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on the sabath your neighbor nocks on your door and says can you help me my house is on fire!!!,do you tell him ,well me can help you tomarrow . he says my kids are in there!!! do you say,well we will pray for them to get out, when the sabath is not kept in love its not kept at all!!!!
Quote (michaels @ Aug. 20 2007,14:19) on the sabath your neighbor nocks on your door and says can you help me my house is on fire!!!,do you tell him ,well me can help you tomarrow . he says my kids are in there!!! do you say,well we will pray for them to get out, when the sabath is not kept in love its not kept at all!!!!
OH how wonderful are the children of God.
Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,22:11) Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 20 2007,14:05) They ate of necessity. When Yashua healed on the sabbath, he saved a life. When your “ox was in the ditch” (you chose to work on a Sabbath), was this an absolute necessity?
Did the apostle know which day was the preparation day and that according to the letter they should have gathered twice as much? When Jesus healed a cripple on the Sabbath He couldn't wait one more day? No He healed the cripple on the Sabbath to show how to keep the Sabbath.The Sabbath was made for man NOT man for the Sabbath. It is GOOD to do good on the Sabbath.
The Spirit knows what you should AND should not do on the Sabbath.
gathering manna was a time consumeing thing,this is why he said prepair the day ahead,the diciple's had nothing and no place to prepair,and there is no work in pulling an apple off a tree and eating it.or any other food GOD gave us. GOD's law only says dont work,but rest!! moses law took the joy out of GODS law of rest.with lots of stipulations.Quote (michaels @ Aug. 20 2007,14:36) Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,22:11) Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 20 2007,14:05) They ate of necessity. When Yashua healed on the sabbath, he saved a life. When your “ox was in the ditch” (you chose to work on a Sabbath), was this an absolute necessity?
Did the apostle know which day was the preparation day and that according to the letter they should have gathered twice as much? When Jesus healed a cripple on the Sabbath He couldn't wait one more day? No He healed the cripple on the Sabbath to show how to keep the Sabbath.The Sabbath was made for man NOT man for the Sabbath. It is GOOD to do good on the Sabbath.
The Spirit knows what you should AND should not do on the Sabbath.
gathering manna was a time consumeing thing,this is why he said prepair the day ahead,the diciple's had nothing and no place to prepair,and there is no work in pulling an apple off a tree and eating it.or any other food GOD gave us. GOD's law only says dont work,but rest!! moses law took the joy out of GODS law of rest.with lots of stipulations.
We must remember the people of the Old Testament still had sin. The animal sacrifices did NOT FORGIVE sin. This is why we are so blessed to be under the New Covenant for the FORGIVENESS of our sin. So we can receive the Holy Spirit for guidance.How do we keep the Sabbath? We keep the Sabbath in the Spirit.
IHN&L,
Ken
Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 19 2007,21:11) Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 20 2007,14:05) They ate of necessity. When Yashua healed on the sabbath, he saved a life. When your “ox was in the ditch” (you chose to work on a Sabbath), was this an absolute necessity?
Did the apostle know which day was the preparation day and that according to the letter they should have gathered twice as much? When Jesus healed a cripple on the Sabbath He couldn't wait one more day? No He healed the cripple on the Sabbath to show how to keep the Sabbath.The Sabbath was made for man NOT man for the Sabbath. It is GOOD to do good on the Sabbath.
The Spirit knows what you should AND should not do on the Sabbath.
So riding your motorcycle or working on the Sabbath is good? Who is it good for, God or you?As far as gathering before the Sabbath, both Yahshua and the Apostles were nomadic in their ministry. They had no place to store food save their pockets or bags.
Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 19 2007,21:11) Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 20 2007,14:05) They ate of necessity. When Yashua healed on the sabbath, he saved a life. When your “ox was in the ditch” (you chose to work on a Sabbath), was this an absolute necessity?
Did the apostle know which day was the preparation day and that according to the letter they should have gathered twice as much? When Jesus healed a cripple on the Sabbath He couldn't wait one more day? No He healed the cripple on the Sabbath to show how to keep the Sabbath.
