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At the second coming satan and his angels are spared
from destruction.
Why is it so? This only means that the job is not finished.As we can see in revelation 19:20,only the 10horned beast, and the false prophet are cast in the fire,
and satan put in prison for a1000years;and his angels are free to go to do their business.What is the reason for this? Is the second coming not suppose to be the finish?
This is because God is not finish with his plan.
Satan and his angels still have a final job to do.Jesus will set up his kingdom,and the jews in that kingdom will be taught by the resurrected saints.
The saints will be kings and priests and teachers.
No entry for those angels and gentiles.The remnant of the gentiles that have survived armageddon; will be outside the kingdom,and they also will be taught BY THE JEWS,WITH NO SATAN;only his angels,they have no chief for a while.
His angels will be outside the kingdom to resist and to tempt the gentiles.
Many will accept the Lord,but also many will still refuse
the teachings. There will be ten generations in the kingdom for all will live upto a hundred years old.All will multiply,and the earth will be populated.
When the 1000years have expired;satan will be let loose to take charge of his angels, and gather all the non believers to one place,to surround the kingdom,and there they all will be destroyed by fire *fom GOD*.They will be burried in the valley called HAMONGOG.
It will take the jews seven months to burry them.Satan and his angels and all with them will be no more.
Then comes the second resurrection of all the dead, of all generations, and of all religions. They will be judged by the books;the sheep put on the right, and the goats on the left.
This is the white throne judgement.The sheep will be accepted;the goats cast in the fire where satan and his angels are.
This is the last judgement.But the earth, and the heavens are still polluted and full of places of worship,and rubble.
The earth will be melted, and the heavens will be rolled up like a scroll.When the new heavens and earth is finished,God will come down to earth,and we can see him face to face.
God is now finished with his plan on earth.
Looking forward for more wonderful things to see.wakeup.
He who has an ear, let him hear.
My dear friends, this is the second letter I have written to you, trying to awaken in you by my reminders an unclouded understanding.
1.
Remember what was said in the past by the holy prophets and the command of the Lord and Saviour given by your apostles.
2.
First of all, do not forget that in the final days there will come sarcastic scoffers whose life is ruled by their passions.
3.
'What has happened to the promise of his coming?' they will say, 'Since our Fathers died everything has gone on just as it has since the beginning of creation!'
4.
They deliberately ignore the fact that long ago there were the heavens and the earth, formed out of water and through water by the Word of God,
5.
And that it was through these same factors that the world of those days was destroyed by the floodwaters.
6.
It is the same Word which is reserving the present heavens and earth for fire, keeping them till the Day of Judgement and of the destruction of sinners.
7.
But there is one thing, my dear friends, that you must never forget: that with the Lord, a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
8.
The Lord is not being slow in carrying out his promises, as some people think he is; rather is he being patient with you, wanting nobody to be lost and everybody to be brought to repentance.
9.
The Day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then with a roar the sky will vanish, the elements will catch fire and melt away, the earth and all that it contains will be burned up.
10.
Since everything is coming to an end like this, what holy and saintly lives you should be living.
11.
While you wait for the Day of God to come, and try to hasten its coming: on that Day the sky will dissolve in flames and the elements melt in the heat.
12.
What we are waiting for, relying on his promises, is the new heavens and new earth, where uprightness will be at home.
13.
So then, my dear friends, while you are waiting, do your best to live blameless and unsullied lives so that he will find you at peace.
14.
Think of our Lord's patience as your opportunity to be saved; our brother Paul, who is so dear to us, told you this when he wrote to you with the wisdom that he was given.
15.
He makes this point too in his letters as a whole wherever he touches on these things. In all his letters there are of course some passages which are hard to understand, and these are the ones that uneducated and unbalanced people distort, in the same way as they distort the rest of scripture–to their own destruction.
16.
Since you have been forewarned about this, my dear friends, be careful that you do not come to the point of losing the firm ground that you are standing on, carried away by the errors of unprincipled people.
17.
Instead, continue to grow in the grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory, in time and eternity. Amen.
…………..
22.
'If anyone says to you then, “Look, here is the Christ,” or “Over here,” do not believe it.
23.
For false Christs and false prophets will arise and provide great signs and portents, enough to deceive even the elect, if that were possible.
24.
Look! I have given you warning.
