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16 The second beast forces all people—important and unimportant people, rich and poor people, free people and slaves—to be branded on their right hands or on their foreheads. 17 It does this so that no one may buy or sell unless he has the brand, which is the beast’s name or the number of its name. (Ref: Rev. 13:16 GW)
How we could figure it out, the branded on their right hands and on their foreheads?
Is there a visible or invisible religious signs symbolizing with the three unclean spirits that only their right hands and their forehead could do?
Can you figure it out?
Read: “In this situation wisdom is needed. Let the person who has insight figure out the number of the beast, because it is a human number.[a] The beast’s number is 666.” (Ref: 13:18 GW)
17 It does this so that no one may buy or sell unless he has the brand, which is the beast’s name or the number of its name. (Ref: Rev. 13:16 GW)
The Revelation 16-17 is another name and number of the beast compare to the number of the beast in verse 18.
The verses 16-17 is concerning of all level of people having the branded name and number with their right hands and their foreheads.
The verse 18, is the number of the beast herself, 666 is the number of a human/ person.
Is anybody out there has an idea or wisdom to figure it out?
Share it with us.
Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 26 2012,16:12) 16 The second beast forces all people—important and unimportant people, rich and poor people, free people and slaves—to be branded on their right hands or on their foreheads. 17 It does this so that no one may buy or sell unless he has the brand, which is the beast’s name or the number of its name. (Ref: Rev. 13:16 GW) How we could figure it out, the branded on their right hands and on their foreheads?
Is there a visible or invisible religious signs symbolizing with the three unclean spirits that only their right hands and their forehead could do?
Can you figure it out?
Read: “In this situation wisdom is needed. Let the person who has insight figure out the number of the beast, because it is a human number.[a] The beast’s number is 666.” (Ref: 13:18 GW)
Hi limjunus,I will tell you that that means.
1st Beast of Rev.12:3 is 'The Red Dragon' ……………… the (red) dragon ……………………..888
2nd Beast of Rev.13:1-3 is 'Antichrist spirit' ……………. (Antichrist) beast …………………….222
3rd Beast of Rev.13:11 is 'The False Prophet' ………….. the false prophet …………………….666[888=666-222] (See Isa 53:12)
“And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon
came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.” (Rev 16:19)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 26 2012,18:36) Hi limjunus, I will tell you that that means.
1st Beast of Rev.12:3 is 'The Red Dragon' ……………… the (red) dragon ……………………..888
2nd Beast of Rev.13:1-3 is 'Antichrist spirit' ……………. (Antichrist) beast …………………….222
3rd Beast of Rev.13:11 is 'The False Prophet' ………….. the false prophet …………………….666[888=666-222] (See Isa 53:12)
“And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon
came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.” (Rev 16:19)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi limjunus,It is about Lucifer(called 'Al-Lah' in the quran) and his world conquest,
now exposed as the eighth beast of Rev.19:12.The beast of Rev.19:12, and
The beast of Rev.17:3 and
The beast of Dan.7:11
are the same beast. (Link)The quran (666) is the (strange) fire mentioned in Rev 13:13…
“And he (the false prophet Muhammad) doeth great wonders,
so that he maketh fire come down from heaven
on the earth in the sight of men”God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Sep. 26 2012,16:12) 16 The second beast forces all people—important and unimportant people, rich and poor people, free people and slaves—to be branded on their right hands or on their foreheads. 17 It does this so that no one may buy or sell unless he has the brand, which is the beast’s name or the number of its name. (Ref: Rev. 13:16 GW) How we could figure it out, the branded on their right hands and on their foreheads?
Is there a visible or invisible religious signs symbolizing with the three unclean spirits that only their right hands and their forehead could do?
Can you figure it out?
Read: “In this situation wisdom is needed. Let the person who has insight figure out the number of the beast, because it is a human number.[a] The beast’s number is 666.” (Ref: 13:18 GW)
Rev.13:16.
