Revelation 4 and 5. explained.

[NickHassan]

Hi j42,
110.Ezekiel 34:18
Is it too slight a thing for you that you should feed in the good pasture, that you must tread down with your feet the rest of your pastures? Or that you should drink of the clear waters, that you must foul the rest with your feet?

[journey42]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2014,12:36)

Hi J42, Sheep should not be offered poisoned food. Take care with the scriptures

Nick

You are still doing it. Accusing of the poison. Point out where the poison is, if you really care about warning your brothers, or else they will be grasping at straws.

[NickHassan]

Hi J42,
Only scripture deserves our full trust.
The rest of the offerings need checking

[NickHassan]

Hi j42,
.John 10:9
I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

[journey42]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2014,12:54)

Hi j42, 110.Ezekiel 34:18 Is it too slight a thing for you that you should feed in the good pasture, that you must tread down with your feet the rest of your pastures? Or that you should drink of the clear waters, that you must foul the rest with your feet?

Nick

Do you know what you are quoting? To you this is a little dig, but to me this means so much more.
I will have to explain this chapter to you now, before I ask you to explain it, and you be naked.

Ezekiel 34:1   And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

Ezekiel 34:2   Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?
Those in charge of ISRAEL have NOT been teaching their people the ways of God.  This is a shepherds job.

Ezekiel 34:3   Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock.
These shepherds of Israel, have fed themselves of the nice material things, they are warm physically, but have not fed their sheep with the things of God.

Ezekiel 34:4   The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.
Israel's people have turned away from God.  Their leaders have not corrected them, to turn their children back who are SPIRITUALLY sick, bound, lost.  But with FORCE & CRUELTY, they have ruled over them.  They have FORCE FED THEM LIES.  IMPRISONED THEM. CRUELTY!

Ezekiel 34:5   And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered.
They had no one to lead them.

Ezekiel 34:6   My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.
They were utterly lost, spiritually, and dispersed throughout all the nations.  None went looking for them.  They were forgotten.

Ezekiel 34:7   Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
Listen you shepherds of ISRAEL

Ezekiel 34:8   As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;
Just repeating again what God said before. ….because of this crime.

Ezekiel 34:9   Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
And hear all you shepherds what I will do…

Ezekiel 34:10   Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.
I am AGAINST YOU shepherds of ISRAEL.  I will collect my Flock at YOUR HAND, (your doings, your punishment) and cause them to stop feeding of you (LISTEN TO YOU)  God will deliver HIS FLOCK from their mouth, because Israel are holding their people prey, and the leaders will not feed on their people anymore. (be food for them, because these leaders have gotten very rich of them, used them for excuses, for extortion etc)

Ezekiel 34:11   For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.
Israel's sheep are not forgotten by the Lord, he will search for them instead.

Ezekiel 34:12   As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.
After their darkest day, Armageddon, God will come to their rescue, and will gather them all, from not only Israel, but from all over the worlld.

Ezekiel 34:13   And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.
This is it.  The place we have preaching about.  The kingdom area that Christ will set up in Israel.  He will chose the remnant, and bring them back to life to live in their own land.  There God will FEED THEM WITH TRUTH.

Ezekiel 34:14   I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and in a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel.
They will be well fed upon the HIGH MOUNTAINS OF ISRAEL.
Mt Moriah, Mt of Olives,  Holy Jerusalem.

Ezekiel 34:15   I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord GOD.
They will have rest.

Ezekiel 34:16  I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.
On this day, the wicked leaders of Israel will be punished with judgement, whilst the lost sheep will be saved.

Ezekiel 34:17   And as for you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I judge between cattle and cattle, between the rams and the he goats.
Little flock – true believers who followed Christ.  
God will judge between Cattle and Cattle (christians amongst christians) the reaping,
and rams and the he goats. (separating the goats from the sheep)

Ezekiel 34:18   Seemeth it a small thing unto you to have eaten up the good pasture, but ye must tread down with your feet the residue of your pastures? and to have drunk of the deep waters, but ye must foul the residue with your feet?
Seems a small thing to you ISRAEL? that you have destroyed the good pasture, (the truth) and then destroy the residue of your pastures – all traces of truth….this they have fouled with their feet (trodden on the truth)

Ezekiel 34:19   And as for my flock, they eat that which ye have trodden with your feet; and they drink that which ye have fouled with your feet.
You have caused my flock to have eaten contaminated food, and fouled drink (lies)…
Now think of this;
Israel's leaders, the Zionists, have even deceived the whole christian world into believing all the lies of the holocaust.  We were deceived, but because of the grace of God, he has revealed to us their
deception. No longer are we deceived.

