Second chance salvation

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Dec. 14 2008,10:17)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2008,09:56) Hi mk, After Christ comes we will not be able to be reconciled with God by baptism into his body. What of bedside conversions? Really, Nick……narrow, narrow, narrow thinking! Thank God he allows for more ways to find Him than YOU do! Perhaps you are leaning too heavily on certain scriptures that were not inspired from God at all?  Could it be?  It sure could.

Wow I am not the only one who thinks so…..
Irene

[Elizabeth]

Quote (karmarie @ April 15 2010,13:45)

Quote (Elizabeth @ April 15 2010,10:45) This too is what makes me upset with you, you jump to conclusion in several statements about the W.W.C.of God that are not true, please stop lying…… Did you attend that Church?  I don't think so.  As far as the statement about karmaria is nowhere on here.  I went all the way back to page one.   Irene Hi, I studied all the books and magazines from all the branches of Herbert Armstrong ; I read Armstrongs book plus everything from The United Church of God, The Living Church of God, Philadelphian Trumpet, Ronald Weinland. This is what they teach. God is not saving people today. But will be in the future. Gods Word though says the opposite.

We belonged to the W.W. Church of God from 1984 to 1994. Back then the Church did not teach what you said. We believed back then that we were the called out and chosen ones. Until then we never read the Bible and for that i am forever thankful to Mr. Armstrong for. He used to say dust of your Bibles and start reading it. The Sabbath was the sign which now we know that it is not. It is a sign for the Children of Israel Exodus 31:16-17 God has been good to us. He has richly blessed us. We have sought Him out from the very beginning when Georg and I got married. To then say such nasty things about Mr. Armstrong has always bothered me. Was He wrong in a lot of things, yes. However which Church is not today. Most either believe in the trinity or the Sabbath keeping. Both is not Scriptural, which we learned. That does not change however the time spend in the W.W.Church of God. One thing even our Daughter says to me today, we were like Family. Nobody ever gossipped, which I could never say about the Catholic Church which we belonged to since birth til Georg was 47 and I was 46. Also the Service was 2 hrs. each Sabbath and we kept all of God's Holy Days listed in Levit. I feel that one day we will do so again, because in Rev. it talks about the Feast of Tabernacle. We sang at least 3 Songs before Service to praise God and one Song in closing. All the members participated in singing, which again I could never say about the Catholic Church. I was a Song Leader there and had to tell the people come on and sing… Mass was a half an hr. and some even fell asleep with that. Standing in front of them seeing all was maddening. So when God called us out of that Church we were Baptized according to Scripture. I knew it. The first day after that was amazing. I used to use curse words a lot…. and every time I did God's Holy Spirit told me. And so it went on with every wrong thing I did. And it still does so. But Sin is not controlling me no longer. We know now that God is with us….. For that I am forever thankful to God for…..I just can't understand though that some will point the finger at Mr. Armstron but never at any other Church except the Cathplic Church, they all teach the trinity, which is just as wrong. No pointing fingers at them. Just look at this tread how many times did Nick say something about that Church…. Do not judge so God will not judge you …..
Peace and Love Irene

[terraricca]

Quote (Elizabeth @ April 16 2010,14:15)

Quote (terraricca @ April 15 2010,13:00) Quote (banana @ Dec. 13 2009,01:24) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2009,15:54) hi gene ok God draws you ,would this mean he calls you ???like Paul for exemple ?? or cornelius? or the ethiopian eunuch ??or like Christ calls is diciples,???or like from the preaching of the diciples ? terraricca The prophets of the OT were called, the apostles were called, Paul was called; the Ethiopian eunuch was drawn by the word, all the saints were drawn by hearing the word preached. But then, around the 6th Century, all people were forced to believe what they were preached to. After the great Reformation in 1517, people began to choose the church they wanted to belong to. From than on, more denomination have emerged, and more choices for people. After that, people would just go to the church their parents belonged to, for a long time. Today, we have come to the point were people don't care about the tradition of their parents, they go to the church that is either closest to them, that preaches what they want to hear, or they don't go to church at all. Some people have stopped going to a church, because they have come to understand that churches do not have the answers they claim to have, consequently, they do their own searching for truth. Georg georg so the  Ethiopian eunuch found his interest and was drawn to Gods word, but since then nothing has changed ,the fact that you have only one religion and not the true one,but teaches truth of God and you apply it and do good from the heart ,wen your order comes up you will see favor from God,the ones who have the scriptures and read it to themselves religion or not you always stand alone in judgement,but if you fallow men religion, well ,men can not save,and God is not your savior, this is a problem is it?? so to me it is always what is in your heart and to move forward to be holy so you can see the lord. to be come holy imply that you get rid of all false teachings,renew your spirit with true knowledge of God,cultivate the fruits of the spirit ,understand what you know,and always look for Gods approval in all you do. it is not the amount of knowledge someone has that important it is what he understand of that knowledge. In other words, I'm in good company here. Georg

georg

i enjoy to sharpen my knowledge with you but only in truth,
not sarcasm,and with good intention ,i know that some are on this site are no worth to make discussion with,we can discard those useless ones,God will judge them.