—-receive a a mark –IN– THEIR RIGHT HAND OR –IN– THEIR FORE HEADS: not branded on.In the number is the code name of the false prophet.
Anyone that takes the number is in submission to him.
Anyone that refused the number is against him.
Therefore they must be put away, or killed.Some will have to have the number put IN the foreheads,because some can not use their arms because of deformities or lame,or no arms to put it IN.
wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 26 2012,19:40)
EDj.Tell me; Are you saying that ALL, SMALL and GREAT, RICH and POOR, FREE, and BOND, must accept the qur'an,or they can not buy or sell, or own a business, and do imports and exports?
Do you realy believe that all the nations of the world will be in subjection to the qur'an?(russia and china included).
Is there anyone out there that go along with Eds believe? Is Ed preaching according to scripture here?
WILL WE ALL BE FORCED TO TURN MUSLEMS?wakeup.
The micro chip(rfid)chip is the technology that will bring the populations under control.
This is being done now,today; on animals, children,and some grown ups, voluntarily,UNTILL THE F.PROPHET comes; and HE will make it LAW,for everyone to have one.Ed,you are diverting the attention from the truth.
You can cause harm to many brothers.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2012,20:15) EDj. Tell me; Are you saying that ALL, SMALL and GREAT, RICH and POOR, FREE, and BOND, must accept the qur'an,or they can not buy or sell, or own a business, and do imports and exports?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,That's exactly the way it is in the kingdom of the eighth beast.
“And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth,
and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.” (Rev 17:11)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2012,20:15) EDj. 1) Do you realy believe that all the nations of the world will be in subjection to the qur'an?(russia and china included).
2) Is there anyone out there that go along with Eds believe? (3)Is Ed preaching according to scripture here?
(4)WILL WE ALL BE FORCED TO TURN MUSLEMS?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) No
2) Those who know The Truth™
3) Why don't you make 'a poll' in the poll category if you really want to find out.
4 See my previous post.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2012,20:28) The micro chip(rfid)chip is the technology that will bring the populations under control.
This is being done now,today; on animals, children,and some grown ups, voluntarily,UNTILL THE F.PROPHET comes; and HE will make it LAW,for everyone to have one.Ed,you are diverting the attention from the truth.
You can cause harm to many brothers.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, (Link)Quite the contrary, The Truth™
of the bible's Prophecy's needs to be understood.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Sep. 26 2012,16:12) 16 The second beast forces all people—important and unimportant people, rich and poor people, free people and slaves—to be branded on their right hands or on their foreheads. 17 It does this so that no one may buy or sell unless he has the brand, which is the beast’s name or the number of its name. (Ref: Rev. 13:16 GW) How we could figure it out, the branded on their right hands and on their foreheads?
Is there a visible or invisible religious signs symbolizing with the three unclean spirits that only their right hands and their forehead could do?
Can you figure it out?
Read: “In this situation wisdom is needed. Let the person who has insight figure out the number of the beast, because it is a human number.[a] The beast’s number is 666.” (Ref: 13:18 GW)
Limjunus,The mark is physical.
The mark is solely for the purpose of physically identifying who has submitted to the false prophet enabling them to be permitted to buy & sell in the false prophets physical system.
That is commerce.
Commerce is the life blood of this physical world.
It enables nations/people to become strong & rich.
It enables people to buy food & water…food & water to live.We are physical…non believers are physical.
Our walk may be spiritual, but we are still physical until we are changed at the 2nd coming.
So whatever happens to us before that 2nd coming, will happen to our physical bodies.
Hence we are told not to fear those who can kill our physical bodies, but instead fear Him who can destroy both.Limjunus, are you saying that the mark is already here?
That the mark merely stands for our spiritual state of being? that is, who we are worshipping right now?
Meaning that the mark in our right hand merely symbolizes our works & the mark in our foreheads symbolizes who we worship?