This is not a good comparison. Yashua was often on the move. He might not be in the same place the next day.Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,13:41) Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 20 2007,12:39) Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,12:36) To be honest (and I'm always honest) You couldn't keep the Sabbath, not spiritually anyway because your heart is not in it.
No one knows the heart of another man.Brother, you are not able to look past the critical pettiness of it all, and that is sad. You have missed an opportunity to teach and to share what you know to an open mind and heart.
No but the Spirit does.And I told you what I do on the Sabbath lines up with scripture and the Spirit.
How about the “any day” sabbath you keep? Tell me what do YOU do on your sabbath?
I gave you scripture. You reject it to “do your thing the any day thing” THAT'S what is SAD.
I can see past your pettiness I see the root of it all. You don't want to know the true Sabbath you want to argue to keep your sabbath.
But I am curious just what do you do on your any day sabbath?
Ken,I'm not sure why you are all upset and accusatory with me? Can you tell me what I have done to deserve this behavior from you? Will you review my posts and site places where I have been combative with you? I have been challenging your beliefs and I have been asking sincere questions. I'm not sure where you are coming from and why you are on the defense?
As to my Sabbath day, I'm not sure why you are attacking me? Can you site where I have told you that I keep “any day” as the Sabbath? I don't remember saying that. I am, however, trying to dig through all of your defensiveness to find some teaching and decided for myself what I believe. Goodness, brother……..try to stop being so defensive for a moment and realize I am trying to understand what you believe and ask questions. If I can't get solid answers from you without being attacked, I will drop this subject with you alltogether, which I have seen other brother's and sister's finally do with you as well.
I have reviewed the bulk of your responses to me – they are 90% defensive reactions and 10% teaching and answering my questions. Help me out here…..
Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 20 2007,14:50) Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 19 2007,21:11) Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 20 2007,14:05) They ate of necessity. When Yashua healed on the sabbath, he saved a life. When your “ox was in the ditch” (you chose to work on a Sabbath), was this an absolute necessity?
Did the apostle know which day was the preparation day and that according to the letter they should have gathered twice as much? When Jesus healed a cripple on the Sabbath He couldn't wait one more day? No He healed the cripple on the Sabbath to show how to keep the Sabbath.The Sabbath was made for man NOT man for the Sabbath. It is GOOD to do good on the Sabbath.
The Spirit knows what you should AND should not do on the Sabbath.
So riding your motorcycle or working on he Sabbath is good? Who is it good for, God or you?As far as gathering before the Sabbath, both Yahshua and the Apostles were nomadic in their ministry. They had no place to store food save their pockets or bags.
I follow the Spirit. When i was riding the motorcycle I was lead too. Riding in the country is getting out of the cement jungle seeing and smelling God's creation on the day He created to fellowship with him.If that were the case (and I don't know one way or another) then why did the Pharisees accuse them of breaking the Sabbath.
Why did Jesus delebertly heal the cripple on the Sabbath. Why did Jesus say the the Sabbath was for man and it was good to do good on the Sabbath.
It was GOOD for me to get out and take a ride…get out the house and in “God's” country.
BTW I have never been lead to do that again, YET
I don't work on the Sabbath! Riding that bike on that PARTICULAR Sabbath was not work. But of course If “I” would have decided to go for a ride without being lead too then I would have been breaking the Sabbath according to the Spirit.
Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,13:41) You don't want to know the true Sabbath you want to argue to keep your sabbath.
This is what is sad, Ken – I don't even keep a Sabbath right now. Not because, as you say, I want to keep my own day or keep it in my own way……I don't know when or how to keep the Sabbath! I am TRYING to learn about the true Sabbath. If you would actually read my posts, you would see that.Instead of trying to answer my questions and challenges, you are accusing God's children and judging another man's heart. You're not even listening to me.
Read my posts everywhere……you will see I am trying to figure this whole thing out.
Why would I want to “argue to keep my Sabbath” when I am only learning what this means? Good grief.
Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 20 2007,15:07) Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,13:41) You don't want to know the true Sabbath you want to argue to keep your sabbath.
This is what is sad, Ken – I don't even keep a Sabbath right now. Not because, as you say, I want to keep my own day or keep it in my own way……I don't know when or how to keep the Sabbath! I am TRYING to learn about the true Sabbath. If you would actually read my posts, you would see that.Instead of trying to answer my questions and challenges, you are accusing God's children and judging another man's heart. You're not even listening to me.
Read my posts everywhere……you will see I am trying to figure this whole thing out.
Why would I want to “argue to keep my Sabbath” when I am only learning what this means? Good grief.
How can you hear when all you want to do is argue. You have to take a first step then worry about HOW to keep the Sabbath.
Would you be doing anything wrong by keeping the seventh day of God?
what is a any day sabath, is this a new teaching from the anti christ,for even jesus kept the sabath,yet most cant see this,they say well he worked,just because he had compasion and love for his brothers,jesus taught us that the sabath without love,is not keeping the sabath at all,but to not keep the sabath at all,with an any day sabath,is not to love,for GOD is love,and if you break one commandment you break them all,dont lead the children astray in this path,for GOD never changes,and we need to honor the sabath,to keep it in love for GOD, and our brothers and sisters.
Quote (michaels @ Aug. 20 2007,15:16) what is a any day sabath, is this a new teaching from the anti christ,for even jesus kept the sabath,yet most cant see this,they say well he worked,just because he had compasion and love for his brothers,jesus taught us that the sabath without love,is not keeping the sabath at all,but to not keep the sabath at all,with an any day sabath,is not to love,for GOD is love,and if you break one commandment you break them all,dont lead the children astray in this path,for GOD never changes,and we need to honor the sabath,to keep it in love for GOD, and our brothers and sisters.
OH! How wonderful are the children of GodQuote (michaels @ Aug. 20 2007,15:28) me love you to though ,ken
I know you do mike you love everybody!We can learn from that kind of love.
Especially ME!
Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,15:11) Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 20 2007,15:07) Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,13:41) You don't want to know the true Sabbath you want to argue to keep your sabbath.
This is what is sad, Ken – I don't even keep a Sabbath right now. Not because, as you say, I want to keep my own day or keep it in my own way……I don't know when or how to keep the Sabbath! I am TRYING to learn about the true Sabbath. If you would actually read my posts, you would see that.Instead of trying to answer my questions and challenges, you are accusing God's children and judging another man's heart. You're not even listening to me.
Read my posts everywhere……you will see I am trying to figure this whole thing out.
Why would I want to “argue to keep my Sabbath” when I am only learning what this means? Good grief.
How can you hear when all you want to do is argue. You have to take a first step then worry about HOW to keep the Sabbath.
Would you be doing anything wrong by keeping the seventh day of God?
Arguing beliefs versus challenging beliefs – there is a difference.No matter. I will learn about the Sabbath from someone else. I will study on my own and depend on the Spirit.
Thanks anyway, Ken. God bless you and yours.
Hi All:
I'd like to give you my understanding relative to the Sabbath:
The scripture states:
Quote Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. God tells us here that we and those who are employed in our work including our animals should rest on the seventh day after six consequtive days of work after the example that he gave us when he created the heavens and the earth and all of its host.
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Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created F9 and made.
In Exodus 16 God made manna come down from heaven for the people of the Nation of Israel and he commanded them as follows:
Quote Exodus 16
1And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt.2And the whole congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness:
3And the children of Israel said unto them, Would to God we had died by the hand of the LORD in the land of Egypt, when we sat by the flesh pots, and when we did eat bread to the full; for ye have brought us forth into this wilderness, to kill this whole assembly with hunger.
4Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.
5And it shall come to pass, that on the sixth day they shall prepare that which they bring in; and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily.
6And Moses and Aaron said unto all the children of Israel, At even, then ye shall know that the LORD hath brought you out from the land of Egypt:
7And in the morning, then ye shall see the glory of the LORD; for that he heareth your murmurings against the LORD: and what are we, that ye murmur against us?
