Reconciled or still needing a mediator

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,15:40)

Hi BD, God lives in his sons. No poetry

If God doesn't live in all by what Spirit of Life do they live?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Man and the animals live by their spirits.[Ecc 2-3, 12]
None are born with the Spirit of God.
You must be reborn from above.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,15:55)

Hi BD, Man and the animals live by their spirits.[Ecc 2-3, 12] None are born with the Spirit of God. You must be reborn from above.

And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Genesis 6:2-4

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Indeed God's Spirit lost patience with men and their lifespan was shortened from a day.
Our God has eternal life and He gives it to all those who share His living Spirit
Man had never eaten from the tree of life so as to live forever.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,16:16)

Hi BD, Indeed God's Spirit lost patience with men and their lifespan was shortened from a day. Our God has eternal life and He gives it to all those who share His living Spirit Man had never eaten from the tree of life so as to live forever.

My point was that All men already have the Spirit of God within them because it is how they are alive.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Your point is invalid.
God breathed into Adam and he became a living soul.

[Stu]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,10:38)

Quote (Stu @ May 13 2010,19:55) Quote (bodhitharta @ May 13 2010,13:23) The position here is that The Muslim has submitted to God and through that submission is reconciled whereas those who say they need a mediator such as Jesus have not fulfilled the purpose they have said Jesus came for which is reconciliation. To reconcile is to do away with the mediator and be one. So why does a teacher naming a class toy bear “Mohammad” cause an international incident with threats of violence from muslims, if the only thing that matters is the hotline to their Imaginary Friend? Actually did Mo have any hotline himself?  It was via the intermediate agency of Gabriel wasn't it? Stuart STU, You are correct! No one should be getting upset with such things because the purpose of not picturing Muhammad is not because he should be worshiped but because he shouldn't worshiped. Those Muslims are treating Muhammad like Christians treat Jesus and both are wrong because all Praise is due to ALLAH Alone. These honored messengers are just that HONORED and while some people are disrespectful towards those who are due much Honor those who Honor them need not be insulted for what others think as their rejection is of GOD not the messengers.

So those upset muslims (there's an understatement!) aren't doing islam properly?

Stuart

[942767]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,17:13)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,16:16) Hi BD, Indeed God's Spirit lost patience with men and their lifespan was shortened from a day. Our God has eternal life and He gives it to all those who share His living Spirit Man had never eaten from the tree of life so as to live forever. My point was that All men already have the Spirit of God within them because it is how they are alive.

Hi BD:

That statement is not true. The life of the flesh is in the blood, but Jesus when tempted by the devil to turn the stones into bread speaking to him said: “it is written, thou shalt not live by bread alone, but by every Word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Except a man is born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,17:22)

Hi BD, Your point is invalid. God breathed into Adam and he became a living soul.

So the BREATH of GOD is not God's Spirit? If not why did God say that it was.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Stu @ May 14 2010,19:15)

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,10:38) Quote (Stu @ May 13 2010,19:55) Quote (bodhitharta @ May 13 2010,13:23) The position here is that The Muslim has submitted to God and through that submission is reconciled whereas those who say they need a mediator such as Jesus have not fulfilled the purpose they have said Jesus came for which is reconciliation. To reconcile is to do away with the mediator and be one. So why does a teacher naming a class toy bear “Mohammad” cause an international incident with threats of violence from muslims, if the only thing that matters is the hotline to their Imaginary Friend? Actually did Mo have any hotline himself?  It was via the intermediate agency of Gabriel wasn't it? Stuart STU, You are correct! No one should be getting upset with such things because the purpose of not picturing Muhammad is not because he should be worshiped but because he shouldn't worshiped. Those Muslims are treating Muhammad like Christians treat Jesus and both are wrong because all Praise is due to ALLAH Alone. These honored messengers are just that HONORED and while some people are disrespectful towards those who are due much Honor those who Honor them need not be insulted for what others think as their rejection is of GOD not the messengers. So those upset muslims (there's an understatement!) aren't doing islam properly? Stuart

Unfortunately many people of all cultures and beliefs are not disinterested in being upset about something. Even many atheists feel compelled often to profane another's belief system for really no valid reason.

However keep in mind what anyone sees in the press is an extreme minority position i.e. whatever makes good and profitable news the flipside is the reality.

