Righteousified is the true 'verb' in greek

[Ed J]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 11 2010,00:49)

Ed: You say to me that I want total freedom so I can sin. TK

Hi Tim,

Did you not say you believed adultery was OK?

Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 11 2010,08:46)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2010,07:07) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 11 2010,00:49) Ed: “In religion, or man made indoctrinated knowledge, man is DRIVEN forward in the pursuit of God, powered by FEAR!! In FAITH, revelation knowledge, man is ALLURED to find his Father of Love to BECOME MORE LIKE HIM.” You say to me that I want total freedom so I can sin. I say my total freedom in Christ inhances my desire to express the love of my father to you and everyone else. You have written previously that you believe you are still in sin and under the law. Or shall I change that statement to you say we are not sinless and must follow the law. One who says they are in sin and under the law have denied the work of Jesus which was to fulfill the law and put away sin forever. Jesus brought peace and joy to the new dispensation. Wrath and destruction are still on whosoever believes in the law and sin. There is no sin apart from the law. When the law came sin came. Jesus, the word of God, the holy spirit is  here, now, as a two edged sword, cutting away the chaff(those who refuse salvation) to be gathered and burned, while leaving THE WHEAT TO BE KEPT & STORED! Some body should look and see who remains on this earth. Every parable of Jesus says the good/righteous/believers/peacemakers will remain. There are some powerful doctrines being passed in religious circles that say different. The true Kingdom of God, the church made without hands, the body of Christ REMAIN ON THE EARTH!!! The meek inherit the earth. TK Hi Tim, Did you even read this thread or better yet, do you even consider what I tell you? (John 15:18-22) John 15:18: If the world hate you(Ed J), ye know that it hated me(Jesus) before it hated you. If ye(Ed J) were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye(Ed J) are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember The Word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me(Jesus), they will also persecute you(Ed J); if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not Him (YHVH) that sent me. If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not [known] sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin. Faithing (in Greek) is a verb, rather than a Noun. The ADC's of Faithing are… A) Action B) Based upon belief C) Sustained by confidence God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed: (1) If you care to know the truth of the scriptures you quoted you would see that “the world” that Jesus is talking about is the Jewish, religious world order of that time. He was talking about the Jews/church under the law. Your not chosen out of the church order of that time, (2)you demand to be in the law and sin. If you were out of the religious order of that time or the law and sin then the religious world would hate you like it hated Jesus. If the religious ones persecuted (3)Jesus for his new age teachings, then they will persecute you. (4)I have kept the saying of Jesus and held fast to them. It is you that percutes me, calling me stupid and other things. I just agree with Jesus, he came to save the world from sin, he did that, he took away the sin of the world, he did that. (5)You are the one that says sin is still here. You are the one that say the law is still in effect. If you will go on over to John 15:25 you will see who the world is that Jesus is talking about. “It is written in their law”! And again in 16:2,—“They shall put you out of the synagogues”—that was the religious hierarchy not the outside world. (6)Where do you get the idea that you are not of the Jewish religion with the law and the prophets and sin still in effect? Do you now deny you are under the law. (7)Do you now agree you have no sin or you do sin. Which is it? Your not being persecuted for righteousness sake. (8)You disagree that we are righteous, holy, perfect, unblemished, and sinless before God through Jesus. Your doctrines are commonly accepted among church goers. Universal sin consciousness.  TK

Hi Tim,

Do you see that I give you Scriptural references for EVERY BULLET POINT?
                   Please Click on each Bible Reference!

