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Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 21 2012,16:29) “And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.” How this three unclean spirits (spirit of demons) went to the Kings and of the world?
How the Kings and the world to be gathered for the battle against the great day of Almighty God?
As we have learned, the whole world is under the wisdom of Satan. (the whole world deceived by satan).
Limjunus.Satans last empire will consist of 10 kings working in harmony.
The rest of the kingdoms are also evil kingdoms but not under control of the 10 kings,untill the mark has been made compulsory.sample: the muslem kingdoms are a seperate kingdom.
The 3 spirits like frogs; is just to show John with his EYES, how they come out of their mouths;Just as the dove going into Jesus,this is just to show the EYES that the holy spirit went into Jesus.
This does not mean that the holy spirit is a dove,does it?
The 3 spirits will stirrup up all these kingdoms to come together to war against the Prince of Princess.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 27 2012,21:22) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 27 2012,16:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 27 2012,14:03) EdJ. Please answer:
Did king Constantine teach islam? y/n?
No of course not: so how can the ottoman empire come out of the roman empire?
This is the big twist to make your doctrine work.1. how can a muslem base empire come out of a christian base empire? What have the christian teachings got to do with mohamads teachings?
Can hindus teach budhism?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, your questions here are convoluted.The Roman empire was the Sixth world Empire.
The Ottoman Empire was the Seventh Empire.
And Muhammadin-islam is the Eighth Empire.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.Here again, a big skip and a big twist,to make this doctrine work.Dont you know that the scriptures can not be broken?
Dan.ch.2:40–43.
1. The legs of the image is IRON.(roman).y/n?2. The feet of the image is also IRON,but mixed with clay;but the IRON is still in it.(roman).y/n?
3. The toes is also IRON,but mixed with clay,
but the IRON is still in it(roman).y/n?Dan.7:19.the dreadful beast with teeth of IRON and nails of BRASS.
IRON(roman): BRASS(greece). The two merging,becoming the one empire; the ROMAN EMPIRE.7:22. UNTILL THE ANCIENT OF DAYS CAME, AND JUDGEMENT WAS GIVEN TO THE SAINTS OF THE MOST HIGH. is this not the second coming?
VERSE 24. The 10 horns mentioned: just as rev.17:12.16.(a conglomeration of 10 kings,all in the same time period).not hundreds of years apart.
————————————————————–1. Where does the ottoman empire fit in with the IRON?
2. How many kings were ruling in this ottoman empire?
Is Saladin not ONE KING?
You must stay with scriptures: horns=kings.(period).
DONT START MIXING UP SYMBOLS.THE MUSLEM EMPIRE DOES NOT FIT IN WITH THE IRON.
SO DOES THE MONGOLIAN EMPIRE OR ANY OTHER EMPIRES.(the iron=roman).It is all ROMAN FROM THE LEGS TO THE VERY END.
The 6th is roman; the 7th(today) is roman; and the 8th(coming) is also roman.The last beast with the 10 horns is the END TIME ROMAN EMPIRE; and this is the empire that the f.proph.will rule. He will cause tribulations on this earth for only 3/half yrs. ONLY 3/HALF YRS.ONLY 3/HALF YRS.
Be strong all; for the son of perdition is coming soon.EXERCISE YOUR MINDS.
And only in the Lord will we find refuge.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,The Babylonian statue was knocked down by a stone made
without hands; the stone being the emergence of Christianity.But Revelation paints a bigger picture (showing a seven headed dragon),
going back in time to the Egyption Empire (first) and forward to the Ottoman
empire (seventh) and culminating with Muhammadin-islam, the Eighth world Empire.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMt 25:1 “At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.
Mt 25:2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise.
Mt 25:3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them.
Mt 25:4 The wise, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps.
Mt 25:5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.
Mt 25:6 “At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’
Mt 25:7 “Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps.