Ezekiel 34:20   Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle.
The fat cattle are those who got FAT with material things.  The lean cattle are those who were starving because they were not fed with truth.

Ezekiel 34:21   Because ye have thrust with side and with shoulder, and pushed all the diseased with your horns, till ye have scattered them abroad;
Because of YOU, shepherds of Israel…

Ezekiel 34:22   Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
God's flock will no more be a prey for them to get fat on material things (greed, lust, power, riches), and God will judge between cattle and cattle – ISRAEL.  The good and the bad.

Ezekiel 34:23   And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.
When God mentions David, he is talking about Christ.  Christ shall feed them, but cannot do so until he destroys babylon first, and binds the strong man (Satan)

Ezekiel 34:24   And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.
The Prince of Peace comes.

Ezekiel 34:25   And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods.
God will make a new covenant with them, and drive out all the wicked from Israel.

Nick,

[NickHassan]

Hi j42,
The job of a shepherd is to lead the sheep to good pasture and watch over them.
Somehow you always put TEACHING KNOWLEDGE in there

Now you are coming right

“There God will FEED THEM WITH TRUTH.”

But
“Ezekiel 34:20 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle.
The fat cattle are those who got FAT with material things. The lean cattle are those who were starving because they were not fed with truth. “

Where is the consistency
?
Somehow fat and thin are based on different concepts-
1 truth and
2 material goods

God does not confuse

[journey42]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2014,14:02)

Hi j42, The job of a shepherd is to lead the sheep to good pasture and watch over them. Somehow you always put TEACHING KNOWLEDGE in there Now you are coming right “There God will FEED THEM WITH TRUTH.” But “Ezekiel 34:20   Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle. The fat cattle are those who got FAT with material things.  The lean cattle are those who were starving because they were not fed with truth. “ Where is the consistency ? Somehow fat and thin are based on different concepts- 1 truth and 2 material goods God does not confuse

Nick

God is speaking of ISRAEL in that chapter.
He will judge between ISRAEL. This is a different judgement.
They are the cattle.
The fat cattle are fat because they have only fed themselves …with material things. NOT TRUTH. NOT GOD, but feeding ON SATAN'S IDEALS. They are FAT because of what they took from the world. All the nice things. They did not feed the sheep with teachings of God. They left the sheep devoid of truth. Those thin cattle are STARVING. Not for material things, but for truth. When you STARVE, you get sicknesses, and disease. They were not shepherd right, they were not taught KNOWLEDGE OF GOD. I can't help it if you cannot see a difference. It's the way God explains it.

Ezekiel 34:2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?

[NickHassan]

Hi J42,
Wisdom is better food.
Scripture is the wisdom of God

Not just knowledge

23.Luke 11:49
For this reason also the wisdom of God said, ‘I will send to them prophets and apostles, and some of them they will kill and some they will persecute,

[Wakeup]

Nick.

Psalms 139:6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it.

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

Proverbs 10:14 Wise men lay up knowledge: but the mouth of the foolish is near destruction.

wakeup.

[journey42]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2014,14:43)

Hi J42, Wisdom is better food. Scripture is the wisdom of God Not just knowledge 23.Luke 11:49 For this reason also the wisdom of God said, ‘I will send to them prophets and apostles, and some of them they will kill and some they will persecute,

Nick

Wisdom, knowledge, and understanding are all in the same category.

1 Corinthians 12:8   For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

Ephesians 1:17   That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Colossians 3:16   Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom;…. teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

Luke 24:45   Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

Ephesians 1:18   The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

Philippians 4:7   And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

Colossians 1:9   For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;

[NickHassan]

Hi J42,
Do you know what a word of wisdom and a word of knowledge are?
They are spiritual gifts and different to what you see.

jesus used all the gifts

A word of knowledge was given to him when with the woman at the well telling him how often she had been married.

[NickHassan]

Hi J42,
The fact that the three words are all spoken in the scriptures you offered shows they are all different.
seek wisdom-jas 1
Knowledge can be a vanity

[journey42]

Nick

All come from the same spirit.  You are just clutching at straws now.

We can't have understanding, unless we are given knowledge first.
Information first (knowledge) = holy scriptures
Comprehension (understanding) = of the holy scriptures
Applying to ones walk in every decision (wisdom) = fruits of the spirit

Understand?

[NickHassan]

Hi J42,
No just showing you what scripture says.

Repentance is just awareness of our dangerous situation not knowledge of the future

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