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  • #71983
    Samuel
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    People say the Wonderful message of Acts 2:38…ok…yeah thats good.

    But John 3:16 is Pretty good too.

    2 Cor 10:3
    For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

    Faith on Jesus Christ is the Rock on which thy foot needs to be planted.

    1 Peter 2:6
    Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

    Any spirit that says that JESUS did not come in the FLESH is the spirit of the ANTI-CHRIST! It says this in the bible right here:

    1 John 4:3
    And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

    Yeah its going to be hard to live for GOD:
    Matthew 7:13
    Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

    But some people try to make it impossible. Its not. JESUS made it very possible!
    Notice, how he kept saying “Ye of little Faith”…we are all guilty of this. And, you all know what i'm talking about ….when things start getting bad you start doubting…you let your faith drop. Like Peter did…when he was on the water walking to Jesus:

    Matthew 14 (21st Century King James Version)

    26And when the disciples saw Him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, “It is a spirit”; and they cried out for fear.

    27But straightway Jesus spoke unto them, saying, “Be of good cheer. It is I; be not afraid.”

    28And Peter answered Him and said, “Lord, if it be Thou, bid me come unto Thee on the water.”

    29And He said, “Come.” And when Peter had come down out of the boat, he walked on the water to go to Jesus.

    30But when he saw that the wind was boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, “Lord, save me!”

    31And immediately Jesus stretched forth His hand and caught him and said unto him, “O thou of little faith, why didst thou doubt?”

    32And when they had come into the boat, the wind ceased.

    33Then those who were in the boat came and worshiped Him, saying, “In truth Thou art the Son of God.”

    People build their Faith on things they believe they can find, or prove other people wrong on in the bible. You need not concern yourself with all these ravaging wolves. You just need to put your FAITH up on something thats not going to EVER be destroyed!…You need to build your house on the ROCK! The LORD JESUS CHRIST. I promise you no ones ever going to PROVE JESUS wrong…and if they try to …that is the spirit of ANTI-CHRIST!

    #71984
    Samuel
    Participant

    Proverbs 3:26
    6 For the LORD shall be thy confidence, and shall keep thy foot from being taken.

    #71985
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Samuel @ Oct. 23 2007,18:11)
     I promise you no ones ever going to PROVE JESUS wrong…and if they try to …that is the spirit of ANTI-CHRIST!


    Samuel,

    What value is there in faith if the faithful are going to demonise those who challenge it?

    Stuart

    #71986
    Not3in1
    Participant

    Stu,
    Can you challenge something you cannot see, touch, taste, smell or hear? :)

    #71987
    Samuel
    Participant

    well you can challenge it all you want I suppose…I mean there is nothing stopping you …at least not at the moment.

    No one is going to force you to believe something…well…except for the devil…he would force you to believe their is no GOD or Jesus Christ.

    But there is going to come a day when everyone is going to have to bow confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

    #71988
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 24 2007,06:52)
    Stu,
    Can you challenge something you cannot see, touch, taste, smell or hear?  :)


    Neuroscientists can see a picture of your brainwaves on a screen when they wire you up and show you, say, devotional images or read prayers. The faith is in the communication between neurons. My challenge to you is to demonstrate that there is anything more to it than that.

    Stuart

    #71989
    Not3in1
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 24 2007,18:40)

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 24 2007,06:52)
    Stu,
    Can you challenge something you cannot see, touch, taste, smell or hear?  :)


    Neuroscientists can see a picture of your brainwaves on a screen when they wire you up and show you, say, devotional images or read prayers.  The faith is in the communication between neurons.  My challenge to you is to demonstrate that there is anything more to it than that.

    Stuart


    Stu,

    You are wanting to capture air and pin it down. It cannot be done. Neither can you monitor or graph-out faith.

    Mandy

    #71990
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 24 2007,19:11)

    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 24 2007,18:40)

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 24 2007,06:52)
    Stu,
    Can you challenge something you cannot see, touch, taste, smell or hear?  :)


    Neuroscientists can see a picture of your brainwaves on a screen when they wire you up and show you, say, devotional images or read prayers.  The faith is in the communication between neurons.  My challenge to you is to demonstrate that there is anything more to it than that.