Mt 25:8 The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’
Mt 25:9 “ ‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’
Mt 25:10 “But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shuthow come that the wise ones send the foolish ones to the store to buy some oil for their lamps just before the coming of Christ
Hi Pirerre,
“The oil” represents the “HolySpirit” and
'them that sell' represents the systems of religion.They wanted their own hand strengthened by fellow believers
the same way the systems of religion strengthened them.
(to those who have ears to hear – understand.)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ Sep. 27 2012,22:41) Mt 25:1 “At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.
Mt 25:2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise.
Mt 25:3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them.
Mt 25:4 The wise, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps.
Mt 25:5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.
Mt 25:6 “At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’
Mt 25:7 “Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps.
Mt 25:8 The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’
Mt 25:9 “ ‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’
Mt 25:10 “But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shuthow come that the wise ones send the foolish ones to the store to buy some oil for their lamps just before the coming of Christ
Because the five have fallen asleep near the coming;and they are still asleep at the coming.There is no time to catch up it is too late for them.These are they that will be shut out of the kingdom.
These are they that will be taught by the JEWS in the 1000yr reign.But they will be outside the kingdom.wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 27 2012,22:15) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 27 2012,21:22) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 27 2012,16:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 27 2012,14:03) EdJ. Please answer:
Did king Constantine teach islam? y/n?
No of course not: so how can the ottoman empire come out of the roman empire?
This is the big twist to make your doctrine work.1. how can a muslem base empire come out of a christian base empire? What have the christian teachings got to do with mohamads teachings?
Can hindus teach budhism?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, your questions here are convoluted.The Roman empire was the Sixth world Empire.
The Ottoman Empire was the Seventh Empire.
And Muhammadin-islam is the Eighth Empire.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.Here again, a big skip and a big twist,to make this doctrine work.Dont you know that the scriptures can not be broken?
Dan.ch.2:40–43.
1. The legs of the image is IRON.(roman).y/n?2. The feet of the image is also IRON,but mixed with clay;but the IRON is still in it.(roman).y/n?
3. The toes is also IRON,but mixed with clay,
but the IRON is still in it(roman).y/n?Dan.7:19.the dreadful beast with teeth of IRON and nails of BRASS.
IRON(roman): BRASS(greece). The two merging,becoming the one empire; the ROMAN EMPIRE.7:22. UNTILL THE ANCIENT OF DAYS CAME, AND JUDGEMENT WAS GIVEN TO THE SAINTS OF THE MOST HIGH. is this not the second coming?
VERSE 24. The 10 horns mentioned: just as rev.17:12.16.(a conglomeration of 10 kings,all in the same time period).not hundreds of years apart.
————————————————————–1. Where does the ottoman empire fit in with the IRON?
2. How many kings were ruling in this ottoman empire?
Is Saladin not ONE KING?
You must stay with scriptures: horns=kings.(period).
DONT START MIXING UP SYMBOLS.THE MUSLEM EMPIRE DOES NOT FIT IN WITH THE IRON.
SO DOES THE MONGOLIAN EMPIRE OR ANY OTHER EMPIRES.(the iron=roman).It is all ROMAN FROM THE LEGS TO THE VERY END.
The 6th is roman; the 7th(today) is roman; and the 8th(coming) is also roman.The last beast with the 10 horns is the END TIME ROMAN EMPIRE; and this is the empire that the f.proph.will rule. He will cause tribulations on this earth for only 3/half yrs. ONLY 3/HALF YRS.ONLY 3/HALF YRS.
Be strong all; for the son of perdition is coming soon.EXERCISE YOUR MINDS.
And only in the Lord will we find refuge.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,The Babylonian statue was knocked down by a stone made
without hands; the stone being the emergence of Christianity.But Revelation paints a bigger picture (showing a seven headed dragon),
going back in time to the Egyption Empire (first) and forward to the Ottoman
empire (seventh) and culminating with Muhammadin-islam, the Eighth world Empire.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Can you please stay on the subject and explain.
