Reconciled or still needing a mediator

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 20 2010,05:43)

Hi BD, Why would we need to know? True religion is giving to widows and orphans. Your pious attempts to reach God and placate Him have no effect.[Jn3.36]

Wait Nick,

You just told me that being Pious was TRUE RELIGION

What was their religion

[942767]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 15 2010,13:59)

Quote (942767 @ May 15 2010,13:56) Quote (bodhitharta @ May 15 2010,12:53) Quote (942767 @ May 15 2010,12:39) BD: You ask: Quote Is the breath of God spiritual and belonging to God?  The answer to your question is, yes. Then you are alive by the breath of God and that breath of God is in you and keeps you alive. You are truly made of the breath of God Hi BD: What did Jesus mean when he said: “man shall not live by bread alone but by every Word that proceedeth from the mouth of God”? Love in Christ, Marty We live by the power and spirit of God

Hi BD:

Is there such a thing as a resurrection from the dead?

[942767]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 15 2010,13:59)

Quote (942767 @ May 15 2010,13:56) Quote (bodhitharta @ May 15 2010,12:53) Quote (942767 @ May 15 2010,12:39) BD: You ask: Quote Is the breath of God spiritual and belonging to God?  The answer to your question is, yes. Then you are alive by the breath of God and that breath of God is in you and keeps you alive. You are truly made of the breath of God Hi BD: What did Jesus mean when he said: “man shall not live by bread alone but by every Word that proceedeth from the mouth of God”? Love in Christ, Marty We live by the power and spirit of God

Hi BD:

Is there such a thing as a resurrection from the dead?

[karmarie]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 16 2010,14:24)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 16 2010,13:51) Hi BD, You are not a Jew and the temple curtain is torn. So how could this help your bid for righteousness? Abraham was not a Jew either so your logic is flawed not even Jacob/Israel was a Jew. Since these not being Jews tell me what was their religion?

If you belong to Christ you are Abrahams seed and heirs according to the promise…Galatians 3:29

Abraham, your father, was glad that he might see my day; and he saw, and did rejoice; Jonh 8;56

Hebrews 11:13; All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.

Matthew 13:17; “For truly I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.

“Surely He hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows:… He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities…the LORD hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all” (Isaiah 53:4-6).

“For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly… and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit…” (Romans 2:28-29).

“And if ye be Christ's, then are ye (also) Abraham's seed…”

[bodhitharta]

Quote (942767 @ May 20 2010,08:57)

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 15 2010,13:59) Quote (942767 @ May 15 2010,13:56) Quote (bodhitharta @ May 15 2010,12:53) Quote (942767 @ May 15 2010,12:39) BD: You ask: Quote Is the breath of God spiritual and belonging to God?  The answer to your question is, yes. Then you are alive by the breath of God and that breath of God is in you and keeps you alive. You are truly made of the breath of God Hi BD: What did Jesus mean when he said: “man shall not live by bread alone but by every Word that proceedeth from the mouth of God”? Love in Christ, Marty We live by the power and spirit of God Hi BD: Is there such a thing as a resurrection from the dead?

Yes

[bodhitharta]

Quote (karmarie @ May 20 2010,10:05)

Karmarie,

What was the religion of Abraham, Noah, Jacob or Adam?

Your foolishness increases daily so tell me what their religion was and I will gladly be that

[karmarie]

If no-one has ever seen God… who was it who appeared to these people?

http://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-b….stament

I have a question. Can you point out some of the Old Testament “appearances” of Jesus Christ? Or am I misunderstanding something?

A. Be glad to. Generally speaking when you see the phrase “the angel of the Lord” (rather than “an angel of the Lord”) accompanied by a physical presence, you’re seeing an Old Testament appearance of Jesus. There are really too many to list here, but if you go to http://www.biblegateway.com, select keyword search from the left hand menu, and type “the angel of the Lord” into the search box, you’ll find several pages of references. As you read them, you’ll see that many are Old Testament appearances of Jesus Christ. You’ll know by the fact that He’s usually either accepting worship, forgiving sin, executing judgment, or speaking prophecy in these appearances.

So they were followers of Gods Word who was then in the last days manifested in the flesh as Jesus and dwelt among us.

So who did they follow who did they speak to and what were they?

[karmarie]

Psalm 45:6-7 Your throne, O God, is forever and ever.
The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of uprightness;
you have loved righteousness and hated wickedness.
Therefore God, your God, has anointed you
with the oil of gladness beyond your companions;

Hebrews 1:8-9 But of the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever,
the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has anointed you
with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.”

[942767]

Hi BD:

I asked the question: Is there such a thing as the resurrection from the dead?, to which you say, “yes”, and so I ask, what will determine if someone is saved or not?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (942767 @ May 20 2010,13:00)

Hi BD: I asked the question:  Is there such a thing as the resurrection from the dead?, to which you say, “yes”, and so I ask, what will determine if someone is saved or not?