Because if you are, this is a new age teaching that has infiltrated certain mainstream Christian religions & is slowly spreading like a virus.And it is ironic how this doctrine just so happens to be gaining traction in the Christian world just as the technology itself that can fulfill this prophecy is being perfected!!
Hmmm, discernment should tell you who is behind this scriptural attack of the very literal prophecy concerning the mark.
And mark my words, it is Literal mark not a metaphoric mark as this sneaky doctrine hopes to have us believe!!We have been expecting this false attack on the scriptures concerning the mark even before it began its resergence in the wider psyche of Christian thought.
We have speculated through the scriptures just which scriptures to expect them to attack & use against Christians.
This one is along the lines of what we were expecting and is grouped with a few more scriptures that we are sure will be the focus of their next attack using manipulated scriptures.
Yes, we've heard this one before.Do you know that governments have been hiring “Pastors” and inserting them into religious establishments to condition the people in preparation for the coming new world establishment?
How they are blurring certain scriptures?
Why?
Because they intend to release a physical technology to mark all the people with. Which means that a literal warning found in the bible must be attacked by these wicked men & made to appear metaphoric.
Thus their literal mark will then be accepted by a percentage of growing “Christian opinion” on this subject, spreading like a virus.
Is this important to achieve?
Of course it is!!!Do you know why?
Quote (Devolution @ Sep. 27 2012,09:08) Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 26 2012,16:12) 16 The second beast forces all people—important and unimportant people, rich and poor people, free people and slaves—to be branded on their right hands or on their foreheads. 17 It does this so that no one may buy or sell unless he has the brand, which is the beast’s name or the number of its name. (Ref: Rev. 13:16 GW) How we could figure it out, the branded on their right hands and on their foreheads?
Is there a visible or invisible religious signs symbolizing with the three unclean spirits that only their right hands and their forehead could do?
Can you figure it out?
Read: “In this situation wisdom is needed. Let the person who has insight figure out the number of the beast, because it is a human number.[a] The beast’s number is 666.” (Ref: 13:18 GW)
Limjunus,The mark is physical.
The mark is solely for the purpose of physically identifying who has submitted to the false prophet enabling them to be permitted to buy & sell in the false prophets physical system.
That is commerce.
Commerce is the life blood of this physical world.
It enables nations/people to become strong & rich.
It enables people to buy food & water…food & water to live.We are physical…non believers are physical.
Our walk may be spiritual, but we are still physical until we are changed at the 2nd coming.
So whatever happens to us before that 2nd coming, will happen to our physical bodies.
Hence we are told not to fear those who can kill our physical bodies, but instead fear Him who can destroy both.Limjunus, are you saying that the mark is already here?
That the mark merely stands for our spiritual state of being? that is, who we are worshipping right now?
Meaning that the mark in our right hand merely symbolizes our works & the mark in our foreheads symbolizes who we worship?
Because if you are, this is a new age teaching that has infiltrated certain mainstream Christian religions & is slowly spreading like a virus.And it is ironic how this doctrine just so happens to be gaining traction in the Christian world just as the technology itself that can fulfill this prophecy is being perfected!!
Hmmm, discernment should tell you who is behind this scriptural attack of the very literal prophecy concerning the mark.
And mark my words, it is Literal mark not a metaphoric mark as this sneaky doctrine hopes to have us believe!!We have been expecting this false attack on the scriptures concerning the mark even before it began its resergence in the wider psyche of Christian thought.
We have speculated through the scriptures just which scriptures to expect them to attack & use against Christians.
This one is along the lines of what we were expecting and is grouped with a few more scriptures that we are sure will be the focus of their next attack using manipulated scriptures.
Yes, we've heard this one before.Do you know that governments have been hiring “Pastors” and inserting them into religious establishments to condition the people in preparation for the coming new world establishment?
How they are blurring certain scriptures?
Why?
