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  • #207302
    Ed J
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    Hi Everyone,

    Most people understand The Bible with the understanding of a man. (Isaiah 55:7-11)
    “The Bible” is best understood in much the same way “Optics” are understood.
    What I mean is: “The Bible” must be understood as “a whole”, Gen. to Rev.

    But how is this done? Let us use “Optics” as a comparative example; OK?
    The closer you look at something, the less that can be seen in the field of view.
    And likewise, the focus of detail is lost with the greater field of view. I hope you are
    getting all this? This is quite a conundrum, as you can only read one Bible verse at a time.

    Consider what it would take to make a map without the advent of aerial photography?
    First you must understand each and every section of terrain. And then fit all sections
    of terrain by scale into their respective positions. Scale is imperative to the whole.
    But in order to fit all the sections by scale into the whole, “The Big Picture” has
    to be clearly understood in the mapmakers mind; then all the pieces will fit!

    When beginners start to read The Scriptures they don’t understand what
    “God” wants them to, because of what the ‘systems of religion’ taught them.
    If they have been baptized with The “HolySpirit” and are open to His teachings,
    then they will be like a skilled mapmaker understanding the terrain of God’s Word!

    Looking forward to your responses!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #207303
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Everyone,

    Staying on track can easily done be by following
    the advice of Jesus Christ(יהשוע המשיח) and his Father(יהוה האלהים)

    YÄ-shü-ă hä Mäh-shē-äkh(Joshua Messiah) said:
    Love your neighbor as yourself! (Matt.5:44-48)
                                                      (Luke 10:29-37)  

    YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm(JEHOVAH GOD) said:
    Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
    But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou
    shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
                                                                                      (Gen.2:16-17 / Ezek.18:4)

    When other Christians tell you views outside of your realm of
    understanding, don't be so quick to dismiss them (Proverbs 18:13).
    Luke 18:17 “Verily I(Jesus) say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive
    the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.” “Grieve
    not the HolySpirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.”
                                                                                                                       (Eph.4:30)

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #207304
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Everyone,

    We might not fully understand “The Big Picture” all at once,
    But by staying on track and praying the The HolySpirit will
    open up to you “Bible Truth”, you are sure to succeed!
                                                                      (Heb.12:2)

    Heb.12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of faith;
    who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,
    despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
                                                                                            (Rev.3:21 / Rev.21:7)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #207305
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Everyone,

    1Cor.3:11-15 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
    Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
    Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be
    revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's
    work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's
    work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
                                                                                                                              (Heb.12:29)
    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #207307
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 02 2010,21:57)
    Hi Everyone,

    1Cor.3:11-15 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
    Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
    Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be
    revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's
    work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's
    work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
                                                                                                                              (Heb.12:29)
    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hey Ed,

    This is great and so true.

    Jesus is the foundation.

    Ephesians 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

    #207309
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 02 2010,21:50)
    Hi Everyone,

    We might not fully understand “The Big Picture” all at once,
    But by staying on track and praying the The HolySpirit will
    open up to you “Bible Truth”, you are sure to succeed!
                                                                      (Heb.12:2)

    Heb.12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of faith;
    who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,
    despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
                                                                                            (Rev.3:21 / Rev.21:7)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed,

    Right on again!

    The Big Picture IS Jesus.

    Jesus is the foundation. Jesus created everything.

    All treasures are hidden in Jesus.

    Yahsuah Mesiach is God's Salvation given to us.

    By giving God's son all praise glory and worship we are doing God's will….and bring glory back to God.

    Great verses.

    #207344
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 02 2010,14:16)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 02 2010,21:50)
    Hi Everyone,

    We might not fully understand “The Big Picture” all at once,
    But by staying on track and praying the The HolySpirit will
    open up to you “Bible Truth”, you are sure to succeed!
                                                                      (Heb.12:2)

    Heb.12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of faith;
    who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,
    despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
                                                                                            (Rev.3:21 / Rev.21:7)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed,

    Right on again!

    The Big Picture IS Jesus.

    Jesus is the foundation. Jesus created everything.

    All treasures are hidden in Jesus.

    Yahsuah Mesiach is God's Salvation given to us.

    By giving  God's son all praise glory and worship we are doing God's will….and bring glory back to God.

    Great verses.