25.
'If, then, they say to you, “Look, he is in the desert,” do not go there; “Look, he is in some hiding place,” do not believe it.
26.
Because the coming of the Son of man will be like lightning striking in the east and flashing far into the west.
27.
Wherever the corpse is, that is where the vultures will gather.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 26 2013,11:15) At the second coming satan and his angels are spared
from destruction.
Why is it so? This only means that the job is not finished.As we can see in revelation 19:20,only the 10horned beast, and the false prophet are cast in the fire,
and satan put in prison for a1000years;and his angels are free to go to do their business.What is the reason for this? Is the second coming not suppose to be the finish?
This is because God is not finish with his plan.
Satan and his angels still have a final job to do.Jesus will set up his kingdom,and the jews in that kingdom will be taught by the resurrected saints.
The saints will be kings and priests and teachers.
No entry for those angels and gentiles.The remnant of the gentiles that have survived armageddon; will be outside the kingdom,and they also will be taught BY THE JEWS,WITH NO SATAN;only his angels,they have no chief for a while.
His angels will be outside the kingdom to resist and to tempt the gentiles.
Many will accept the Lord,but also many will still refuse
the teachings. There will be ten generations in the kingdom for all will live upto a hundred years old.All will multiply,and the earth will be populated.
When the 1000years have expired;satan will be let loose to take charge of his angels, and gather all the non believers to one place,to surround the kingdom,and there they all will be destroyed by fire *fom GOD*.They will be burried in the valley called HAMONGOG.
It will take the jews seven months to burry them.Satan and his angels and all with them will be no more.
Then comes the second resurrection of all the dead, of all generations, and of all religions. They will be judged by the books;the sheep put on the right, and the goats on the left.
This is the white throne judgement.The sheep will be accepted;the goats cast in the fire where satan and his angels are.
This is the last judgement.But the earth, and the heavens are still polluted and full of places of worship,and rubble.
The earth will be melted, and the heavens will be rolled up like a scroll.When the new heavens and earth is finished,God will come down to earth,and we can see him face to face.
God is now finished with his plan on earth.
Looking forward for more wonderful things to see.wakeup.
Hi WakeupYou explained that really well in your own words. Everything matches up with scripture.
We look forward to all the prophesies being fulfilled and pray that we will be in that first resurrection,
so that we can partake and witness
all the wonderful things to come during the millennium.Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 26 2013,11:15) At the second coming satan and his angels are spared
from destruction.
Why is it so? This only means that the job is not finished.As we can see in revelation 19:20,only the 10horned beast, and the false prophet are cast in the fire,
and satan put in prison for a1000years;and his angels are free to go to do their business.What is the reason for this? Is the second coming not suppose to be the finish?
This is because God is not finish with his plan.
Satan and his angels still have a final job to do.Jesus will set up his kingdom,and the jews in that kingdom will be taught by the resurrected saints.
The saints will be kings and priests and teachers.
No entry for those angels and gentiles.The remnant of the gentiles that have survived armageddon; will be outside the kingdom,and they also will be taught BY THE JEWS,WITH NO SATAN;only his angels,they have no chief for a while.
His angels will be outside the kingdom to resist and to tempt the gentiles.
Many will accept the Lord,but also many will still refuse
the teachings. There will be ten generations in the kingdom for all will live upto a hundred years old.All will multiply,and the earth will be populated.
When the 1000years have expired;satan will be let loose to take charge of his angels, and gather all the non believers to one place,to surround the kingdom,and there they all will be destroyed by fire *fom GOD*.They will be burried in the valley called HAMONGOG.
It will take the jews seven months to burry them.Satan and his angels and all with them will be no more.
Then comes the second resurrection of all the dead, of all generations, and of all religions. They will be judged by the books;the sheep put on the right, and the goats on the left.
This is the white throne judgement.The sheep will be accepted;the goats cast in the fire where satan and his angels are.
This is the last judgement.But the earth, and the heavens are still polluted and full of places of worship,and rubble.
The earth will be melted, and the heavens will be rolled up like a scroll.When the new heavens and earth is finished,God will come down to earth,and we can see him face to face.
God is now finished with his plan on earth.
Looking forward for more wonderful things to see.wakeup.
Thank you Wakeup,I enjoyed that.