Because they intend to release a physical technology to mark all the people with. Which means that a literal warning found in the bible must be attacked by these wicked men & made to appear metaphoric.
Thus their literal mark will then be accepted by a percentage of growing “Christian opinion” on this subject, spreading like a virus.
Is this important to achieve?
Of course it is!!!Do you know why?
Good post Devo,What they don't realise is that by us refusing this physical mark,
which is required by all to buy and sell,
under this new system coming,
is a spiritual decision.Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 26 2012,20:37) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2012,20:15) EDj. 1) Do you realy believe that all the nations of the world will be in subjection to the qur'an?(russia and china included).
2) Is there anyone out there that go along with Eds believe? (3)Is Ed preaching according to scripture here?
(4)WILL WE ALL BE FORCED TO TURN MUSLEMS?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) No
2) Those who know The Truth™
3) Why don't you make 'a poll' in the poll category if you really want to find out.
4 See my previous post.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.You,again are against what the scriptures says.
The scriptures says: ALL.Plese anwswer the question:
1.Will russia and china be under the qur'an?
and will they accept mohamads teachings.yes/no?wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 26 2012,20:42) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2012,20:28) The micro chip(rfid)chip is the technology that will bring the populations under control.
This is being done now,today; on animals, children,and some grown ups, voluntarily,UNTILL THE F.PROPHET comes; and HE will make it LAW,for everyone to have one.Ed,you are diverting the attention from the truth.
You can cause harm to many brothers.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, (Link)Quite the contrary, The Truth™
of the bible's Prophecy's needs to be understood.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.Please answer:
Did king Constantine teach islam? y/n?
No of course not: so how can the ottoman empire come out of the roman empire?
This is the big twist to make your doctrine work.1. how can a muslem base empire come out of a christian base empire? What have the christian teachings got to do with mohamads teachings?
Can hindus teach budhism?wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 27 2012,13:05) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 26 2012,20:37) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2012,20:15) EDj. 1) Do you realy believe that all the nations of the world will be in subjection to the qur'an?(russia and china included).
2) Is there anyone out there that go along with Eds believe? (3)Is Ed preaching according to scripture here?
(4)WILL WE ALL BE FORCED TO TURN MUSLEMS?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) No
2) Those who know The Truth™
3) Why don't you make 'a poll' in the poll category if you really want to find out.
4 See my previous post.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.You,again are against what the scriptures says.
The scriptures says: ALL.Plese anwswer the question:
1.Will russia and china be under the qur'an?
and will they accept mohamads teachings.yes/no?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Is Jesus part of all? Are YOU part of all?
“All” is indicative of those under their control.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ Sep. 27 2012,14:03) EdJ. Please answer:
Did king Constantine teach islam? y/n?
No of course not: so how can the ottoman empire come out of the roman empire?
This is the big twist to make your doctrine work.1. how can a muslem base empire come out of a christian base empire? What have the christian teachings got to do with mohamads teachings?
Can hindus teach budhism?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, your questions here are convoluted.The Roman empire was the Sixth world Empire.
The Ottoman Empire was the Seventh Empire.
And Muhammadin-islam is the Eighth Empire.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Devolution @ Sep. 27 2012,09:08) Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 26 2012,16:12) 16 The second beast forces all people—important and unimportant people, rich and poor people, free people and slaves—to be branded on their right hands or on their foreheads. 17 It does this so that no one may buy or sell unless he has the brand, which is the beast’s name or the number of its name. (Ref: Rev. 13:16 GW) Is there a visible or invisible religious signs symbolizing with the three unclean spirits that only their right hands and their forehead could do?
Can you figure it out?
Read: “In this situation wisdom is needed. Let the person who has insight figure out the number of the beast, because it is a human number.[a] The beast’s number is 666.” (Ref: 13:18 GW)
Limjunus,The mark is physical.
