Question to the Trinitarians

[NickHassan]

Hi charity,
Christ is the Son of God before he partook of flesh through Mary and the Spirit.

[charity]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2007,21:11)

Hi charity, Christ is the Son of God before he partook of flesh through Mary and the Spirit.

Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Isa 55:8 ¶ For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

Jer 3:18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your *fathers.

[charity]

Isa 53:10 ¶ Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the *glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Jer 3:18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your *fathers.

Rev 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

[charity]

We are Not the fathers?

But their children

All the souls created were cursed to the dust via Adam

Do you consider that your soul did not see death via this curse?

If so you have no second death to consume

Take part in the first resurrection
Psa 89:48 What man [is he that] liveth, and shall not see death? shall he deliver his soul from the hand of the grave? Selah.
Psa 89:49 Lord, where [are] thy former lovingkindnesses, [which] thou swarest unto David in thy truth?

Hbr 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
Hbr 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not *be made perfect.#

Forced false trinitys shall not perfect us; the fathers must be consisdered as a part: they without us should not *be made perfect

Rev 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a *new name written*, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth [it].
Rev 2:18 ¶ And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet [are] like fine brass;

and in the stone a *new name written*, which no man knoweth
Luk 20:17 And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?
Luk 20:18 Whosoever shall fall upon that stone shall be broken; but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?
Psa 89:39 Thou hast made void the covenant of thy servant: thou hast profaned his crown [by casting it] to the ground.
Psa 89:44 Thou hast made his glory to cease, and cast his throne down to the ground.
Psa 89:45 The days of his youth hast thou shortened: thou hast covered him with shame. Selah.

[charity]

You may roll around in cow paddies all your life forming trinities

But this is how Jesus prolonged his days; and how we are to do after him
Isa 53:10 ¶ Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

REIGN with christ
Ecc 4:14 * For out of prison he cometh to reign*; whereas also [he that is] born in his kingdom becometh poor.
Ecc 4:15 I considered all the living which walk under the sun, with the *second child that shall stand up in his stead.*
Ecc 4:16 [There is] no end of all the people, [even] of all that have been before them: they also that come after shall not rejoice in him. Surely this also [is] vanity and vexation of spirit.

They without us should not be made perfect.
Hbr 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

The Fatherless shall shame the seed in which they now walk the earth in the stead of by…
Psa 89:44 Thou hast made his glory to cease, and cast his throne down to the ground.
Psa 89:45 The days of his youth hast thou shortened: thou hast covered him with shame. Selah.

Cast that crown to ground and perfecting is lost days are shortened shall not be prolonged
Hbr 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

[NickHassan]

Hi charity,
The Fathers of faith must be disgusted what has become of the simple clear message they brought from God. Many could not grasp it because of the veil resulting from their disbelief.

But the message of Jesus is clear and simple building on their truth and we should have no excuses. But instead men have trampled truth into the ground and manufactured their own gospel demanding it be accepted as truth and their success has been nothing short of staggering.

Speculations and various false myths abound and none care for scripture. Again blindness is the issue and men cannot see the kingdom till they have obeyed Christ and been reborn of water and the Spirit.

[charity]

Hi Nick

Ecc 3:19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all [is] vanity.
Ecc 3:20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
Ecc 3:21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

Twice dead in our feasts of charity; chained in everlasting darkness
Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

Jhn 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

BeastsTo do wickedly for a time; resurrected to damnation judgement is now
Jhn 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

[Cult Buster]

There are Three separate Beings, each God and equal with one another. Though they hold different offices, they are nevertherless each God.

Three Divine beings within the Godhead with three different offices they choose to perform,

H2O can exist in three different realities, yet remain H2)
•Ice
•Liquid
•or Steam

Each Person of the Godhead can choose a different office, yet remain God.

Mat 28:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Isaiah 6:3  says, “And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

” Did you catch that?  That's one “holy” for each person of the Godhead!

Rev 4:8  And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

All praise to God the Father… God the Son Jesus Christ… and God the Holy Spirit! ALL Three merit perfect praise. Holy, Holy, Holy! If there is only one God they would not have repeated the worshipful praise three times.

Holy! Holy! Holy!  

[NickHassan]

Hi cb,
Extraordinary.
But is it of faith?
Not in the bible so it remains your fanciful idea.

Whatever is not of faith is of sin.

[Not3in1]

Paul said that for US there is one God, the Father…..

When Thomas called out, “….and my God [supposedly referring to Jesus].” Does this mean that Thomas thought Jesus was the Father?

[Not3in1]

Quote (Cult Buster @ Feb. 09 2007,23:31)

If there is only one God they would not have repeated the worshipful praise three times.

IF there is only One God?

CB, you must be a Trinitarian of a different kind? No Trinitarian I know would openly admit to serving 3 Gods?

[Not3in1]

Please see my “question” on the bottom of page 37. Thank you.

[942767]

Quote (Cult Buster @ Feb. 09 2007,23:31)

There are Three separate Beings, each God and equal with one another. Though they hold different offices, they are nevertherless each God. Three Divine beings within the Godhead with three different offices they choose to perform, H2O can exist in three different realities, yet remain H2) •Ice •Liquid •or Steam Each Person of the Godhead can choose a different office, yet remain God. Mat 28:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Isaiah 6:3  says, “And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory. ” Did you catch that?  That's one “holy” for each person of the Godhead! Rev 4:8  And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. All praise to God the Father… God the Son Jesus Christ… and God the Holy Spirit! ALL Three merit perfect praise. Holy, Holy, Holy! If there is only one God they would not have repeated the worshipful praise three times. Holy! Holy! Holy!

Hi CB:

And so, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit is each God but each holds a different office in the Godhead?

Do they hold a meeting among themselves to see what gets done or how does that work?

[NickHassan]

Hi 94.
CB is not a true trinitarian because be accepts three gods or deities.
The delusions build on this strange foundation.

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