    Stuart


    Stu,

    You are wanting to capture air and pin it down.  It cannot be done.  Neither can you monitor or graph-out faith.

    Mandy


    Hi Not3in1

    I am interested to follow research on this issue. Separated twin studies indicate (it is more anecdotal than statistical) that there is a genetic component to having religious faith. You may know of such studies in which identical twins adopted to different families are reunited later in life and show striking parallels in the lives they have led and the choices they made. Religious devotion would seem to be one of those “coincidences” in such people.

    The name “God Gene” has been proposed for the presence of a factor that may influence the kinds of thoughts and emotions people interpret as religious experience.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_gene

    There are early days, but scientists are indeed beginning to “capture and pin down air”.

    Stuart

    #71991

    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 25 2007,07:09)

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 24 2007,19:11)

    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 24 2007,18:40)

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 24 2007,06:52)
    Stu,
    Can you challenge something you cannot see, touch, taste, smell or hear?  :)


    Neuroscientists can see a picture of your brainwaves on a screen when they wire you up and show you, say, devotional images or read prayers.  The faith is in the communication between neurons.  My challenge to you is to demonstrate that there is anything more to it than that.

    Stuart


    Stu,

    You are wanting to capture air and pin it down.  It cannot be done.  Neither can you monitor or graph-out faith.

    Mandy


    Hi Not3in1

    I am interested to follow research on this issue.  Separated twin studies indicate (it is more anecdotal than statistical) that there is a genetic component to having religious faith.  You may know of such studies in which identical twins adopted to different families are reunited later in life and show striking parallels in the lives they have led and the choices they made.  Religious devotion would seem to be one of those “coincidences” in such people.

    The name “God Gene” has been proposed for the presence of a factor that may influence the kinds of thoughts and emotions people interpret as religious experience.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_gene

    There are early days, but scientists are indeed beginning to “capture and pin down air”.

    Stuart


    stu

    Even if they were to “pin it down”, they still wouldnt know where it comes from or where it is going.

    They can only guess!

    Jn 3:8 NASB
    The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit.

    :D

    #71992
    Not3in1
    Participant

    Indeed, WJ, this was the very scripture that I had in mind when I posted earlier to Stuart. Thanks for sharing it.

    Stu, there will always be mysteries that the human mind is not able to wrap itself around. Faith is one of these.

    #71993
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 25 2007,08:18)
    Indeed, WJ, this was the very scripture that I had in mind when I posted earlier to Stuart.  Thanks for sharing it.

    Stu, there will always be mysteries that the human mind is not able to wrap itself around.  Faith is one of these.


    Those who say never are very often interrupted by the news that it has been done. You cannot prove or disprove gods but you can demonstrate a biochemical cause for a behaviour.

    Of course there are plenty of people who will prefer to hide heads in the sand and resolutely embrace false mysticism for whatever reasons they need to, even in the face of clear and unambiguous evidence.

    Stuart

    #71994
    Not3in1
    Participant

    Stu,
    The evidence you speak of is not “clear and unambiguous”.  Do you know how I know this?  Because you are here…….searching.

    Those who are content with the “evidence” of evolution and science do not participate in Christian blog sites.  On the contrary, they seem to be smug and full of themselves, and only seek to teach/convince other's of what they know.  This is not you, my friend.

    If having one's head in the sand is a sign of faith then I am spitting sand from my mouth as we speak!  :laugh:

    #71995
    Samuel
    Participant

    See thats the thing…the basis of the whole belief STU.

    FAITH

    Its a Walk-by-FAITH Because you have not seen or reaped the reward yet.

    Kind of like when you set up a Date with someone that you've never been out with before. You go on FAITH that they are who they say they are and that they WILL be there like they said they were going to be.

    There is a host of things that people do by FAITH every single day…yeah…I'm talking about people that don't even believe in GOD…they do things for whom every or what ever quite a lot through out their life …just on GOOD FAITH! So, I really have a hard time why the like to criticize people that live for GOD by FAITH. Cause at this point since we all know that you can't PROVE that GOD don't exist…your actually just making fun of people that serve him as an act of FAITH. Which really just makes you a hypocrite.

    But, I'm still going to pray for you…I already have. I really like you…I get this vibe that your actually a very good person. GOD just needs to “Shake” you up a little bit…so that you might get some FAITH.

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