Revelation 18:2
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.We see again, like so many examples of the earth not being melted down at the coming, exactly what use all the rubble/ruins from all the fallen cities of the world eventually become during the millennium…the habitation of Satan's angels while their king is locked up.
So simple, yet so rejected.
Thus has it always been for the written word of God in every generation, this one being no exception.
How sad it must be this way for now.
Marantha!!Quote (2besee @ Aug. 26 2013,13:09) He who has an ear, let him hear. My dear friends, this is the second letter I have written to you, trying to awaken in you by my reminders an unclouded understanding.
1.
Remember what was said in the past by the holy prophets and the command of the Lord and Saviour given by your apostles.
2.
First of all, do not forget that in the final days there will come sarcastic scoffers whose life is ruled by their passions.
3.
'What has happened to the promise of his coming?' they will say, 'Since our Fathers died everything has gone on just as it has since the beginning of creation!'
4.
They deliberately ignore the fact that long ago there were the heavens and the earth, formed out of water and through water by the Word of God,
5.
And that it was through these same factors that the world of those days was destroyed by the floodwaters.
6.
It is the same Word which is reserving the present heavens and earth for fire, keeping them till the Day of Judgement and of the destruction of sinners.
7.
But there is one thing, my dear friends, that you must never forget: that with the Lord, a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
8.
The Lord is not being slow in carrying out his promises, as some people think he is; rather is he being patient with you, wanting nobody to be lost and everybody to be brought to repentance.
9.
The Day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then with a roar the sky will vanish, the elements will catch fire and melt away, the earth and all that it contains will be burned up.
10.
Since everything is coming to an end like this, what holy and saintly lives you should be living.
11.
While you wait for the Day of God to come, and try to hasten its coming: on that Day the sky will dissolve in flames and the elements melt in the heat.
12.
What we are waiting for, relying on his promises, is the new heavens and new earth, where uprightness will be at home.
13.
So then, my dear friends, while you are waiting, do your best to live blameless and unsullied lives so that he will find you at peace.
14.
Think of our Lord's patience as your opportunity to be saved; our brother Paul, who is so dear to us, told you this when he wrote to you with the wisdom that he was given.
15.
He makes this point too in his letters as a whole wherever he touches on these things. In all his letters there are of course some passages which are hard to understand, and these are the ones that uneducated and unbalanced people distort, in the same way as they distort the rest of scripture–to their own destruction.
16.
Since you have been forewarned about this, my dear friends, be careful that you do not come to the point of losing the firm ground that you are standing on, carried away by the errors of unprincipled people.
17.
Instead, continue to grow in the grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory, in time and eternity. Amen.
…………..
22.
'If anyone says to you then, “Look, here is the Christ,” or “Over here,” do not believe it.
23.
For false Christs and false prophets will arise and provide great signs and portents, enough to deceive even the elect, if that were possible.
24.
Look! I have given you warning.
25.
'If, then, they say to you, “Look, he is in the desert,” do not go there; “Look, he is in some hiding place,” do not believe it.
26.
Because the coming of the Son of man will be like lightning striking in the east and flashing far into the west.
27.
Wherever the corpse is, that is where the vultures will gather.
Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.Quote We see again, like so many examples of the earth not being melted down at the coming, exactly what use all the rubble/ruins from all the fallen cities of the world eventually become during the millennium…the habitation of Satan's angels while their king is locked up. So, you are right, and Peter is wrong?
Devolution: You are fearful, your planned tactics were not very good.
Quote Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. I was only a babe when I asked God the question : “How will we know that it is you Lord, and not the false Christ?”
I did not know prophecy. I knew very little. God showed me, as a babe, and I believe him. You can believe what you want. I pity anyone who is misled, but, I do not pity deliberation.Quote (2besee @ Aug. 26 2013,19:51) Quote We see again, like so many examples of the earth not being melted down at the coming, exactly what use all the rubble/ruins from all the fallen cities of the world eventually become during the millennium…the habitation of Satan's angels while their king is locked up. So, you are right, and Peter is wrong?
Devolution: You are fearful, your planned tactics were not very good.
2Besse,Try not to be so defensive, my response was to your statement:
Quote He makes this point too in his letters as a whole wherever he touches on these things. In all his letters there are of course some passages which are hard to understand, and these are the ones that uneducated and unbalanced people distort, in the same way as they distort the rest of scripture–to their own destruction. So you see, you have taken personally what was actually a rebuttal to an inaccurate statement.