God will determine. Even Jesus agrees that simply calling on him and believing in him will not bring you salvation even if you do miracles in his name.

[942767]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 21 2010,06:52)

Quote (942767 @ May 20 2010,13:00) Hi BD: I asked the question:  Is there such a thing as the resurrection from the dead?, to which you say, “yes”, and so I ask, what will determine if someone is saved or not? God will determine. Even Jesus agrees that simply calling on him and believing in him will not bring you salvation even if you do miracles in his name.

True, God has already determined when he said:

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John 3:16-19 (King James Version) 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

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John 14 1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 4And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. 5Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

End of my conversation with you. You have been shown the truth by me which is my responsibility because I love you and want God's very best for you and your family. My prayer is that God will do every thing within His power to show you that what I have shown you is the truth.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[bodhitharta]

You have simply agreed with me that it is God who has determined and will determine who has salvation

[bodhitharta]

Quote (942767 @ May 21 2010,08:33)

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 21 2010,06:52) Quote (942767 @ May 20 2010,13:00) Hi BD: I asked the question:  Is there such a thing as the resurrection from the dead?, to which you say, “yes”, and so I ask, what will determine if someone is saved or not? God will determine. Even Jesus agrees that simply calling on him and believing in him will not bring you salvation even if you do miracles in his name. True, God has already determined when he said: Quote John 3:16-19 (King James Version) 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Quote John 14 1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 4And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. 5Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. End of my conversation with you.  You have been shown the truth by me which is my responsibility because I love you and want God's very best for you and your family.  My prayer is that God will do every thing within His power to show you that what I have shown you is the truth. Love in Christ, Marty

I must also add that your response is acceptable but slightly uninformed:

For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Romans 11:31-33

[942767]

You quote the following scripture but you do not understand what it means:

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For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. Romans 11:31-33

It is because all were at some point in unbelief that the gospel is preached to every individual. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.

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Romans 10:13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 18But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world. 19But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you. 20But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me. 21But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people

And so, I have shared the gospel which is the good news that God has given us His Only Begotten Son in order that our sins might be forgiven and that we be reconciled to him, and then to learn obedience through the example of the life of Jesus. The gospel is “good news” to those who will accept it.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[bodhitharta]

Quote (942767 @ May 22 2010,14:38)

You quote the following scripture but you do not understand what it means: Quote For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. Romans 11:31-33 It is because all were at some point in unbelief that the gospel is preached to every individual.  Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Quote Romans 10:13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 18But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world. 19But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you. 20But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me. 21But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people And so, I have shared the gospel which is the good news that God has given us His Only Begotten Son in order that our sins might be forgiven and that we be reconciled to him, and then to learn obedience through the example of the life of Jesus.  The gospel is “good news” to those who will accept it. Love in Christ, Marty

I have not discredited the Gospel in the least.

Why do you think that believing in Jesus means to discredit all else?

Where is that written in the scriptures?

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Hi BD:

You say:

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I have not discredited the Gospel in the least. Why do you think that believing in Jesus means to discredit all else? Where is that written in the scriptures?

You may believe in Jesus, but you have not believed the gospel. You have not believed God's testimony regarding His Only Begotten Son.

You have not believed Jesus is the propitiation for the sins of humanity, and that he is the only way that any man be reconciled to God.

And so, what is the gospel (the good news) concerning Jesus as it relates to you?

Love in Christ,
Marty

[bodhitharta]

Quote (942767 @ May 25 2010,14:27)

Hi BD: You say: Quote I have not discredited the Gospel in the least. Why do you think that believing in Jesus means to discredit all else? Where is that written in the scriptures? You may believe in Jesus, but you have not believed the gospel.  You have not believed God's testimony regarding His Only Begotten Son. You have not believed Jesus is the propitiation for the sins of humanity, and that he is the only way that any man be reconciled to God. And so, what is the gospel (the good news) concerning Jesus as it relates to you? Love in Christ, Marty

Jesus preached the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, you must be mistaken

[bodhitharta]

When is blood precious?

But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
Genesis 9:3-5

The blood of the living not the blood of the dead

What profit is there in my blood, when I go down to the pit? Shall the dust praise thee? shall it declare thy truth?
Psalm 30:8-10

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 22 2010,15:48)

I have not discredited the Gospel in the least.

Hi BD,

How can you say that when the 'book of fraud'(Click here) rejects the “Gospel” outright?

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2010,23:15)

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 22 2010,15:48) I have not discredited the Gospel in the least. Hi BD, How can you say that when the 'book of fraud'(Click here) rejects the “Gospel” outright? Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

The Gospel of the Kigdom of Heaven is clearly the Gospel preached by Jesus himself and that is in the Quran.

If you are talking about another gospel than the one Jesus preached than let me know what that other gospel is

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