Is the iron also the ottoman empire?wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 27 2012,23:10) EDJ. Is the iron also the ottoman empire?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,No
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgPierre
Quote how come that the wise ones send the foolish ones to the store to buy some oil for their lamps just before the coming of Christ They were supposed to get their oil ready way before the bridegroom came, not on the day
Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
There is a cut off day, and it happens before the 7 trumpets start blowing. So we have to get the oil NOW.
Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 27 2012,21:16) It does this so that no one may buy or sell unless he has the brand, which is the beast’s name or the number of its name. (Ref: Rev. 13:17 GW) It is not literally “commerce”. The statement is metaphorically spoken. We need to figure it out not through the commercial of the world literally but spiritually.
The “marks with their right hands and their foreheads” are not literally for business commercial as what you have think.
It is the beliefs that they could not trade with the other beliefs. Their people could not interchanges it with the other people with the marks of their right hands and with their foreheads. Except you leave their kingdom and find another but you could not bring their spiritual merchandise, the marks of the beast.
Got my point?
Quote Concrete example: Do you agree to take their belief, the marks in the right hands and in the forehead with out joining them? You could not buy anything from their religious merchandises without having their marks. You must be one of them or else no business to be done with you.
Not everything brought will be religious merchandise. People have to buy food and pay bills. This is everyday life, and a necessity to stay alive.
If we don't get the mark, then we cannot do business, like buy or sell ANYTHING
So the saints who refuse will go without, and many will starve, and be homeless, and be branded “rebels” for not conforming to this new system,
and you need the physical mark to be part of this new system,
because there will be NO MORE CASH. Just a number to ID everyone, and it will contain all your details, even your bank a/c will be linked to this number.
Just wave your hand through the scanner to prove it's you,
and bingo, transaction approved.
The technology is already built and waiting to go.
Think of all the crime it will eliminate.
No more fraud, no more robberies, or hold ups
no more black market, or drug lords
no more illegal immigrants working for cash,
every move you will ever make will be traced,
where you brought your food,
where you brought you petrol,
you can never hide from them,
if you are a criminal, or even an honest personand the true believers are prepared to take whatever persecutions arise for not accepting this man who enforces this mark,
and this system,
even if it means risking their lives, so that you can know about it.
for we are all being watched and our conversations monitored.Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
Matthew 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 28 2012,00:15) Not everything brought will be religious merchandise. People have to buy food and pay bills. This is everyday life, and a necessity to stay alive.
If we don't get the mark, then we cannot do business, like buy or sell ANYTHING
So the saints who refuse will go without, and many will starve, and be homeless, and be branded “rebels” for not conforming to this new system,
and you need the physical mark to be part of this new system,
because there will be NO MORE CASH.
Hi Georgie,That is exactly what is being done in muslim countries today.
“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man;
and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” (Rev 13:17-18)Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 28 2012,00:25) Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 28 2012,00:15) Not everything brought will be religious merchandise. People have to buy food and pay bills. This is everyday life, and a necessity to stay alive.
If we don't get the mark, then we cannot do business, like buy or sell ANYTHING
So the saints who refuse will go without, and many will starve, and be homeless, and be branded “rebels” for not conforming to this new system,
and you need the physical mark to be part of this new system,
because there will be NO MORE CASH.
Hi Georgie,That is exactly what is being done in muslim countries today.
“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man;
and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” (Rev 13:17-18)Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Hi Ed,The beast and the false prophet have not come yet,
You will know when they come.
The beast first,
then shortly after, their leader ….the false prophet
They come soon,
so remember our conversations.limjunus,Sep. wrote:[/quote]
Limjunus,There is just one huge problem with your adopted doctrine…
You say:
Quote The marks could be seen physically in the acts or gesture of the people with a direct relation to their religious beliefs. Firstly:
The bible says mark of the beast, NOT “marks” of the beast.
We can not add to scripture.
Secondly:
Here you are saying it is the peoples personal religious choices that “brand” them with the mark.