1) All sinners want to excuse their sin, but yet continue sinning! Is this your aim too? (John 15:22)

2) I see your sill spouting LIES! (Ex.20:16 / Deut.5:20)

3) Jesus did NOT teach 'New Age Philosophy'! YOU DO. (Gal.1:9)

4) Jesus taught to follow his Father's commandments! Something you reject. (Matt.7:21)

5) Do you believes that the muslims who are killing the Christians are NOT SINNING? (1John 3:15)
    Do you know the difference between between “God's commandments” and religious ceremonies?
    Or the difference between “Good” and 'evil' even for that matter?? (Hebrews 5:12-14)

6) Ah, dah, um, have you ever heard the NEW term “Christian”? (Mark 14:24 / Hebrews 8:10)

7) Are you suffering from amnesia again?
    I have told you many times now, I have stopped sinning a long time ago! (1John 5:18)

8) You are only righteous if you STOP SINNING! (1John 3:4)

Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

[Tim Kraft]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2010,15:38)

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 11 2010,00:49) Ed: You have written previously that you believe you are still in sin… TK Hi Tim, What is your purpose in spouting LIES? Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed: If it is written anywhere that I believed I was in sin, show it to me! It would have been a major mistake. My entire belief system is built on Jesus completely paving the way for each person by

completely washing them or baptising them with his words from God, hence the baptism of the spirit.
Jesus cleaned us with his word, now you are clean.John15:3–
Jesus saved my soul. Jesus saved me from sin or darkness!
Jesus has chosen and ordainded each of us John15:16—

Jesus sent us all out to spread the gospel, good news of total salvation from sin and gave us the power (the annointing of Christ) to do the works of God. Any moron can go out and do

nice things for people and that is good, but it is not healing the sick, casting out deceptive lies (devils) and raising people up from sin and death to new life in Christ. That is the resurrection. Jesus, the truth, is the resurrection to new life.

YOU CAN'T BE “IN” SIN IF SIN IS SOMETHING YOU DO!!
Jesus could not take away sin if sin is something you freely choose to do.

Jesus could not take away the sin of the world if sin was referring to what people do or don't do.

Jesus took away wrong thinking! Jesus came to give the truth. People were in darkness, didn't understand, lost from the truth, no light, in error/sin!

Mans original sin IMO, was believing that he was bad and certain things he did could be sin. Man believed in evil which caused him to create ideas that he deemed sinful or against

God. With evil came judgment as to good or bad, right or wrong. With judgment came sin or wrong doing. With sin man began to feel like he was falling away from God. God didn't move, man moved away in his mind, wrong thinking.

There was no mention of sin in the Garden of Eden. Sin came after man had chosen to accept evil as part of life. Sin came from man feeling alienated from God. Mankind has taken sin

and run with it for thousands of years by creating religion that is based on sin.
If mankind returns to a forgiven, peaceful, cleansed, loving, mind through Christ he cant sin. When you feel love you want

to express love. When you are having a good time in laughter and fun you can not dwell on killing or hurting anyone. The mind dictates the desires. A sin consciousness will create

more sin! A pure clean loving mind of Christ will produce love feelings for all. IMO, TK

[Tim Kraft]

Hey Ed: The religious hierarchy of Jesus' time called him a liar and hated him for telling them these same things. If these are not truth, show me where I am wrong. I am always ready to learn. I have no ties, and no doctrines that I won't willingly cast away to find the truth. If they are the truth, why do you not listen and believe. Wide is the gate to destruction. Narrow is the gate to eternal life and few there are that find it. The masses are wrong Ed. IMO, TK

[Ed J]

Hi Tim,

Your thinking is seriously off! I'll explain.
The Bible mentions the we are “Predestined”.
I'll give you an analogy, since you reject Scripture.

Let's say I predestined you to go with me to Disneyland,
unless agree to go and actually go, my offer is useless to you.

This is how Jesus has “taken” away the sin of the world!
The muslims reject Jesus' offer, and thus they are still in sin.
This is evident because they're killing anyone who doesn't
agree WITH THEIR FAULTY THINKING! (James 2:26 / 1John 3:4)
Their actions are SIN; and therefore there wages are death! (1John 3:15)

PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION…
So in conclusion the question I ask you, Tim Kraft…
James 2:14: What doth it profit, my brethren,
though a man (Tim Kraft) say he hath faith,
and have not works? can faith save him?

Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 11 2010,20:34)

Ed: Jesus took away wrong thinking! TK

Hi Tim,

That certainly isn't the case with you yet!

Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 11 2010,20:48)

Hey Ed: …show me where I am wrong. I am always ready to learn. TK

Hi Tim,

I have been showing you! (Click Here)

Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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