Which, by the way, was quite an unnecessary and nasty insult,
I said nothing regarding your person, but regarding your statement.Anyway, whenever we come across prophetic scripture that seems to contradict other prophecies, it is a sure sign that one of them therefore is a generalization, where God is 'compressing' a time sequence into a seemingly straight forward declaration.
Tell me, if the earth is melted at the coming, and we all know the below scripture has never occurred in history, then how can the below take place?
Keeping in mind it concerns the final gathering of the dispersed of Israel…not Christians, but Israel herself…So forgetting replacement theology for a moment, please explain the below and how it can be fulfilled if the earth is melted at the coming?
Isaiah 11:
15 And the LORD shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod.16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.
That's part of the Red Sea by the way!!
So, can you please explain it for me?
Feel free to include any part of the whole chapterThanks 2Besee.
Quote Try not to be so defensive, my response was to your statement: Quote He makes this point too in his letters as a whole wherever he touches on these things. In all his letters there are of course some passages which are hard to understand, and these are the ones that uneducated and unbalanced people distort, in the same way as they distort the rest of scripture–to their own destruction.
So you see, you have taken personally what was actually a rebuttal to an inaccurate statement. Which, by the way, was quite an unnecessary and nasty insult, I said nothing regarding your person, but regarding your statement.
Devolution, stop blowing smoke.
Why did you quote that one verse out of the whole chapter that I posted, without giving any explanation as to why you highlighted that one verse?
What exactly was your point?
What about the rest of the verses?Isaiah 11: This will come to pass soon, during the three and a half years tribulation. Then, Christ will return, the end of the world (2 Peter 3)
That is how I understand it.
2besee,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Hi 2besee,Quote Why did you quote that one verse out of the whole chapter that I posted, without giving any explanation as to why you highlighted that one verse? Fair question, I didn't even realize til you pointed it out, sorry about that, it was way past my bedtime when I posted it!!
Quote What exactly was your point? What I was trying to get across, is that Christ said that the learned and the prudent would not understand but that the babes would.
Christ was saying that education has nothing to do with understanding the word, because babes (lesser educated) could understand, but the wise & prudent (well educated) could not.
*The point* It is the Spirit which teaches, not man.
Quote What about the rest of the verses? 2Besee, I am well aware of those scriptures and have been for a very long time…and I love them as much as any other written word…I truly do.
So I will comment on them once I put it together for you tonight or tomorrow after work.
Anyway, I asked you about Isaiah 11 because it is an awesome chapter, and I want you to look into it.
Quote Isaiah 11: This will come to pass soon, during the three and a half years tribulation. Then, Christ will return, the end of the world (2 Peter 3)
That is how I understand it.Well Isaiah 11 doesn't match up with that scenario 2b.
Again, which is why I would like you to look into it more.
It's a great chapter, a good read.If you do have a look, take special note of v4 and what happens after it.
Thanks 2Besee.
Devolution, apology accepted
And I agree. I left school aged 15 myself!I'm doing a scriptural post for bodhitharta, which will take a while, as I only have a phone (Oh, how I wish I had my computer). I'm also following the news closely (with Syria). So, might get back to this in a couple of days. Okay.
Quote (2besee @ Aug. 26 2013,13:09) He who has an ear, let him hear. My dear friends, this is the second letter I have written to you, trying to awaken in you by my reminders an unclouded understanding.
1.
Remember what was said in the past by the holy prophets and the command of the Lord and Saviour given by your apostles.
2.
First of all, do not forget that in the final days there will come sarcastic scoffers whose life is ruled by their passions.
3.
'What has happened to the promise of his coming?' they will say, 'Since our Fathers died everything has gone on just as it has since the beginning of creation!'
4.
They deliberately ignore the fact that long ago there were the heavens and the earth, formed out of water and through water by the Word of God,
5.
And that it was through these same factors that the world of those days was destroyed by the floodwaters.
6.
It is the same Word which is reserving the present heavens and earth for fire, keeping them till the Day of Judgement and of the destruction of sinners.
7.
But there is one thing, my dear friends, that you must never forget: that with the Lord, a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
8.
