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- November 24, 2007 at 9:43 am#72792StuParticipant
Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 24 2007,17:23) Stu,
I was a passenger on a horse. My friend Kathy was “driving.” We were going along nicely and the horse decided to stop. Kathy kicked it several times to make it walk. The horse reared up and we both slid off. Afterward, we saw a large piece of paper on the trial that spooked the horse. The horse “told us” there was something unusual on the trail that we needed to look out for. By ingnoring the horse, we ended up on the ground.This is an example of another story in Scripture. Animals can sense things before humans do.
I know of a cat that lives in a nursing home. It senses when a patient is dying. The cat goes to the room, curls up on the bed, and stays there until the person is gone. The people at the nursing home know now to call in the family when the cat refuses to leave the side of the patient.
Why would it seem so strange to you that a donkey can communicate, or a fish, or a bird etc..
YHWH made us all. Not one sparrow falls to the ground without Him knowing about it. Scripture says that animals know from where they get their food, and what the seasons are.
I have an unusual dog that looks heaven-ward, as if he is hearing a voice. He also watches television, as well my little dog.
My little dog barks at “scary” television, and animals on tv.
Of course animals have senses that reach beyond our own, for example bees seeing ultraviolet light or dogs that can be trained to smell on a person's breath molecules that are produced by someone with cancer, or bats using sound to “see” or reptiles showing sensitivity to the ground waves that may be produced in the lead-up to an earthquake.No these things don't seem strange to me and yes I think you are living in a fantasy world if you think donkeys and snakes have actually spoken a human language.
Stuart
November 25, 2007 at 5:29 am#72836LaurelParticipantIf the person understands the animal, then YES, even if in another language, they speak and are understood. Body language, or otherwise.
Animals speak to me. Many times I understand them. Don't you? I mean when a dog wags it's tail, it is telling you it is happy. There is nothing weird about that.
November 25, 2007 at 9:28 am#72881StuParticipantQuote (Laurel @ Nov. 25 2007,16:29) If the person understands the animal, then YES, even if in another language, they speak and are understood. Body language, or otherwise. Animals speak to me. Many times I understand them. Don't you? I mean when a dog wags it's tail, it is telling you it is happy. There is nothing weird about that.
I agree. That's not talking snakes or donkeys, though.Stuart
November 28, 2007 at 6:26 am#73299davidParticipantSTUE, I'm sorry that I met your sarcasm with patronising.
Quote I accept there could be a god, but the probability is vanishingly small. –stu
Really. And all this time we've been labeling you an athiest.
Quote You do not accept the possibility there is no god.
Only a foolish person would accept something they know to be untrue.November 28, 2007 at 8:27 am#73314StuParticipantQuote (david @ Nov. 28 2007,17:26) STUE, I'm sorry that I met your sarcasm with patronising. Quote I accept there could be a god, but the probability is vanishingly small. –stu
Really. And all this time we've been labeling you an athiest.
Quote You do not accept the possibility there is no god.
Only a foolish person would accept something they know to be untrue.
In case you missed my rambling post on the subject, 'being atheist' is the overall day-to-day practice I assume in the total absence of any evidence for Zeus (and some notable other gods). It only occurs to me to use the label as a result of someone proposing a religious belief in a deity. I would not normally define myself in terms of something that does not exist. My philosophical position is agnostic. It is the only honest position for anyone, because just as you cannot prove there is no god you also cannot prove there is one. All here may call themselves as certain of a god as I am certain that there is no such thing (remember I reject only one more god than you do), but we are all in this necessary sense, agnostic. Are you happy with that truth?With regard to foolishness and untruth, you must know everything that bears on your perception of this truth, then?
Stuart
December 3, 2007 at 9:32 pm#73865charityParticipantQuote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2007,19:27) Quote (david @ Nov. 28 2007,17:26) STUE, I'm sorry that I met your sarcasm with patronising. Quote I accept there could be a god, but the probability is vanishingly small. –stu
Really. And all this time we've been labeling you an athiest.
Quote You do not accept the possibility there is no god.
Only a foolish person would accept something they know to be untrue.
In case you missed my rambling post on the subject, 'being atheist' is the overall day-to-day practice I assume in the total absence of any evidence for Zeus (and some notable other gods). It only occurs to me to use the label as a result of someone proposing a religious belief in a deity. I would not normally define myself in terms of something that does not exist. My philosophical position is agnostic. It is the only honest position for anyone, because just as you cannot prove there is no god you also cannot prove there is one. All here may call themselves as certain of a god as I am certain that there is no such thing (remember I reject only one more god than you do), but we are all in this necessary sense, agnostic. Are you happy with that truth?With regard to foolishness and untruth, you must know everything that bears on your perception of this truth, then?
Stuart
from one God, came many gods, MAN made Images of thoughts amaginnations towards, his likeness and Nature
From Many gods, came many donomansnations?God is substance, things not seen, God is Love, if there is no Love seen.
yes, if you can't find your way back to making One Gods for all the living, recieve then the god of the dead, and destroy
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