Scripture says different:
Rev 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.So you see, the people can not be “branded” by their own religious choices/beliefs as you are saying, because it is that man in the above scripture who is marking them! And marking them with one universal mark..not “marks”.
Really, that scripture alone destroys this whole doctrine you have embraced.Quote Commercial literally is out of the line. Because everybody in this world were connected to the human system in the world of commerce. We are discussing the spiritual matters involving beliefs/ religious ideas. We need to look at the bigger picture here brother.
Just how long do you think your body can survive with it's religious ideas & spiritual matters without food, shelter, water, clothing etc?
How can you maintain your religion without nourishment?
You can not, you would die.
And this is what Satan knows all too well…threaten a mans life and he will give away all his substance to save it.Since you are not expecting a physical mark, but have accepted & adopted this doctrine in it's place, then you will indeed take this mark when it is released, because you say it is metaphoric….
thus when you do take this mark, and save your life, you can carry on discussing matters of spirituality in a new light…in the light of what could very well become your new found future doctrine….the marvelous words coming out of the false prophets mouth!Quote False doctrines and religious beliefs belong to the demons spirits. Brother, you do not realize how this looks.
What you are preaching here is a religious belief.
I have heard this argument before Limjunus, and it is from some American evangelical group…born-agains i think? And this teaching goes against nearly two thousand years worth of mutual agreement concerning the marks physicality.
Again i say, it is not surprising to see this doctrine being pushed at the same time the technology being developed to bring in this personal mark is advancing rapidly.Quote Now, we need to figure it out very carefully in the light of the words of God. Yes Lumjunus, we do.
And adopting a doctrine that looks credible does not fulfill this requirement…no matter which “Christian” organization is pushing it!!Jesus said, “come learn of Me”, he did not say go join a church of your choice and adopt their doctrines.
We are to seek for ourselves first, only then will we be able to hear the Shepherds voice.Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 27 2012,23:06) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 27 2012,22:41) Mt 25:1 “At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.
Mt 25:2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise.
Mt 25:3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them.
Mt 25:4 The wise, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps.
Mt 25:5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.
Mt 25:6 “At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’
Mt 25:7 “Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps.
Mt 25:8 The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’
Mt 25:9 “ ‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’
Mt 25:10 “But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shuthow come that the wise ones send the foolish ones to the store to buy some oil for their lamps just before the coming of Christ
Because the five have fallen asleep near the coming;and they are still asleep at the coming.There is no time to catch up it is too late for them.These are they that will be shut out of the kingdom.
These are they that will be taught by the JEWS in the 1000yr reign.But they will be outside the kingdom.wakeup.
The enough oil representing the “works for the Lord”.23. His lord said unto him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. Thou hast been faithful over a few things; I will make thee ruler over many things. Enter thou into the joy of thy lord.’ (Ref: Matthew 25:23 NKJV)
The short of oil is representing the lacks of works for the Lord.
26. His lord answered and said unto him, ‘Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strewed.
The denial of the Groom to the virgins bride no enough oil is representing the condemnation.
30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
Quote (Devolution @ Sep. 28 2012,01:08) limjunus,Sep. wrote:[/quote]
Limjunus,There is just one huge problem with your adopted doctrine…
You say:
Quote The marks could be seen physically in the acts or gesture of the people with a direct relation to their religious beliefs. Firstly:
The bible says mark of the beast, NOT “marks” of the beast.
We can not add to scripture.
Secondly:
Here you are saying it is the peoples personal religious choices that “brand” them with the mark.
Scripture says different:
Rev 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.So you see, the people can not be “branded” by their own religious choices/beliefs as you are saying, because it is that man in the above scripture who is marking them! And marking them with one universal mark..not “marks”.
Really, that scripture alone destroys this whole doctrine you have embraced.Quote Commercial literally is out of the line. Because everybody in this world were connected to the human system in the world of commerce. We are discussing the spiritual matters involving beliefs/ religious ideas. We need to look at the bigger picture here brother.