[karmarie]

Quote (Elizabeth @ April 16 2010,17:27)

We belonged to the W.W. Church of God from 1984 to 1994.  Back then the Church did not teach what you said.  We believed back then that we were the called out and chosen ones.  Until then we never read the Bible and for that i am forever thankful to Mr. Armstrong for.  He used to say dust of your Bibles and start reading it.  The Sabbath was the sign which now we know that it is not.  It is a sign for the Children of Israel Exodus 31:16-17  God has been good to us.  He has richly blessed us.  We have sought Him out from the very beginning when Georg and I got married. To then say such nasty things about Mr. Armstrong has always bothered me.  Was He wrong in a lot of things, yes.  However which Church is not today.  Most either believe in the trinity or the Sabbath keeping.  Both is not Scriptural, which we learned.  That does not change however the time spend in the W.W.Church of God.  One thing even our Daughter says to me today, we were like Family.  Nobody ever gossipped, which I could never say about the Catholic Church which we belonged to since birth til Georg was 47 and I was 46.  Also the Service was 2 hrs. each Sabbath and we kept all of God's Holy Days listed in Levit.  I feel that one day we will do so again, because in Rev. it talks about the Feast of Tabernacle.  We sang at least 3 Songs before Service to praise God and one Song in closing.  All the members participated in singing, which again I could never say about the Catholic Church.  I was a Song Leader there and had to tell the people come on and sing… Mass was a half an hr. and some even fell asleep with that.  Standing in front of them seeing all was maddening.  So when God called us out of that Church we were Baptized according to Scripture.  I knew it.  The first day after that was amazing.  I used to use curse words a lot…. and every time I did God's Holy Spirit told me.  And so it went on with every wrong thing I did.  And it still does so.  But Sin is not controlling me no longer.  We know now that God is with us….. For that I am forever thankful to God for…..I just can't understand though that some will point the finger at Mr. Armstron but never at any other Church except the Cathplic Church, they all teach the trinity, which is just as wrong.  No pointing fingers at them.  Just look at this tread how many times did Nick say something about that Church…. Do not judge so God will not judge you ….. Peace and Love Irene

Hi Irene,

I did enjoy reading alot of the reading, and also watching the tele programms (example from the Living Church of God) but it started disagreeing with what I saw in scripture so that was it for me with them. And with all of them. I only follow God now.

I remember praying day after day (quite a while back) asking God where His church is, I never did get an answer, only one strange thing with the Mormans, but I think that was just because God was sick of hearing me day after day.

I often wondered though about the JWs cause the same Lady has come to my house every Mounth for the last 5 years despite me telling Her years ago that I dont want to be one. Shes really nice, they all seem to be.

You were a song Leader? Same with my Mum.

[Elizabeth]

Quote (terraricca @ April 16 2010,15:31)

Quote (Elizabeth @ April 16 2010,14:15) Quote (terraricca @ April 15 2010,13:00) Quote (banana @ Dec. 13 2009,01:24) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2009,15:54) hi gene ok God draws you ,would this mean he calls you ???like Paul for exemple ?? or cornelius? or the ethiopian eunuch ??or like Christ calls is diciples,???or like from the preaching of the diciples ? terraricca The prophets of the OT were called, the apostles were called, Paul was called; the Ethiopian eunuch was drawn by the word, all the saints were drawn by hearing the word preached. But then, around the 6th Century, all people were forced to believe what they were preached to. After the great Reformation in 1517, people began to choose the church they wanted to belong to. From than on, more denomination have emerged, and more choices for people. After that, people would just go to the church their parents belonged to, for a long time. Today, we have come to the point were people don't care about the tradition of their parents, they go to the church that is either closest to them, that preaches what they want to hear, or they don't go to church at all. Some people have stopped going to a church, because they have come to understand that churches do not have the answers they claim to have, consequently, they do their own searching for truth. Georg georg so the  Ethiopian eunuch found his interest and was drawn to Gods word, but since then nothing has changed ,the fact that you have only one religion and not the true one,but teaches truth of God and you apply it and do good from the heart ,wen your order comes up you will see favor from God,the ones who have the scriptures and read it to themselves religion or not you always stand alone in judgement,but if you fallow men religion, well ,men can not save,and God is not your savior, this is a problem is it?? so to me it is always what is in your heart and to move forward to be holy so you can see the lord. to be come holy imply that you get rid of all false teachings,renew your spirit with true knowledge of God,cultivate the fruits of the spirit ,understand what you know,and always look for Gods approval in all you do. it is not the amount of knowledge someone has that important it is what he understand of that knowledge. In other words, I'm in good company here. Georg georg i enjoy to sharpen my knowledge with you but only in truth, not sarcasm,and with good intention ,i know that some are on this site are no worth to make discussion with,we can discard those useless ones,God will judge them.

“But only in truth”?
Can you show me where I was not truthful?
You say, I have only “one” religion, but not the true one; how many religions do you have? and which one “is” the true one?

Georg

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