    Hi David,

    Get your FACTS straight: YHVH is “The Creator” (Jeremiah 10:10-15)
    Jesus is the foundation though(He is also the cornerstone)! (Job 38:6)

    YHVH is “The Big Picture”; Jesus is a “Fractal” of YHVH, so MUST we be a “Fractal”!
    It's like a ball of Mercury: you can splatter it all over the place and each
    piece no matter how small looks like it did when it was whole!

    2Cor:4:4: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of
    them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of
    Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
    Rom:8:29: For whom he did foreknow, he also did pre-
    destinate to be conformed to the image of his Son
    ,
    that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
                                                                       (Col.1:15)

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #208595
    Ed J
    Participant

    To All,

    In written grammar there is what is called the article.
    In the English we have a total of Three articles; both the
    definite and the indefinite. The word THE is the definite article.
    The definite article is used to define something or someone that is
    definite. A and AN are both indefinite articles being less specific. There
    is only one article in Hebrew
    [ה], it is definite and pronounced Hä and Hey.
    It's used twice in GOD’s Holy Name יהוה pronounced YÄ-hä-vā and spelled YHVH
    in English. There's at least 12 different articles in Greek; and all of them are definite.
    The determining factor for which one that is used is based upon whether the case is Dative,
    Nominative, Genitive, Vocative, or Accusative. Some of the Greek articles are ο, τον, του, and τω.

    Conclusion: Each and every time “an indefinite article” is used in The Scriptures it is ALWAYS used at
    the translators discretion
    ; nothing to build doctrine on! (Isaiah 55:8-9) And in like manor ALL personal
    pronouns
    (He, She, Him, Her, His & it) ALL originate form ONE GREEK WORD: [αὐτός] (autos) ow-tos'!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #208651
    Ed J
    Participant

    To All,

    Neither The Hebrew Masoretic Texts nor the Greek language have a word for “OF”!

    Modern Hebrew does in fact have a word for “OF” (של),
    but this is not the case of The Hebrew Masoretic Texts.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #208683
    Arnold
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 02 2010,13:50)
    Hi Everyone,

    We might not fully understand “The Big Picture” all at once,
    But by staying on track and praying the The HolySpirit will
    open up to you “Bible Truth”, you are sure to succeed!
                                                                      (Heb.12:2)

    Heb.12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of faith;
    who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,
    despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
                                                                                            (Rev.3:21 / Rev.21:7)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed, you should have become a map maker, as a teacher of the Bible, you are a blind leader.

    Georg

    #208751
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Arnold @ Aug. 13 2010,12:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 02 2010,13:50)
    Hi Everyone,

    We might not fully understand “The Big Picture” all at once,
    But by staying on track and praying the The HolySpirit will
    open up to you “Bible Truth”, you are sure to succeed!
                                                                      (Heb.12:2)

    Heb.12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of faith;
    who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,
    despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
                                                                                            (Rev.3:21 / Rev.21:7)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed, you should have become a map maker, as a teacher of the Bible, you are a blind leader.

    Georg


    hi Georg

    you are so right,about edj

    i do believe it is God who trough his word that change us if we are willing to follow the way of truth what is written in it.

    the all scriptures tells us how the will of God is done ,but very few follow it ,

    they have there own views,and understanding of what they do not understand,

    and when they look that they show understanding they have study it and copy from someone else,this is of no use to the person.

    unless you live the truth you do not have it.

    Pierre

    #208835
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2010,14:46)

    Quote (Arnold @ Aug. 13 2010,12:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 02 2010,13:50)
    Hi Everyone,

    We might not fully understand “The Big Picture” all at once,
    But by staying on track and praying the The HolySpirit will
    open up to you “Bible Truth”, you are sure to succeed!
                                                                      (Heb.12:2)

    Heb.12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of faith;
    who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,
    despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
                                                                                            (Rev.3:21 / Rev.21:7)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed, you should have become a map maker, as a teacher of the Bible, you are a blind leader.

    Georg


    hi Georg

    you are so right,about edj

    i do believe it is God who trough his word that change us if we are willing to follow the way of truth what is written in it.

    the all scriptures tells us how the will of God is done ,but very few follow it ,

    they have there own views,and understanding of what they do not understand,

    and when they look that they show understanding they have study it and copy from someone else,this is of no use to the person.

    unless you live the truth you do not have it.