Just how long do you think your body can survive with it's religious ideas & spiritual matters without food, shelter, water, clothing etc?
How can you maintain your religion without nourishment?
You can not, you would die.
And this is what Satan knows all too well…threaten a mans life and he will give away all his substance to save it.Since you are not expecting a physical mark, but have accepted & adopted this doctrine in it's place, then you will indeed take this mark when it is released, because you say it is metaphoric….
thus when you do take this mark, and save your life, you can carry on discussing matters of spirituality in a new light…in the light of what could very well become your new found future doctrine….the marvelous words coming out of the false prophets mouth!Quote False doctrines and religious beliefs belong to the demons spirits. Brother, you do not realize how this looks.
What you are preaching here is a religious belief.
I have heard this argument before Limjunus, and it is from some American evangelical group…born-agains i think? And this teaching goes against nearly two thousand years worth of mutual agreement concerning the marks physicality.
Again i say, it is not surprising to see this doctrine being pushed at the same time the technology being developed to bring in this personal mark is advancing rapidly.Quote Now, we need to figure it out very carefully in the light of the words of God. Yes Lumjunus, we do.
And adopting a doctrine that looks credible does not fulfill this requirement…no matter which “Christian” organization is pushing it!!Jesus said, “come learn of Me”, he did not say go join a church of your choice and adopt their doctrines.
We are to seek for ourselves first, only then will we be able to hear the Shepherds voice.
Devo,It is not new adopted doctrines of mine and it is not big or huge problem with me. May be for you?
Rev 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.As what I have post. It is not literally worldly commercial business. The “trade” mentioned in Revelation is having a religious business, meaning, spiritual beliefs; exclusively with them with the mark in their right hand and their foreheads.
Look at the Christian world. Is there a religious group in global proportion having the mark in their right hand and in their foreheads?
These people with the mark in their right hand and in their foreheads could not trade their religious beliefs to the other religious groups, except you join with their ranks and received the mark of the Beast with your right hand and with your foreheads.
The mark is invisible but you can see it with your two eyes through their physical movement; concentrate with the right hand and the foreheads; it is the wonder signs made by the spirits of the demon. While you have seen the marks/ signs (by the right hand and the foreheads), Simultaneously, you can hear uttering the name of the Beast.
Pray for the guidance of the Lord God, so that you can figure it out in accordance with His guiding spirit.
Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 28 2012,00:49) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 28 2012,00:25) Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 28 2012,00:15) Not everything brought will be religious merchandise. People have to buy food and pay bills. This is everyday life, and a necessity to stay alive.
If we don't get the mark, then we cannot do business, like buy or sell ANYTHING
So the saints who refuse will go without, and many will starve, and be homeless, and be branded “rebels” for not conforming to this new system,
and you need the physical mark to be part of this new system,
because there will be NO MORE CASH.
Hi Georgie,That is exactly what is being done in muslim countries today.
“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man;
and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” (Rev 13:17-18)Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Hi Ed,The beast and the false prophet have not come yet,
You will know when they come.
The beast first,
then shortly after, their leader ….the false prophet
They come soon,
so remember our conversations.
Ed j,The 666 is the number of a man.
How can figure it out with the Prophet Muhammad of Islam?
The book of Quo'ran is not the number of a man.
Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 28 2012,01:45) Quote (Devolution @ Sep. 28 2012,01:08) Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 27 2012,21:00)
Limjunus,There is just one huge problem with your adopted doctrine…
You say:
Quote The marks could be seen physically in the acts or gesture of the people with a direct relation to their religious beliefs. Firstly:
The bible says mark of the beast, NOT “marks” of the beast.
We can not add to scripture.
Secondly:
Here you are saying it is the peoples personal religious choices that “brand” them with the mark.