The Lord is not being slow in carrying out his promises, as some people think he is; rather is he being patient with you, wanting nobody to be lost and everybody to be brought to repentance.
9.
The Day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then with a roar the sky will vanish, the elements will catch fire and melt away, the earth and all that it contains will be burned up.
10.
Since everything is coming to an end like this, what holy and saintly lives you should be living.
11.
While you wait for the Day of God to come, and try to hasten its coming: on that Day the sky will dissolve in flames and the elements melt in the heat.
12.
What we are waiting for, relying on his promises, is the new heavens and new earth, where uprightness will be at home.
13.
So then, my dear friends, while you are waiting, do your best to live blameless and unsullied lives so that he will find you at peace.
14.
Think of our Lord's patience as your opportunity to be saved; our brother Paul, who is so dear to us, told you this when he wrote to you with the wisdom that he was given.
15.
He makes this point too in his letters as a whole wherever he touches on these things. In all his letters there are of course some passages which are hard to understand, and these are the ones that uneducated and unbalanced people distort, in the same way as they distort the rest of scripture–to their own destruction.
16.
Since you have been forewarned about this, my dear friends, be careful that you do not come to the point of losing the firm ground that you are standing on, carried away by the errors of unprincipled people.
17.
Instead, continue to grow in the grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory, in time and eternity. Amen.
…………..
22.
'If anyone says to you then, “Look, here is the Christ,” or “Over here,” do not believe it.
23.
For false Christs and false prophets will arise and provide great signs and portents, enough to deceive even the elect, if that were possible.
24.
Look! I have given you warning.
25.
'If, then, they say to you, “Look, he is in the desert,” do not go there; “Look, he is in some hiding place,” do not believe it.
26.
Because the coming of the Son of man will be like lightning striking in the east and flashing far into the west.
27.
Wherever the corpse is, that is where the vultures will gather.
2Besee.Can you find anything what I have posted
contradictory to the scriptures?
If not;why warning your brothers not to see the truth?wakeup
Hi all,
2 Peter ch 3 deals with the end of the present earth at the end of the millennium, and not with the events of the Lords coming to raise the saints to rule over the nations left after his wrath is poured out.
So no problem.
This verse next must be the last verse of the events of Ch 20–and not the first verse of ch 21.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Res
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 26 2013,11:15) At the second coming satan and his angels are spared
from destruction.
Why is it so? This only means that the job is not finished.As we can see in revelation 19:20,only the 10horned beast, and the false prophet are cast in the fire,
and satan put in prison for a1000years;and his angels are free to go to do their business.What is the reason for this? Is the second coming not suppose to be the finish?
This is because God is not finish with his plan.
Satan and his angels still have a final job to do.Jesus will set up his kingdom,and the jews in that kingdom will be taught by the resurrected saints.
The saints will be kings and priests and teachers.
No entry for those angels and gentiles.The remnant of the gentiles that have survived armageddon; will be outside the kingdom,and they also will be taught BY THE JEWS,WITH NO SATAN;only his angels,they have no chief for a while.
His angels will be outside the kingdom to resist and to tempt the gentiles.
Many will accept the Lord,but also many will still refuse
the teachings. There will be ten generations in the kingdom for all will live upto a hundred years old.All will multiply,and the earth will be populated.
When the 1000years have expired;satan will be let loose to take charge of his angels, and gather all the non believers to one place,to surround the kingdom,and there they all will be destroyed by fire *fom GOD*.They will be burried in the valley called HAMONGOG.
It will take the jews seven months to burry them.Satan and his angels and all with them will be no more.
Then comes the second resurrection of all the dead, of all generations, and of all religions. They will be judged by the books;the sheep put on the right, and the goats on the left.
This is the white throne judgement.The sheep will be accepted;the goats cast in the fire where satan and his angels are.
This is the last judgement.But the earth, and the heavens are still polluted and full of places of worship,and rubble.
The earth will be melted, and the heavens will be rolled up like a scroll.When the new heavens and earth is finished,God will come down to earth,and we can see him face to face.
God is now finished with his plan on earth.
Looking forward for more wonderful things to see.wakeup.
Satan has no angels outside of men, and a masquerading as an angel of light by satan himself now.Satan will be in the pit during the reign of the saints and will have no way of tempting men.
Mans fallen flesh will still be there however.
