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Quote If it was 'satan' speaking through the snake why would g-d make the poor snake suffer? Please. So it just happened to be a talking snake? To quote yourself: “Please.”
And I guess the snake understood what God was telling it. Again: “Please.”
GENESIS 3:15
“And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. HE will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.””I believe the “he” is the messiah that would bruise Satan in the head. (a deathblow)
GENESIS 22:18
“And by means of your seed [The messiah] all nations of the earth will certainly bless themselves due to the fact that you have listened to my voice.’””Quote (david @ Nov. 19 2007,21:14) Quote If it was 'satan' speaking through the snake why would g-d make the poor snake suffer? Please. So it just happened to be a talking snake? To quote yourself: “Please.”
And I guess the snake understood what God was telling it. Again: “Please.”
Allegory anyone? Please. Have you ever met a talking snake?
Quote GENESIS 3:15
“And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. HE will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.””I believe the “he” is the messiah that would bruise Satan in the head. (a deathblow)
You can believe all you want because it is necessary to have Jesus fulfill obscure prophecies that aren't even prophecies at all because he didn't fulfill a single messianic prophecy.
Quote GENESIS 22:18
“And by means of your seed [The messiah] all nations of the earth will certainly bless themselves due to the fact that you have listened to my voice.’””
'Seed' is plural no matter what the apostate Paul says. Show me where 'zera' is singular. Paul was grasping at straws just like the rest of his gang of deceivers.Quote Allegory anyone? Please. Have you ever met a talking snake? So, you're saying the snake never really existed? It was an allegory? Is that what you're saying? And that God was speaking to this allegory?
NUMBERS 22:22-30
“And the anger of God began to blaze because he was going; and Jehovah’s angel proceeded to station himself in the road to resist him. And he was riding upon his she-ass, and two attendants of his were with him. And the ass got to see Jehovah’s angel stationed in the road with his drawn sword in his hand; and the ass tried to turn aside from the road that she might go into the field, but Ba′laam began to strike the ass in order to turn her aside to the road. And Jehovah’s angel kept standing in the narrow way between the vineyards, with a stone wall on this side and a stone wall on that side. And the she-ass kept seeing Jehovah’s angel and began to squeeze herself against the wall and so to squeeze Ba′laam’s foot against the wall; and he went beating her some more. Jehovah’s angel now passed by again and stood in a narrow place, where there was no way to turn aside to the right or the left. When the ass got to see Jehovah’s angel she now lay down under Ba′laam; so that Ba′laam’s anger blazed, and he kept beating the ass with his staff. Finally Jehovah opened the mouth of the ass and she said to Ba′laam: “What have I done to you so that you have beaten me these three times?” At this Ba′laam said to the ass: “It is because you have dealt ruthlessly with me. If only there were a sword in my hand, for now I should have killed you!” Then the she-ass said to Ba′laam: “Am I not your she-ass that you have ridden upon all your life long until this day? Have I ever been used to do to you this way?” To which he said: “No!””I've never met a talking donkey before either, but the Bible says that this happened once.
Your allegory idea. Please explain what you believe actually happened.
David I like you, but I just can't understand why you have conversation with somebody that does not believe in our Savior Jesus Christ. Why is his opinion so important to you? As far as the snake is concerned are you are forgetting that it looked different before it gave the fruit to Eve?
Peace and Love Mrs.
Quote (Towshab @ Nov. 20 2007,14:57) Quote (david @ Nov. 19 2007,21:14) Quote If it was 'satan' speaking through the snake why would g-d make the poor snake suffer? Please. So it just happened to be a talking snake? To quote yourself: “Please.”
And I guess the snake understood what God was telling it. Again: “Please.”
Allegory anyone? Please. Have you ever met a talking snake?
Quote GENESIS 3:15
“And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. HE will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.””I believe the “he” is the messiah that would bruise Satan in the head. (a deathblow)
You can believe all you want because it is necessary to have Jesus fulfill obscure prophecies that aren't even prophecies at all because he didn't fulfill a single messianic prophecy.
Quote GENESIS 22:18
“And by means of your seed [The messiah] all nations of the earth will certainly bless themselves due to the fact that you have listened to my voice.’””
'Seed' is plural no matter what the apostate Paul says. Show me where 'zera' is singular. Paul was grasping at straws just like the rest of his gang of deceivers.
WHAT is A SERPENT…Playing around with the female to either win her mind, or destroy her soul!
knowing dame well ,it is just going to reek habit in the house of another man , if tempted enough she will eat the ways of a serpents knowlege.