Scripture says different:
Rev 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.So you see, the people can not be “branded” by their own religious choices/beliefs as you are saying, because it is that man in the above scripture who is marking them! And marking them with one universal mark..not “marks”.
Really, that scripture alone destroys this whole doctrine you have embraced.Quote Commercial literally is out of the line. Because everybody in this world were connected to the human system in the world of commerce. We are discussing the spiritual matters involving beliefs/ religious ideas. We need to look at the bigger picture here brother.
Just how long do you think your body can survive with it's religious ideas & spiritual matters without food, shelter, water, clothing etc?
How can you maintain your religion without nourishment?
You can not, you would die.
And this is what Satan knows all too well…threaten a mans life and he will give away all his substance to save it.Since you are not expecting a physical mark, but have accepted & adopted this doctrine in it's place, then you will indeed take this mark when it is released, because you say it is metaphoric….
thus when you do take this mark, and save your life, you can carry on discussing matters of spirituality in a new light…in the light of what could very well become your new found future doctrine….the marvelous words coming out of the false prophets mouth!Quote False doctrines and religious beliefs belong to the demons spirits. Brother, you do not realize how this looks.
What you are preaching here is a religious belief.
I have heard this argument before Limjunus, and it is from some American evangelical group…born-agains i think? And this teaching goes against nearly two thousand years worth of mutual agreement concerning the marks physicality.
Again i say, it is not surprising to see this doctrine being pushed at the same time the technology being developed to bring in this personal mark is advancing rapidly.Quote Now, we need to figure it out very carefully in the light of the words of God. Yes Lumjunus, we do.
And adopting a doctrine that looks credible does not fulfill this requirement…no matter which “Christian” organization is pushing it!!Jesus said, “come learn of Me”, he did not say go join a church of your choice and adopt their doctrines.
We are to seek for ourselves first, only then will we be able to hear the Shepherds voice.
Devo,It is not new adopted doctrines of mine and it is not big or huge problem with me. May be for you?
Rev 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.As what I have post. It is not literally worldly commercial business. The “trade” mentioned in Revelation is having a religious business, meaning, spiritual beliefs; exclusively with them with the mark in their right hand and their foreheads.
Look at the Christian world. Is there a religious group in global proportion having the mark in their right hand and in their foreheads?
These people with the mark in their right hand and in their foreheads could not trade their religious beliefs to the other religious groups, except you join with their ranks and received the mark of the Beast with your right hand and with your foreheads.
The mark is invisible but you can see it with your two eyes through their physical movement; concentrate with the right hand and the foreheads; it is the wonder signs made by the spirits of the demon. While you have seen the marks/ signs (by the right hand and the foreheads), Simultaneously, you can hear uttering the name of the Beast.
Pray for the guidance of the Lord God, so that you can figure it out in accordance with His guiding spirit.
Limjunus.You are following a deadly path.
It will cost you your soul.Need to read rev.ch.18.carefully.God took all the time listing all the goods that man is trading in; this is nothing spiritual,but material. and the number is physical. The rfid. is physical.It is here.
Dont fall for that delusion that the number is spiritual,and you can take the chip; for that is Gods will for us to obey.These people have been paid big money to preach that.Dont just follow.
wakeup.
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Limjunus,There is just one huge problem with your adopted doctrine…
You say:
Quote The marks could be seen physically in the acts or gesture of the people with a direct relation to their religious beliefs. Firstly:
The bible says mark of the beast, NOT “marks” of the beast.
We can not add to scripture.
Secondly:
Here you are saying it is the peoples personal religious choices that “brand” them with the mark.
Scripture says different:
Rev 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.So you see, the people can not be “branded” by their own religious choices/beliefs as you are saying, because it is that man in the above scripture who is marking them! And marking them with one universal mark..not “marks”.
Really, that scripture alone destroys this whole doctrine you have embraced.Quote Commercial literally is out of the line. Because everybody in this world were connected to the human system in the world of commerce. We are discussing the spiritual matters involving beliefs/ religious ideas. We need to look at the bigger picture here brother.