Res
Hi Resting.
Revelation 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the *habitation of devils*, and the hold of *every foul spirit*, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
The fallen angels will still be here after the destruction of babylon,to tempt the remnants of the gentiles.
For they will multuply again during the 1000yrs,outside
the kingdom.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 02 2013,22:59) Hi Resting. Revelation 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the *habitation of devils*, and the hold of *every foul spirit*, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
The fallen angels will still be here after the destruction of babylon,to tempt the remnants of the gentiles.
For they will multuply again during the 1000yrs,outside
the kingdom.wakeup.
What fallen angels?Neither satan or evil spirits, were ever angels of Heaven.
When satan is in the pit then everything of his realm is in the pit.
Only when the thousand years are finished is satan released to deceive or tempt men.
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.Res.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2013,04:50) Quote (2besee @ Aug. 26 2013,13:09) He who has an ear, let him hear. My dear friends, this is the second letter I have written to you, trying to awaken in you by my reminders an unclouded understanding.
1.
Remember what was said in the past by the holy prophets and the command of the Lord and Saviour given by your apostles.
2.
First of all, do not forget that in the final days there will come sarcastic scoffers whose life is ruled by their passions.
3.
'What has happened to the promise of his coming?' they will say, 'Since our Fathers died everything has gone on just as it has since the beginning of creation!'
4.
They deliberately ignore the fact that long ago there were the heavens and the earth, formed out of water and through water by the Word of God,
5.
And that it was through these same factors that the world of those days was destroyed by the floodwaters.
6.
It is the same Word which is reserving the present heavens and earth for fire, keeping them till the Day of Judgement and of the destruction of sinners.
7.
But there is one thing, my dear friends, that you must never forget: that with the Lord, a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
8.
The Lord is not being slow in carrying out his promises, as some people think he is; rather is he being patient with you, wanting nobody to be lost and everybody to be brought to repentance.
9.
The Day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then with a roar the sky will vanish, the elements will catch fire and melt away, the earth and all that it contains will be burned up.
10.
Since everything is coming to an end like this, what holy and saintly lives you should be living.
11.
While you wait for the Day of God to come, and try to hasten its coming: on that Day the sky will dissolve in flames and the elements melt in the heat.
12.
What we are waiting for, relying on his promises, is the new heavens and new earth, where uprightness will be at home.
13.
So then, my dear friends, while you are waiting, do your best to live blameless and unsullied lives so that he will find you at peace.
14.
Think of our Lord's patience as your opportunity to be saved; our brother Paul, who is so dear to us, told you this when he wrote to you with the wisdom that he was given.
15.
He makes this point too in his letters as a whole wherever he touches on these things. In all his letters there are of course some passages which are hard to understand, and these are the ones that uneducated and unbalanced people distort, in the same way as they distort the rest of scripture–to their own destruction.
16.
Since you have been forewarned about this, my dear friends, be careful that you do not come to the point of losing the firm ground that you are standing on, carried away by the errors of unprincipled people.
17.
Instead, continue to grow in the grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory, in time and eternity. Amen.
…………..
22.
'If anyone says to you then, “Look, here is the Christ,” or “Over here,” do not believe it.
23.
For false Christs and false prophets will arise and provide great signs and portents, enough to deceive even the elect, if that were possible.
24.
Look! I have given you warning.
25.
'If, then, they say to you, “Look, he is in the desert,” do not go there; “Look, he is in some hiding place,” do not believe it.
26.
Because the coming of the Son of man will be like lightning striking in the east and flashing far into the west.
27.
Wherever the corpse is, that is where the vultures will gather.
2Besee.Can you find anything what I have posted
contradictory to the scriptures?
If not;why warning your brothers not to see the truth?wakeup
Because, you take people away from true prophecy by causing a distraction, and causing them to look elsewhere, IMO.I could say more, but I won't.
For anyone with ears to hear:
World powers. Gathering up high. War.
Have a good day!
Quote (Resting @ Sep. 03 2013,11:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 02 2013,22:59) Hi Resting. Revelation 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the *habitation of devils*, and the hold of *every foul spirit*, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
The fallen angels will still be here after the destruction of babylon,to tempt the remnants of the gentiles.
For they will multuply again during the 1000yrs,outside
the kingdom.wakeup.