And knowing dam well that what so ever she see fit to eat she will train up the children after that ways
Against the a Man in his own houseAnd dose a serpent promise also that we shall not die by eating? yes because it can talk!
Quote As far as the snake is concerned are you are forgetting that it looked different before it gave the fruit to Eve? –im4truth
Explain.
Quote Why is his opinion so important to you?
First, his opinion isn't that important to me. If I needed someone's opinion, I would most likely not ask people on this site for their opinion. And if it had to be someone on this site, it wouldn't be him.
But if you mean, why do I converse with him….it is because he needs the most help. Not that I believe he can be helped. I simply don't know. But what I do know, is that he is the most lost, the most deceived, the most in need of understanding and truth.I realize that Jesus said if someone doesn't listen to your message to shake the dust from your feet, move on to the next house or village….
But I'm not really engaged in the preaching work or the spreading of the good news of the kingdom on this site. (Mat 24:14) The other reason that I spend time talking with him, is because it makes me a stronger, more patient person.
Yes, there are certain people we should not talk to, according to the Bible–apostates for one. We shouldn't eat a meal, etc, with them, according to the Bible. An apostate is someone who was of your faith and then rebeled against it and is now speaking badly against those ones. Come to think of it, perhaps we shouldn't be engaging him. I generally view apostates to be ones of my religion who have done such. If a Catholic decides to become a Baptist then he is an apostate to the Catholic religion if he speaks badly against catholics. But he's not considered an apostate to Evangelicals, for example. So I'm not sure those scriptures would apply.
Quote David I like you, ahhhhh….
Quote (Towshab @ Nov. 20 2007,14:57) Have you ever met a talking snake?
I saw Benny Hinn on TV only a couple of weeks ago!Stuart
I will look for more, but here is a scripture that may apply (to stu as well):
2 TIMOTHY 2:16
“But shun empty speeches that violate what is holy; for they will advance to more and more ungodliness, and their word will spread like gangrene.Although not really in those conversations, stu apparently has been speaking in a way about God that apparently violates all that is holy and right.
We are to shun such speeches.
I should perhaps do some research on this.I believe Adam asked for the separation?
it has been made a statute and a “Ordinance” for Israel to observe
David retrieves even the faint of hearts wife?
No discharge from this battle 1Sa chapter 30, against the adversary1Sa 30:24 For who will hearken unto you in this matter? but as his part [is] that goeth down to the battle, so [shall] his part [be] that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike. 1Sa 30:25 And it was [so] from that day forward, that he made it a statute and an ordinance for Israel unto this day. 1Sa 30:26 ¶ And when David came to Ziklag, he sent of the spoil unto the elders of Judah, [even] to his friends, saying, Behold a present for you of the spoil of the enemies of the LORD;
Hi Not3in1 (or should I call you Mom?!)
Quote Are you both done beating your chests?
Well my avatar beats Towshab’s when it comes to chest beating!Quote Listen, I think it's pretty funny that you both (especially Stu) are even here, on a Christian site. 
Quote Stu has already said he is on no such mission. I guess he's here because he loves to hear about God. Maybe it's from guilt because he has walked away from God at some point in his life to pursue a homosexual lifestyle, (add tears rolling down)Quote But you both are fooling yourselves if hearing that God is a “Nasty” friend in the sky edifies anyone or makes anything “robust”! That is truly laughable. No, wait – that we are “running scared” is more laughable yet. (add running sound effects)Quote Those who live by faith will stand by faith. Don't puff up with pride too much to think you have shed any light on the universe and how God runs it. (add rolling on floor)C'mon Not3in1, you can spot a patsy question when you see one, even when it comes from as sophisticated a chest-beater as me!
Stuart
PROVERBS 11:9
“By [his] mouth the one who is an apostate brings his fellowman to ruin, but by knowledge are the righteous rescued.”Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2007,20:09) I will look for more, but here is a scripture that may apply (to stu as well): 2 TIMOTHY 2:16
“But shun empty speeches that violate what is holy; for they will advance to more and more ungodliness, and their word will spread like gangrene.Although not really in those conversations, stu apparently has been speaking in a way about God that apparently violates all that is holy and right.
We are to shun such speeches.
I should perhaps do some research on this.
It might be worth the kind of research that a small child does to find out where naval fluff comes from…unless you research the techniques cults use to brainwash their mental captives.Stuart
Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2007,20:18) PROVERBS 11:9
“By [his] mouth the one who is an apostate brings his fellowman to ruin, but by knowledge are the righteous rescued.”
