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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 21 2014,09:11) Hi WU,
cannot sin?
Have you not been reading my posts?
Hi Nick,1 Peter 4:8
Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.Wakeup is talking about the one who is born of God. Born of Love is being born of God. God is Love.
You cannot sin against your neighbor if you Love them. Well unless you are a liar and you dont truly love your neighbor as yourself. yet to be perfect we must Love the Lord above ourselfs and each other.
1 John 3
9No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.##scripture continues BY THIS we know if we are children of God##
1 John 3
10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.better translation
1 John 3:10
This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God's child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.There is no fear in perfect Love
1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.You can have the power to cast out demons and do many wonderful works but it is ONLY by Loving the Lord that you truly know him and BY this that the Lord knows you.
The Son is the expressed image of the Father Love
John 15:13
Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends.The flesh of my savior my Lord and my God declares his Love for all those who are willing to come to him. God had no greater Love. Now its up to us to accept that Love and give it back in return!!!
Lets raise up the Lord so he can draw all men to himself.
John 12:32
And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”Life in the Son and in his beautiful name
DanielHi 4t,
1 John 3
9No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.This must be taken in context with 1 Jn 2.1-the advocate for those who DO sin.
Also Jn13 1-15-the washing of the feet/forgivenessI believe it is an exhortation to keep our clothes clean rather than saying it is impossible to sin.
There is a difference between CAN not sin and WILL not sin.
We all CAN SIN.1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that
***Jesus is the Christ is born of God***: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is
***born of God*** sinneth not; but he that
***is begotten*** of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 21 2014,11:37) Hi 4t,
1 John 3
9No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.This must be taken in context with 1 Jn 2.1-the advocate for those who DO sin.
Also Jn13 1-15-the washing of the feet/forgivenessI believe it is an exhortation to keep our clothes clean rather than saying it is impossible to sin.
1 John 2:1
My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father–Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.But read 1 John 2:9-10 in the same context
It explains only those who live in love will not stumble. We are adopted Sons and only partake in the nature we are not the nature of perfect Love so we *CAN* stumble. Only in perfect Love we will not stumble
1 John 2
9Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sisterb is still in the darkness. 10Anyone who loves their brother and sisterc lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble.There is NOTHING in them to make them stumble….
We are called – before being born of God to live in the light. But man’s evils desires of pride and lust stop them from coming into the light least their deeds be exposed.To *many* people quote john 3:16 without realising THE Verdict,
It’s what in the heart that leads us into the light to be children of God. Even the demons believe…
John 3:19-21
This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.
But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.## Those who live by the truth come into the light so others can see it is by obeying the truth that God has written in our hearts – the law of Love which our conscious bears witness to the truth.
Sometimes Love requires discipline, true Fatherly Love is not always soft.
Hebrews 12:6
because the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son.“The question everyone needs to ask themselfs is where does Jesus fit into the commandments.
Do we love THE ***Lord*** our God with all our hearts soul and mind or as ourselfs and as our neighbor?
Do you Love Jesus with all your heart Soul and mind?
Life in the Son and in his name
DanielQuote (Wakeup @ Mar. 21 2014,15:11) There is a difference between CAN not sin and WILL not sin.
We all CAN SIN.1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that
***Jesus is the Christ is born of God***: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is
***born of God*** sinneth not; but he that
***is begotten*** of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.wakeup.
Amen, we can still Sin but God keeps us safe… BUT sometimes we are still to weak. Because we can still sin.1 John 5:16
If you see any brother or sister commit a sin that does not lead to death, you should pray and God will give them life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that you should pray about that.1 John 5:18
We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the One who was born of God keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot harm them.God does his best with the free will he give us BUT we must listen to the law of Love he has engraved in our hearts.
Blessings in man Jesus the messiah, who is the Lord of Glory, who took flesh to be the gate between the heavens he created with his own hands. What a Lord *is* The Lord of Lords, that's my king! Indeed the Fathers testament of his Glory is beyond understanding and worthy of Glory, praise, honor, blessings riches and especially our Love.
DanielQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 21 2014,11:01) Hi T4,
Exactly
You MUST be born again-of water and the Spirit.
Hi Nick.Where does it say that?
wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 22 2014,03:40) Hi WU,
Not a quote but derived from Jn 3
Nick.Was the subject discussed about born again
or baptism?wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 22 2014,09:07) Hi WU,
They are interlinked.
Water is one of the witnesses we need.-[1jn5]
Nick.Born of water means born out of mothers womb.(water).
Jesus was born of water;meaning He was human.
You need to be human to to be born again.
Spirits can not be born again.If you are born of the flesh you are flesh.(human).
If you are born of the spirit you are spirit.
We are still born of the flesh,untill born of mother Zions womb. Born once more;born again.
Mother Zion will give birth to all her spirit children.Jesus was not born again at jordan.He did not need repentance.He did not need baptism.
He was born again at His resurrection.The word *water*; created misinterpretations of this chapter.
wakeup.
Hi WU,
Where is scripture do you find the waters of childbirth spoken of this way?
They are assuredly not clean or pure
heb 10.22To fulfill all righteousness Jesus was baptised in water
Do we have less of a need?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 22 2014,12:11) Hi WU,
Where is scripture do you find the waters of childbirth spoken of this way?
They are assuredly not clean or pure
heb 10.22To fulfill all righteousness Jesus was baptised in water
Do we have less of a need?
Nick.Jesus allowed john to baptise Him to follow the law.
Hebrews 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, **and our bodies washed with pure water**
Our *bodies* with pure water.
It's a symbol of washing the heart and soul.
Water it self does not clean the hearts,just the body.
We are all born out of water,even the gentiles.
Mothers water is clean for the baby to grow in.
Born of water is not baptism.You must be born again in spirit to enter the kingdom.
Flesh and blood can not enter the kingdom.
Jesus was born again before he entered heaven.Be baptised by the Holy Spirit ,by eating Jesus flesh.
Who ever called upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.wakeup.
Hi WU,
Are we allowed to make symbolic what is written?Acts is not symbolic is it?
Rom 10 was written to the saved not the unsaved-see Rom ch1
Hi WU,
Are we able to rationalise scripture and not need supporting scriptures?In the mouth of 2 or three witnesses..
So are animals born of water too?
HI WU,
Did anyone in acts NOT submit to water baptism upon conversion?
Has anything changed? Is there a new gospel?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 22 2014,12:22) Hi WU,
Being born of water means HUMAN?
What of animals??
Nick.Jesus is not speaking of animals.
They are born of water too,that makes them flesh too.wakeup.
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