The mark is solely for the purpose of physically identifying who has submitted to the false prophet enabling them to be permitted to buy & sell in the false prophets physical system.That is commerce.
Commerce is the life blood of this physical world.
It enables nations/people to become strong & rich.
It enables people to buy food & water…food & water to live.
Devo,Commercial literally is out of the line. Because everybody in this world were connected to the human system in the world of commerce. We are discussing the spiritual matters involving beliefs/ religious ideas.
The marks could be seen physically in the acts or gesture of the people with a direct relation to their religious beliefs.
and the issue is having a very strong connection with the beast and the name of the beast.
False doctrines and religious beliefs belong to the demons spirits.
Now, we need to figure it out very carefully in the light of the words of God.
It does this so that no one may buy or sell unless he has the brand, which is the beast’s name or the number of its name. (Ref: Rev. 13:17 GW)
It is not literally “commerce”. The statement is metaphorically spoken. We need to figure it out not through the commercial of the world literally but spiritually.
The “marks with their right hands and their foreheads” are not literally for business commercial as what you have think.
It is the beliefs that they could not trade with the other beliefs. Their people could not interchanges it with the other people with the marks of their right hands and with their foreheads. Except you leave their kingdom and find another but you could not bring their spiritual merchandise, the marks of the beast.
Concrete example: Do you agree to take their belief, the marks in the right hands and in the forehead with out joining them?
You could not buy anything from their religious merchandises without having their marks. You must be one of them or else no business to be done with you.
Got my point?
Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 27 2012,16:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 27 2012,14:03) EdJ. Please answer:
Did king Constantine teach islam? y/n?
No of course not: so how can the ottoman empire come out of the roman empire?
This is the big twist to make your doctrine work.1. how can a muslem base empire come out of a christian base empire? What have the christian teachings got to do with mohamads teachings?
Can hindus teach budhism?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, your questions here are convoluted.The Roman empire was the Sixth world Empire.
The Ottoman Empire was the Seventh Empire.
And Muhammadin-islam is the Eighth Empire.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.Here again, a big skip and a big twist,to make this doctrine work.Dont you know that the scriptures can not be broken?
Dan.ch.2:40–43.
1. The legs of the image is IRON.(roman).y/n?2. The feet of the image is also IRON,but mixed with clay;but the IRON is still in it.(roman).y/n?
3. The toes is also IRON,but mixed with clay,
but the IRON is still in it(roman).y/n?Dan.7:19.the dreadful beast with teeth of IRON and nails of BRASS.
IRON(roman): BRASS(greece). The two merging,becoming the one empire; the ROMAN EMPIRE.7:22. UNTILL THE ANCIENT OF DAYS CAME, AND JUDGEMENT WAS GIVEN TO THE SAINTS OF THE MOST HIGH. is this not the second coming?
VERSE 24. The 10 horns mentioned: just as rev.17:12.16.(a conglomeration of 10 kings,all in the same time period).not hundreds of years apart.
————————————————————–1. Where does the ottoman empire fit in with the IRON?
2. How many kings were ruling in this ottoman empire?
Is Saladin not ONE KING?
You must stay with scriptures: horns=kings.(period).
DONT START MIXING UP SYMBOLS.THE MUSLEM EMPIRE DOES NOT FIT IN WITH THE IRON.
SO DOES THE MONGOLIAN EMPIRE OR ANY OTHER EMPIRES.(the iron=roman).It is all ROMAN FROM THE LEGS TO THE VERY END.
The 6th is roman; the 7th(today) is roman; and the 8th(coming) is also roman.The last beast with the 10 horns is the END TIME ROMAN EMPIRE; and this is the empire that the f.proph.will rule. He will cause tribulations on this earth for only 3/half yrs. ONLY 3/HALF YRS.ONLY 3/HALF YRS.
Be strong all; for the son of perdition is coming soon.EXERCISE YOUR MINDS.
And only in the Lord will we find refuge.wakeup.
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