Just how long do you think your body can survive with it's religious ideas & spiritual matters without food, shelter, water, clothing etc?
How can you maintain your religion without nourishment?
You can not, you would die.
And this is what Satan knows all too well…threaten a mans life and he will give away all his substance to save it.Since you are not expecting a physical mark, but have accepted & adopted this doctrine in it's place, then you will indeed take this mark when it is released, because you say it is metaphoric….
thus when you do take this mark, and save your life, you can carry on discussing matters of spirituality in a new light…in the light of what could very well become your new found future doctrine….the marvelous words coming out of the false prophets mouth!Quote False doctrines and religious beliefs belong to the demons spirits. Brother, you do not realize how this looks.
What you are preaching here is a religious belief.
I have heard this argument before Limjunus, and it is from some American evangelical group…born-agains i think? And this teaching goes against nearly two thousand years worth of mutual agreement concerning the marks physicality.
Again i say, it is not surprising to see this doctrine being pushed at the same time the technology being developed to bring in this personal mark is advancing rapidly.Quote Now, we need to figure it out very carefully in the light of the words of God. Yes Lumjunus, we do.
And adopting a doctrine that looks credible does not fulfill this requirement…no matter which “Christian” organization is pushing it!!Jesus said, “come learn of Me”, he did not say go join a church of your choice and adopt their doctrines.
We are to seek for ourselves first, only then will we be able to hear the Shepherds voice.
Devo,It is not new adopted doctrines of mine and it is not big or huge problem with me. May be for you?
Rev 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.As what I have post. It is not literally worldly commercial business. The “trade” mentioned in Revelation is having a religious business, meaning, spiritual beliefs; exclusively with them with the mark in their right hand and their foreheads.
Look at the Christian world. Is there a religious group in global proportion having the mark in their right hand and in their foreheads?
These people with the mark in their right hand and in their foreheads could not trade their religious beliefs to the other religious groups, except you join with their ranks and received the mark of the Beast with your right hand and with your foreheads.
The mark is invisible but you can see it with your two eyes through their physical movement; concentrate with the right hand and the foreheads; it is the wonder signs made by the spirits of the demon. While you have seen the marks/ signs (by the right hand and the foreheads), Simultaneously, you can hear uttering the name of the Beast.
Pray for the guidance of the Lord God, so that you can figure it out in accordance with His guiding spirit.
Limjunus.You are following a deadly path.
It will cost you your soul.Need to read rev.ch.18.carefully.God took all the time listing all the goods that man is trading in; this is nothing spiritual,but material. and the number is physical. The rfid. is physical.It is here.
Dont fall for that delusion that the number is spiritual,and you can take the chip; for that is Gods will for us to obey.These people have been paid big money to preach that.Dont just follow.
wakeup.
Wakeup,You should wake up from sleeping.
Read:
[/B]The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived. 24And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth.”The light of the lamp represent the words of God.
The Bridegroom represent Jesus Christ
The Bride represent the church.There are some real merchandise literally but you can not set aside the spiritual merchandise involving the souls of the human being because of the demon doctrines. (Ref: 1 Tim. 4:1-4 NKJV)
Frankly speaking, the 666 is the title of one head of the professing Christian religious group. (Vicarives Filii Dei=666), and the mark with their right hand and their foreheads is the “signs of the cross” of the Catholics by making the mark/signs by only their right hand an
d it should landed first in their foreheads. … In addition to it, read the 1 Tim 4:1-4 NKJV. The Roman (Babylon) Catholic Church is having the doctrines of the demons.1. Forbidding to marry to their ordained priesthoods (Canon Law) even though with the same faith.
2. Commanding her members to abstain from meat with all Fridays of the week, specially their so called holy week; ash Wednesday (40-days abstaining; not eating all foods made or having mixed of meat).
It is not a joke. It's real. Look at the Christian world, who's sponsoring the demons doctrines?
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