What fallen angels?Neither satan or evil spirits, were ever angels of Heaven.
When satan is in the pit then everything of his realm is in the pit.
Only when the thousand years are finished is satan released to deceive or tempt men.
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.Res.
Resting.evelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought **and his angels**,
Revelation 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, **and his angels were cast out with him**.
Satan and his army;his angels.
wakeup.
Quote (2besee @ Sep. 03 2013,15:52) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2013,04:50) Quote (2besee @ Aug. 26 2013,13:09) He who has an ear, let him hear. My dear friends, this is the second letter I have written to you, trying to awaken in you by my reminders an unclouded understanding.
1.
Remember what was said in the past by the holy prophets and the command of the Lord and Saviour given by your apostles.
2.
First of all, do not forget that in the final days there will come sarcastic scoffers whose life is ruled by their passions.
3.
'What has happened to the promise of his coming?' they will say, 'Since our Fathers died everything has gone on just as it has since the beginning of creation!'
4.
They deliberately ignore the fact that long ago there were the heavens and the earth, formed out of water and through water by the Word of God,
5.
And that it was through these same factors that the world of those days was destroyed by the floodwaters.
6.
It is the same Word which is reserving the present heavens and earth for fire, keeping them till the Day of Judgement and of the destruction of sinners.
7.
But there is one thing, my dear friends, that you must never forget: that with the Lord, a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
8.
The Lord is not being slow in carrying out his promises, as some people think he is; rather is he being patient with you, wanting nobody to be lost and everybody to be brought to repentance.
9.
The Day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then with a roar the sky will vanish, the elements will catch fire and melt away, the earth and all that it contains will be burned up.
10.
Since everything is coming to an end like this, what holy and saintly lives you should be living.
11.
While you wait for the Day of God to come, and try to hasten its coming: on that Day the sky will dissolve in flames and the elements melt in the heat.
12.
What we are waiting for, relying on his promises, is the new heavens and new earth, where uprightness will be at home.
13.
So then, my dear friends, while you are waiting, do your best to live blameless and unsullied lives so that he will find you at peace.
14.
Think of our Lord's patience as your opportunity to be saved; our brother Paul, who is so dear to us, told you this when he wrote to you with the wisdom that he was given.
15.
He makes this point too in his letters as a whole wherever he touches on these things. In all his letters there are of course some passages which are hard to understand, and these are the ones that uneducated and unbalanced people distort, in the same way as they distort the rest of scripture–to their own destruction.
16.
Since you have been forewarned about this, my dear friends, be careful that you do not come to the point of losing the firm ground that you are standing on, carried away by the errors of unprincipled people.
17.
Instead, continue to grow in the grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory, in time and eternity. Amen.
…………..
22.
'If anyone says to you then, “Look, here is the Christ,” or “Over here,” do not believe it.
23.
For false Christs and false prophets will arise and provide great signs and portents, enough to deceive even the elect, if that were possible.
24.
Look! I have given you warning.
25.
'If, then, they say to you, “Look, he is in the desert,” do not go there; “Look, he is in some hiding place,” do not believe it.
26.
Because the coming of the Son of man will be like lightning striking in the east and flashing far into the west.
27.
Wherever the corpse is, that is where the vultures will gather.
2Besee.Can you find anything what I have posted
contradictory to the scriptures?
If not;why warning your brothers not to see the truth?wakeup
Because, you take people away from true prophecy by causing a distraction, and causing them to look elsewhere, IMO.I could say more, but I won't.
For anyone with ears to hear:
World powers. Gathering up high. War.
Have a good day!
Hi Besee.All you have to do is study the prophesies,
and have your mind open,and believe what it says.Dont have your mind set like concrete,unless it is the truth.
If *you think*I am here to tell lies,then it is your job to expose the lies using scriptures.If you cant, then do not judge your brother with your opinion. Let the scriptures do the judging.
So far I have seen none,but your own opinion.wakeup.
Wakeup, I have quoted scriptures after scriptures to you, but you turned a blind eye.
The world will be burnt up with fire, only some will survive.
Right now »we should be watching Syria« …..the gathering world powers, and Russia.
I posted all of these as dreams on this forum. But you scoffed at them, on a separate thread, as did another member.
I tried to care in the beginning, wakeup.
Time is too short. it is running out.
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