes as grave and sometimes as hell, when people reading that Bible see “hell,” they don't connect it to the grave, or the pit, yet, they are the same word.
Thanks for that.
Here is the definition of Sheol;
SHEOL
From Wikipedia,:
Sheol (pronounced “Sheh-ole”)[1], in Hebrew שאול (Sh'ol), is the “abode of the dead”, the “underworld”, “the common grave of humankind” or “pit”.[2] Sheol is the common destination of both the righteous and the unrighteous dead, as recounted in Ecclesiastes and Job.Sheol is sometimes compared to Hades, the gloomy, twilight afterlife of Greek mythology. The word “hades” was in fact substituted for “sheol” when the Hebrew scriptures were translated into Greek (see Septuagint). The New Testament (written in Greek) also uses “hades” to refer to the abode of the dead.
By the second century BC, Jews who accepted the Oral Torah had come to believe that those in sheol awaited the resurrection either in comfort (in the bosom of Abraham) or in torment. This belief is reflected in Jesus' story of Lazarus and Dives. At that time Jews who rejected the Oral Torah believed that Sheol meant simply the grave.
Anglicans, who do not share a concept of “hades” with the Eastern Orthodox, have traditionally translated “sheol” (and “hades”) as “hell” (for example in the King James Version). However, to avoid confusion of what are separate concepts in the Bible, modern English versions of the Bible tend either to transliterate the word sheol or to use an alternative term such as the “grave” (e.g. the NIV). Roman Catholics generally translate “sheol” as “death.”
Please share your views on this. I believe Sheol(Hades) is a place of death, but is it a being to be cast out into lake of fire as mentioned in Rev 20:14?
Thanks
Adamhi GM,
Jesus is truth and not influenced by customs or cultures but only the Spirit of God.
Hades was described by Jesus in Lk16 and it is to be cast into the lake of fire.
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