8And Moses said, This shall be, when the LORD shall give you in the evening flesh to eat, and in the morning bread to the full; for that the LORD heareth your murmurings which ye murmur against him: and what are we? your murmurings are not against us, but against the LORD.
9And Moses spake unto Aaron, Say unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, Come near before the LORD: for he hath heard your murmurings.
10And it came to pass, as Aaron spake unto the whole congregation of the children of Israel, that they looked toward the wilderness, and, behold, the glory of the LORD appeared in the cloud.
11And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
12I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel: speak unto them, saying, At even ye shall eat flesh, and in the morning ye shall be filled with bread; and ye shall know that I am the LORD your God.
13And it came to pass, that at even the quails came up, and covered the camp: and in the morning the dew lay round about the host.
14And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground.
15And when the children of Israel saw it, they said one to another, It is manna: for they wist not what it was. And Moses said unto them, This is the bread which the LORD hath given you to eat.
16This is the thing which the LORD hath commanded, Gather of it every man according to his eating, an omer for every man, according to the number of your persons; take ye every man for them which are in his tents.
17And the children of Israel did so, and gathered, some more, some less.
18And when they did mete it with an omer, he that gathered much had nothing over, and he that gathered little had no lack; they gathered every man according to his eating.
19And Moses said, Let no man leave of it till the morning.
20Notwithstanding they hearkened not unto Moses; but some of them left of it until the morning, and it bred worms, and stank: and Moses was wroth with them.
21And they gathered it every morning, every man according to his eating: and when the sun waxed hot, it melted.
22And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
23And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
24And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein.
25And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
26Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
27And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.
28And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
29See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
30So the people rested on the seventh day.
31And the house of Israel called the name thereof Manna: and it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey.
32And Moses said, This is the thing which the LORD commandeth, Fill an omer of it to be kept for your generations; that they may see the bread wherewith I have fed you in the wilderness, when I brought you forth from the land of Egypt.
33And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a pot, and put an omer full of manna therein, and lay it up before the LORD, to be kept for your generations.
34As the LORD commanded Moses, so Aaron laid it up before the Testimony, to be kept.
35And the children of Israel did eat manna forty years, until they came to a land inhabited; they did eat manna, until they came unto the borders of the land of Canaan.
This was done apparently to test them to see if they would obey his commandments or not and also, to demonstrate that He was their God and could and would provide for them even in the wilderness if they would obey his commandments.
I asked Ken and Laurel if there was any scripture to state that this seven day period coincided with the seven day period in which God c
reated the heavens and the earth, and Laurel responded that she knew that it was the same seven day period by Faith, but there is nothing in the scriptures that state that this is a fact. And I do not believe that it is the specific day that matters but the principle of working six consequtive days and resting on the seventh.Another reason is added for keeping the Forth Commandment after the Exodus from Egypt as follows:
Quote 12Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee. 13Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:
14But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
15And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day
In addition to following the example that God rested in the creation on the seventh day. God showed that we should rest on the seventh day to show that we trust in his provision, and to commemorate our freedom from slavery to sin, and if we have employees we should also allow them to rest on the seventh day rembering that they were in bondage to Paroah.
These commandments were given to the Nation of Israel. Should we as born again Christians obey the Forth commandment. I believe that the answer to this question is emphatically, of course. Jesus is our example of how to live in right standing with God, and he said:
Quote 23 And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn. 24 And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful? 25 And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him? 26 How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him? 27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. If Jesus indicated that the sabbath was made for man, then it is God's intention for him to rest on the seventh day. Again, I believe that it is the principle that man should rest from his labor on the seventh day following six consequtive days of work.
And Jesus said:
Quote 35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Jesus also said:
Quote John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments The Apostle Paul states:
Quote 3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. 5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. 6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. And so, we obey God's commandments out of our Love for Him and for our Lord Jesus.
Someone, I think Nick, asked: how does obeying the forth commandment show our love for God?