    Pierre


    Hi Terraricca and Georg, (James 1:23-24 / Psalm 18:25-27 / James 4:11)

    1Thess.4:6-8 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: (Is.54:17)
    because that the LORD is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and
    testified
    . For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. He therefore
    that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his HolySpirit
    .
    Matt.12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven
    unto men: but the blasphemy against the “HolySpirit” shall not be forgiven unto men. (Matt.10:25-26)

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Eccl.9:12-16 / Isaiah 27:4-5)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #212656
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Greetings,

    What is the big picture?

    God exists!

    God pro-created His firstborn.

    God thru His firstborn created everything else.

    God after creating Man told man to 1-Be fruitful 2-Multiply 3-Fill the Earth 4-Take care of the earth 5-Have dominion over all things created for Man

    The Professor

    #215385
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 18 2010,11:21)
    Greetings,

    What is the big picture?

    God exists!

    God pro-created His firstborn.

    God thru His firstborn created everything else.

    God after creating Man told man to 1-Be fruitful 2-Multiply 3-Fill the Earth 4-Take care of the earth 5-Have dominion over all things created for Man

    The Professor


    Hi DBF,

                         “The Big Picture” is truly GOD!
                   YHVH is the maker of all! (Isaiah 44:24)

    Isaiah 44:24-25 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb,
    I the LORD that maketh all; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth
    abroad the earth by myself
    ; That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh
    diviners mad; that turneth wise backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish;

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #215559
    RokkaMan
    Participant

    The Big Picture is:

    Everything came and comes from The Source.

    The Source isn't a being or person.

    The Source is a conscious intelligent force.

    Actually, The Source is simply The Source…of all things.

    The Source, simply is.

    and this source, YHVH our God… created all things.

    and because he created all things, we are all dependant on him even if we know it or not.

    He created mankind in a special way, to be independant of him…but what is true life if it's not with the one who created not only you, but everything else.

    ————

    So the big picture is God made us as an object of love.

    He made us family.

    and the whole purpose of life, is first to realize who he is, and then to love him, so that we may enjoy eternity with him.

    ————

    Think about it, we have a God so powerful…he can create entertainment for us and him for all eternity.

    He just simply wants to spend eternal time with us.

    but a true relationship is a 2-way street.

    Earth is the testing grounds that prepares us and conditions us for a relationship with him.

    If we fail, we're discarded.

    #215564
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi RokkaMan,

    What do you do if your children don't turn out the way you want? Would you discard them?
    No; you would discipline them right from the get go, to make sure they don't turn out wrong.

    Prob.13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
    Prob.3:11-12 My son, despise not the chastening of the LORD; neither be weary of his correction:
    For whom the LORD(YHVH) loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #215565
    RokkaMan
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2010,15:08)
    Hi RokkaMan,

    What do you do if your children don't turn out the way you want? Would you discard them?
    No; you would discipline them right from the get go, to make sure they don't turn out wrong.

    Prob.13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
    Prob.3:11-12 My son, despise not the chastening of the LORD; neither be weary of his correction:
    For whom the LORD(YHVH) loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I agree, but what happens when that fails? and what happens when you continually discipline them and show them the right way, but they choose instead to continue to drink, do drugs, have sex….

    There comes a point where that person, according to their own will…hit the point of no return.

    When that happens all you can do is let them go, to indulge in their sins/behavior.

    ————–

    God does the same thing, he gives us chances and disciplines us, but when we hit the point of no return…and choose sin over him, what can he do?

    He gave us independant will, he won't force anyone to come to him… and when your life is over, you will die in the sin you so much loved.

    and hell is where you get to spend the rest of your life living in the sin you loved in the world.

    the only problem is God takes away all his goodness and presence from you.

    ——————-

    So on earth while you shared God's positive emotions of happiness, love, enjoyment, pleasure, satisfaction… and u attributed that to sin instead of him….

    In hell you only get to experience the product of sin and evil, which are emotions of, regret, hate torment, pain… ect.

    ——————

    In hell, God leaves u completely, and when he does that, he takes all his goodness with him…so all u can experience in hell, are the negative evil things. No good found anywhere.

    #215566
    RokkaMan
    Participant

    So instead of loving sin like u would on earth.

    God takes love away from you, and leaves u with what sin produces…

    Hate.

    So in hell all you can do is Hate sin, and regret sin, and pain over sin, and despair over sin.

    #215573
    terraricca
    Participant

    all

    Mt 11:25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.
    Mt 11:26 Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure

    Pierre

    #215594
    RokkaMan
    Participant

    Wow terrica, you're being a jerk for posting the same 2 bible verses on every single post.

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