This navel-gaze applies to Towshab (he can laugh at it for himself). I am not an apostate, although that is what I tell the JWs when they call. Please don't let on to them that I never believed!Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Nov. 20 2007,20:21) Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2007,20:09) I will look for more, but here is a scripture that may apply (to stu as well): 2 TIMOTHY 2:16
“But shun empty speeches that violate what is holy; for they will advance to more and more ungodliness, and their word will spread like gangrene.Although not really in those conversations, stu apparently has been speaking in a way about God that apparently violates all that is holy and right.
We are to shun such speeches.
I should perhaps do some research on this.
It might be worth the kind of research that a small child does to find out where naval fluff comes from…unless you research the techniques cults use to brainwash their mental captives.Stuart
Stu I wonder who did this to you, to be so angry with those that believe in God. You come here on a Christian Website and want to tell us what we should believe and on top of it you are being naughty. You make me sick.
Mrs.JUDE 8
“In like manner, notwithstanding, these men, too, indulging in dreams, are defiling the flesh and disregarding lordship and speaking abusively of glorious ones.”Imagine someone speaking abusively, of not just “glorious ones,” but of God. How should we view them?
“Do not be carried away with various and strange teachings.” (Hebrews 13:9)
What sort of teachings?
Since they can ‘carry us away,’ it is clear that Paul refers to teachings that undermine our spiritual balance.David states: “I have not sat with men of untruth; and with those who hide what they are I do not come in.” (Psalm 26:4)
We do well to take to heart the counsel of Proverbs 14:15:
“Anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps.”How, then, should we react to the voice of strangers?
“A stranger they will by no means follow but will flee from him.” (John 10:5)
“Keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them.” (Romans 16:17; Titus 3:10)
Quote (IM4Truth @ Nov. 20 2007,20:27) Quote (Stu @ Nov. 20 2007,20:21) Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2007,20:09) I will look for more, but here is a scripture that may apply (to stu as well): 2 TIMOTHY 2:16
“But shun empty speeches that violate what is holy; for they will advance to more and more ungodliness, and their word will spread like gangrene.Although not really in those conversations, stu apparently has been speaking in a way about God that apparently violates all that is holy and right.
We are to shun such speeches.
I should perhaps do some research on this.
It might be worth the kind of research that a small child does to find out where naval fluff comes from…unless you research the techniques cults use to brainwash their mental captives.Stuart
Stu I wonder who did this to you, to be so angry with those that believe in God. You come here on a Christian Website and ewant to tell us what we should believe and on top of it you are being nausty. You make me sick.
Mrs.
It is a surprise of nature that people believe things that can't be “seen”. It is a fact of humanity that many many people have fallen victim to the persuation of others. The Former German Chancellor with a toothbrush under his nose, Sun Moon, L. Ron Hubbard and to some extent the Dear Leader of North Korea all have people under their spell. Many christian evangelists would love to be included in this category. I don't claim to be able to do that to people but I know others can. Unlike these people I don't tell you what to believe, I just point out the things that are plainly ridiculous, and leave it to you whether you want to feel sick or not (assuming you have a choice about that; I do not wish sickness upon people).Stuart
Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2007,20:31) How, then, should we react to the voice of strangers? “A stranger they will by no means follow but will flee from him.” (John 10:5)
“Keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them.” (Romans 16:17; Titus 3:10)
Towshab said people were running scared. I didn't believe him at first, but you have shown me he is right!Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Nov. 20 2007,20:38) Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2007,20:31) How, then, should we react to the voice of strangers? “A stranger they will by no means follow but will flee from him.” (John 10:5)
“Keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them.” (Romans 16:17; Titus 3:10)
Towshab said people were running scared. I didn't believe him at first, but you have shown me he is right!Stuart
don;t trade your passion for glory yet!stuart mouse
Quote (charity @ Nov. 20 2007,20:57) Quote (Stu @ Nov. 20 2007,20:38) Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2007,20:31) How, then, should we react to the voice of strangers? “A stranger they will by no means follow but will flee from him.” (John 10:5)
“Keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them.” (Romans 16:17; Titus 3:10)
Towshab said people were running scared. I didn't believe him at first, but you have shown me he is right!Stuart
don;t trade your passion for glory yet!stuart mouse
It's an orangutan, not a mouse.Orangutan, “man of the forest”, sadly endangered because humans are destroying their habitat, the South-east Asian forest environment for which they are amazingly well adapted.
Just thought I would try and make this a bit more interesting…
Stuart
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