9% unemployment is 91% employment

a random killing at a location is random peace everywhere surrounding that location

rising prices usually means less waste

What we should not say about Muhammad we shouldn't say about Dawkins you see my point?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (942767 @ May 14 2010,19:20)

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,17:13) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,16:16) Hi BD, Indeed God's Spirit lost patience with men and their lifespan was shortened from a day. Our God has eternal life and He gives it to all those who share His living Spirit Man had never eaten from the tree of life so as to live forever. My point was that All men already have the Spirit of God within them because it is how they are alive. Hi BD: That statement is not true.  The life of the flesh is in the blood, but Jesus when tempted by the devil to turn the stones into bread speaking to him said: “it is written, thou shalt not live by bread alone, but by every Word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Except a man is born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation,
Numbers 27:15-17

And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
2 Corinthians 6:15-17

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 1:26-28

[942767]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 15 2010,03:01)

Quote (942767 @ May 14 2010,19:20) Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,17:13) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,16:16) Hi BD, Indeed God's Spirit lost patience with men and their lifespan was shortened from a day. Our God has eternal life and He gives it to all those who share His living Spirit Man had never eaten from the tree of life so as to live forever. My point was that All men already have the Spirit of God within them because it is how they are alive. Hi BD: That statement is not true.  The life of the flesh is in the blood, but Jesus when tempted by the devil to turn the stones into bread speaking to him said: “it is written, thou shalt not live by bread alone, but by every Word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Except a man is born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation, Numbers 27:15-17 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 2 Corinthians 6:15-17 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Genesis 1:26-28

Hi BD:

For a man's body to be the temple of the living God a man must be born again.  His sins must be washed away by the Blood of the precious lamb of God.

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Romans 8:8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you

The above scriptures state that if any man does not have the spirit of Christ, then you do not have the Spirit of God dwelling within.

Yes, God made man in his own image.  The first man Adam was made a living soul, like God in that he was a living person, with a mind, a will, and emotions.  The last man Adam was made a life-giving spirit, like God in that he has become a spirit of love through obedience to the Word of God.

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1 Co 15:45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[bodhitharta]

Quote (942767 @ May 15 2010,09:17)

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 15 2010,03:01) Quote (942767 @ May 14 2010,19:20) Quote (bodhitharta @ May 14 2010,17:13) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,16:16) Hi BD, Indeed God's Spirit lost patience with men and their lifespan was shortened from a day. Our God has eternal life and He gives it to all those who share His living Spirit Man had never eaten from the tree of life so as to live forever. My point was that All men already have the Spirit of God within them because it is how they are alive. Hi BD: That statement is not true.  The life of the flesh is in the blood, but Jesus when tempted by the devil to turn the stones into bread speaking to him said: “it is written, thou shalt not live by bread alone, but by every Word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Except a man is born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation, Numbers 27:15-17 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 2 Corinthians 6:15-17 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Genesis 1:26-28 Hi BD: For a man's body to be the temple of the living God a man must be born again.  His sins must be washed away by the Blood of the precious lamb of God. Quote Romans 8:8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you The above scriptures state that if any man does not have the spirit of Christ, then you do not have the Spirit of God dwelling within. Yes, God made man in his own image.  The first man Adam was made a living soul, like God in that he was a living person, with a mind, a will, and emotions.  The last man Adam was made a life-giving spirit, like God in that he has become a spirit of love through obedience to the Word of God. Quote 1 Co 15:45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven. Love in Christ, Marty

Is the breath of God spiritual and belonging to God?

[karmarie]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 15 2010,10:33)

Is the breath of God spiritual and belonging to God?

His spirit goeth forth, he returneth to his earth, In that day have his thoughts perished…Psalm 146:4

Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it…Ecclesiastes 12:7

Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away;..1 Corinthians 2:6

And thou hast said unto them, Thus said Jehovah of Hosts, turn back unto Me, An affirmation of Jehovah of Hosts, And I turn back unto you, said Jehovah of Hosts…Zechariah 1:3

[942767]

BD:

You ask:

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Is the breath of God spiritual and belonging to God?

The answer to your question is, yes.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (942767 @ May 15 2010,12:39)

BD: You ask: Quote Is the breath of God spiritual and belonging to God?  The answer to your question is, yes.

Then you are alive by the breath of God and that breath of God is in you and keeps you alive. You are truly made of the breath of God

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
The rope breaks and the bucket falls to the bottom of the well[Ecc12] so come to Jesus now for eternal life[Jn7]

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2010,13:26)

Hi BD, The rope breaks and the bucket falls to the bottom of the well[Ecc12] so come to Jesus now for eternal life[Jn7]

Is the Roman Catholic 73 book Bible the word of God or is the 66 book bible of the protestants the word of God?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Find the son and find life. Eternal life is in the Son. Pass over from death to life.
The breath of God will soon be withdrawn and then the judgement

[942767]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 15 2010,12:53)

Quote (942767 @ May 15 2010,12:39) BD: You ask: Quote Is the breath of God spiritual and belonging to God?  The answer to your question is, yes. Then you are alive by the breath of God and that breath of God is in you and keeps you alive. You are truly made of the breath of God

Hi BD:

What did Jesus mean when he said: “man shall not live by bread alone but by every Word that proceedeth from the mouth of God”?

Love in Christ,
Marty

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