Our purpose as God's children is to glorify him in the earth through all that we do in this body. When our bodies and our mental and emotional faculties are rested we can be more efficient in doing this. Also, If we go to church on this day, we can worship God with fellow believers, and we can be instructed from God's Word. We as fellow believers can encourage one another, comfort one another, and pray for one another.
God says this regarding going to church:
Quote 23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) 24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. I commend those who are striving to obey the Commandment's that have come to us from God through our Lord Jesus. If they believe that they should obey the forth commandment on Saturday, then that is what they should do. Again, I believe that it is the principle of resting on the seventh day after working six consequtive days that matters and not keeping a specific day. In the society that I live the work week starts on Monday and so the seventh day for me is Sunday. God knows the motives and the intent of the heart. Jesus said: “If you love me, keep my commandments”, and I do love him and so I do strive to obey.
Quote Romans 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not F55 to doubtful disputations. 2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded F56 in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth F57 the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. 7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's. 9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living. 10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?
for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. 13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 19 2007,22:04) I follow the Spirit. When i was riding the motorcycle I was lead too. Riding in the country is getting out of the cement jungle seeing and smelling God's creation on the day He created to fellowship with him.
You couldn't view His creation on another day of the week?Quote If that were the case (and I don't know one way or another) then why did the Pharisees accuse them of breaking the Sabbath.
They were hungry and needed to preserve their strength so that they could serve the Master. Therefore, by eating, they were able to continue to minister.Quote Why did Jesus delebertly heal the cripple on the Sabbath. Why did Jesus say the the Sabbath was for man and it was good to do good on the Sabbath.
Healing was a selfless act. Riding your motorycle helped no one but yourself. Not selfless.Quote It was GOOD for me to get out and take a ride…get out the house and in “God's” country.
Good for you, or good for God? How was it good for God?Quote BTW I have never been lead to do that again, YET I don't work on the Sabbath! Riding that bike on that PARTICULAR Sabbath was not work. But of course If “I” would have decided to go for a ride without being lead too then I would have been breaking the Sabbath according to the Spirit.
I cannot find it right now because we don't have a good search function on this forum, but I do recall you speaking of a time you told your supervisor you would work on the Sabbath. You said your statement to him was that your “ox was in the ditch”.Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 20 2007,23:31) Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,15:11) Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 20 2007,15:07) Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,13:41) You don't want to know the true Sabbath you want to argue to keep your sabbath.
This is what is sad, Ken – I don't even keep a Sabbath right now. Not because, as you say, I want to keep my own day or keep it in my own way……I don't know when or how to keep the Sabbath! I am TRYING to learn about the true Sabbath. If you would actually read my posts, you would see that.Instead of trying to answer my questions and challenges, you are accusing God's children and judging another man's heart. You're not even listening to me.
Read my posts everywhere……you will see I am trying to figure this whole thing out.
Why would I want to “argue to keep my Sabbath” when I am only learning what this means? Good grief.
How can you hear when all you want to do is argue. You have to take a first step then worry about HOW to keep the Sabbath.
Would you be doing anything wrong by keeping the seventh day of God?
Arguing beliefs versus challenging beliefs – there is a difference.No matter. I will learn about the Sabbath from someone else. I will study on my own and depend on the Spirit.
Thanks anyway, Ken. God bless you and yours.
you say, you will learn from someone elts,this is about the sadest thing me have heard yet,for we only have one teacher ,the spirit of TRUTH.if you have been looking to ken or any man instead of GOD ,this is wrong.let the TRUTH lead you into all TRUTH,just seek him ,.and ask him in ,and he will never lead you astray for he is the TRUTH!!!!Good advice, Michaels – thank you!
However, we all learn from one another. If you feel you have nothing to learn, I believe this too is sad. Some are given the gift of teaching. Do the teachers have no one to instruct?
I guess I am slower to learn than most and need some instruction as well as leaning on my heavenly Father. Thanks for understanding and having patience with those who are of the weaker faith!
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